All the pressure on Djokovic

wang07 said:
Djokovic is the outright favourite for 3 of the 4 slams, I'd say that alone puts him in a way more comfortable position. While if Nadal slips here it may just be game over for him. As always, everyone is expecting him to win, it's the slam record that adds another layer of immense pressure. Let's see how he deals with that, he's never been in a situation like this before.
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USO? Nadal 4-3 Djokovic please explain
 
NoleFam said:
It's not a must win for Djokovic. Only one of his Slams came here. He won 17 others elsewhere. This Slam would be a bonus for him because he has others Slams where he is not only a favorite over Nadal but the rest of the field. If Rafa loses here, the disadvantaged one would be him because he may not win another Slam until the next RG. He is not a lock for USO especially if he has to go through Djokovic, Medvedev, Tsitsipas, or Zverev, he hasn't won the other two in a very long time.
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Djokovic at 34 is not a lock anywhere. Neither is Nadal. Tomorrow is not the final. Zverev or Tsitispas win this event it almost certainly ends 20-20-18.
Once one next gen wins one thats it. Snowball effect.
 
Beckerserve said:
Tomorrow a free hit for Nadal. He is leader of Slams with Federer and GOAT it seems in locker room now judging by player comments.
This is where being on 20 Majors is a big advantage. If Nadal loses and Djokovic wins the event he is still one ahead.
If Djokovic does not win the event then the result is meaningless.
For Djokovic he has to win. Last chance saloon. If Rafa gets 21 Majors game over.
Rafa should be ultra relaxed tomorrow. Semi final also a massive advantage for Nadal as well. If it goes over 4 hours Djokovic will be a sitting duck in the final anyway.
All the pressure on Djokovic
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You sure about all the pressure on Djokovic? :D
 
If Nadal fails to win this tournament I don't see him winning another slam. He's declining visibly on a semi-annual basis at this point (and at a much faster rate than Djokovic) and the rate of decline is only going to increase from here on out especially on HC and grass where he's already looking pretty shaky. Meanwhile I can't see Djokovic failing to win another couple. So yeah, if Nadal has aspirations of ending his career as the outright leader in the slam race I'd say that this is verging on a must win for him in my personal opinion.
 
Beckerserve said:
Djokovic at 34 is not a lock anywhere. Neither is Nadal. Tomorrow is not the final. Zverev or Tsitispas win this event it almost certainly ends 20-20-18.
Once one next gen wins one thats it. Snowball effect.
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I didn't say Djokovic was a lock but he definitely would be favorite at those Slams. Even if Nadal loses and Djokovic loses the final, it's still Nadal at a more disadvantage .
 
MichaelNadal said:
Nadal is going to shock y'all winning Wimby or the USO.
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If he gets a great draw it is possible, especially at the USO. However, the surface has changed to the one they used in Miami where Nadal never won so it's gonna be more challenging for him than decoturf.
 
Mivic said:
If Nadal fails to win this tournament I don't see him winning another slam. He's declining visibly on a semi-annual basis at this point (and at a much faster rate than Djokovic) and the rate of decline is only going to increase from here on out especially on HC and grass where he's already looking pretty shaky. Meanwhile I can't see Djokovic failing to win another couple. So yeah, if Nadal has aspirations of ending his career as the outright leader in the slam race I'd say that this is verging on a must win for him in my personal opinion.
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brilliant post, well done, every part of it is accurate;)
 
NoleFam said:
If he gets a great draw it is possible, especially at the USO. However, the surface has changed to the one they used in Miami where Nadal never won so it's gonna be more challenging for him than decoturf.
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And stop acting like he needs a great draw lol. You'd think TTW posters could beat Nadal on HC from how y'all talk.

StrongRule said:
Not enough overconfidence, dude. You need to predict Nadal to win 4 slams in a row now.
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I always predict what he won't do, the same way you do, then he goes out and does it.
 
MichaelNadal said:
And stop acting like he needs a great draw lol. You'd think TTW posters could beat Nadal on HC from how y'all talk.



I always predict what he won't do, the same way you do, then he goes out and does it.
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He does need a great draw. Lol. Fortunately for him, he got great draws at the USO. Didn't have to face Federer or Djokovic for his last two, two players he hasn't beaten on hardcourt in years.
 
NoleFam said:
If he gets a great draw it is possible, especially at the USO. However, the surface has changed to the one they used in Miami where Nadal never won so it's gonna be more challenging for him than decoturf.
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he won't win another slam outside clay unfortunately, doesn't matter even what draw it will be, unfortunately for nadal fans, told this last year, telling it once again:D
 
I think its pressure for both of them equally. Nadal knows he can beat Novak on clay due to their recent matchups on the surface. The pressure for Nadal is that he needs to beat the world #1 and possibly his biggest rival to have a chance at history. For Novak the pressure is beating an in form Nadal on his best surface and knowing he's lost very convincingly at the last FO vs him. I expect both guys to be nervous to start and maybe trade a couple breaks in the first set. Once the match gets into the 6th game of the set, I would think they will both be into the match and focused a lot more.
 
alexio said:
he won't win another slam outside clay unfortunately, doesn't matter even what draw it will be, unfortunately for nadal fans, told this last year, telling it once again:D
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If he does it, it will have to be there this year. It's gonna be hard to imagine him doing it after that. The field is getting more consistent in these Slams and closing the gap.
 
Beckerserve said:
Tomorrow a free hit for Nadal. He is leader of Slams with Federer and GOAT it seems in locker room now judging by player comments.
This is where being on 20 Majors is a big advantage. If Nadal loses and Djokovic wins the event he is still one ahead.
If Djokovic does not win the event then the result is meaningless.
For Djokovic he has to win. Last chance saloon. If Rafa gets 21 Majors game over.
Rafa should be ultra relaxed tomorrow. Semi final also a massive advantage for Nadal as well. If it goes over 4 hours Djokovic will be a sitting duck in the final anyway.
All the pressure on Djokovic
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Are you relaxed ;) cause I can see your heart pounding on my screen. stop it
 
Beckerserve said:
USO? Nadal 4-3 Djokovic please explain
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I don't think so. I mean he would have some chance at winning there if he could avoid Djokovic, but it's still quite unlikely. Also, peaking for RG seems to take more and more out of Rafa recently, who knows if he can even compete at the end of the year.

Beckerserve said:
Djokovic at 34 is not a lock anywhere. Neither is Nadal. Tomorrow is not the final. Zverev or Tsitispas win this event it almost certainly ends 20-20-18.
Once one next gen wins one thats it. Snowball effect.
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Yeah, according to you Tsitsipas winning RG would automatically make the next gen players serious contenders for Wimbledon somehow lol. How exactly again? They have been useless on grass for many years and shown zero progress. Flawed logic.
 
Beckerserve said:
Tomorrow a free hit for Nadal. He is leader of Slams with Federer and GOAT it seems in locker room now judging by player comments.
This is where being on 20 Majors is a big advantage. If Nadal loses and Djokovic wins the event he is still one ahead.
If Djokovic does not win the event then the result is meaningless.
For Djokovic he has to win. Last chance saloon. If Rafa gets 21 Majors game over.
Rafa should be ultra relaxed tomorrow. Semi final also a massive advantage for Nadal as well. If it goes over 4 hours Djokovic will be a sitting duck in the final anyway.
All the pressure on Djokovic
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Sorry, guy that has won this slam 13 times has no pressure on him? Guy that could overtake a lead in GS count with a win? No pressure?

Ok bud, thanks for coming out.
 
daggerman said:
There’s no pressure on Novak. If he loses, it’s on to Wimbledon. If he wins, it’s on to the finals.
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I respectfully disagree. Novak wants to beat the best version of Rafa to solidify his name in history as one of the greatest on clay. To do that, you have to beat the "man" It just sucks that it wont be for the trophy. Yes, I know he beat him in the QF in 2015, but everyone knows Nadal was not even 50% of himself that season.
 
weakera said:
I'm not saying he necessarily would be but it's possible.
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Yeah I felt like it might be the opposite. Djokovic could go super hard here and at Wimbledon and then the Olympics throw a wrench into the normal schedule. Going to Japan just weeks before the USO will fatigue a lot of the players.

IMO Nadal has his best remaining chance ever to win another HC major at the US Open this year, as Djokovic and others will sell out to win an Olympic gold medal which he already has.
 
Kralingen said:
Yeah I felt like it might be the opposite. Djokovic could go super hard here and at Wimbledon and then the Olympics throw a wrench into the normal schedule. Going to Japan just weeks before the USO will fatigue a lot of the players.

IMO Nadal has his best remaining chance ever to win another HC major at the US Open this year, as Djokovic and others will sell out to win an Olympic gold medal which he already has.
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Yeah I wouldn't mind if Dal skips the Olympics.
 
Beckerserve said:
No lol. Djokovic has all the pressure for reasons you state. If he wants slam record he has to win tomorrow. Last chance saloon. Nadal has a huge advantage 2 Majors ahead. I said same last year.
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Actually he has three more chances coming up Wimbledon, USO and AO. Thread is ridiculous , but both of them want to win so they will both being feeling pressure. Same as it will be on the other side of the draw. They (the other side) just don't have as much experience dealing with it. Novak handled it poorly last year, so I expect it will be closer, but I have no idea how much closer.
 
reef58 said:
Actually he has three more chances coming up Wimbledon, USO and AO. Thread is ridiculous , but both of them want to win so they will both being feeling pressure. Same as it will be on the other side of the draw. They (the other side) just don't have as much experience dealing with it. Novak handled it poorly last year, so I expect it will be closer, but I have no idea how much closer.
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So does Nadal lol. And every other player.
 
GameSetDjokovic said:
Sorry, guy that has won this slam 13 times has no pressure on him? Guy that could overtake a lead in GS count with a win? No pressure?

Ok bud, thanks for coming out.
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I must be right as Djokovic fans are so triggered by this thread. Obviously Djokovic fans are feeling the heat. Ill bet Djokovic is as well for the reasons i have explained
 
Nadal is expected to win, so all the pressure is on him. Djokovic will enjoy a free ride at semi. If he loses, that's to be expected. If he wins, the pressure will really on him in the finals, because then he'll be a heavy favorite over Tsisipas or Zverev.

At Wimbledon, Djokovic will be expected to win, so the pressure there will be on him. That's how it works in all sports.
 
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wang07 said:
I don't think so. I mean he would have some chance at winning there if he could avoid Djokovic, but it's still quite unlikely. Also, peaking for RG seems to take more and more out of Rafa recently, who knows if he can even compete at the end of the year.


Yeah, according to you Tsitsipas winning RG would automatically make the next gen players serious contenders for Wimbledon somehow lol. How exactly again? They have been useless on grass for many years and shown zero progress. Flawed logic.
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Zverev has all the tools to win W. The Next Gen are more consistent. This is Tsitsipas 3rd SF in a row. I know Djokovic fans have this wish that once Nadal and Federer are so declined its vulture time at Slams but it is not the case. Nadal and Djokovic could both end their title hopes tomorrow. Anything 4 hours plus will make them ripe for Tsitsipas or Zverev.
 
Nole Slam said:
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Glad the penny dropped for you at last
 
I find it amazing how people persist in error.

"Game over" I've read this so many times since the AO17 final. And still continue.

No one will ever know when the game is over, until it is over.
 
catskillthunder said:
I respectfully disagree. Novak wants to beat the best version of Rafa to solidify his name in history as one of the greatest on clay. To do that, you have to beat the "man" It just sucks that it wont be for the trophy. Yes, I know he beat him in the QF in 2015, but everyone knows Nadal was not even 50% of himself that season.
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I think you're looking at it from a fan's perspective and not a player's perspective. Novak spends just about every waking hour of his life preparing to play tennis matches. My sense is that he feels as well-prepared as he could possibly be to face Rafa at this tournament, and what happens, happens.

I do think he'll feel some pressure, but I think it's more a pressure to prove to himself that his preparation was worth it. I really think he just lets the "legacy" side of things take care of itself.
 
Beckerserve said:
Tomorrow a free hit for Nadal. He is leader of Slams with Federer and GOAT it seems in locker room now judging by player comments.
This is where being on 20 Majors is a big advantage. If Nadal loses and Djokovic wins the event he is still one ahead.
If Djokovic does not win the event then the result is meaningless.
For Djokovic he has to win. Last chance saloon. If Rafa gets 21 Majors game over.
Rafa should be ultra relaxed tomorrow. Semi final also a massive advantage for Nadal as well. If it goes over 4 hours Djokovic will be a sitting duck in the final anyway.
All the pressure on Djokovic
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Djokovic has been the owner of Nadal+Federer for 10 years now.

Forgot how Fedal vultured slams in 2017 and the second half of 2018 in his absence?

Nd then when he returned again bowed down ?

A guy like that who has been the alpha for 10 years doesn't be in any pressure, he will bury Fedal under him in the end when the dust is clear.

21 is GAME OVER FOR NADAL, yes, this maybe his last chance to win, I will agree there.

Novak is the hunter, he will rule for another 4-5 years, you should be happy he missed the USO and Wimbie last year, or else he was gonna already be on 20, thats how good he is. ....
 
Beckerserve said:
I must be right as Djokovic fans are so triggered by this thread. Obviously Djokovic fans are feeling the heat. Ill bet Djokovic is as well for the reasons i have explained
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I am not triggered and don't feel heat. I am not out there playing and I get none of the prize money win or lose. Both of the guys are going to be under pressure. To deny that is hopefully a trolling attempt if not I feel sorry for you. Players feel pressure in the first round all the way to the end. This is a big match and both know it.
 
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