Alpha Apex II

rd0707

Rookie
Does anyone have any experience with this machine? Please provide any good/bad comments you have.

I notice the stand is on wheels, I assume they lock?
 

archer

New User
I have one, bought it used...it's 5+ years old. It's a kick-ass machine! Well built, bomb proof, aesthetically pleasing, very good mounting and clamping....have a Wise tension head, too...hehe! You can't go wrong with it.
 

COPEY

Hall of Fame
I have this machine as well. Everything about it is...well, awesome. In the room where I use it I don't have carpeting (yet), so I use the locking casters, and they work like a charm. If you opt for an Apex II I'd be shocked if you're not completely satisfied with the workmanship and performance of this machine.
 

rd0707

Rookie
Looks like Apex 2 is out of stock for 6 weeks. I may just order the Gamma 6004 seems like a comparable and solid machine as well?
 

mad dog1

G.O.A.T.
Looks like Apex 2 is out of stock for 6 weeks. I may just order the Gamma 6004 seems like a comparable and solid machine as well?
the Gamma 6004 is an excellent machine although if it were me, i'd probably get the new Stringway MS200 instead so i can have constant pull without any electronic components.
 
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eugkim

New User
I'm in the same boat. It basically came down to 3 machines for me, the Apex II, Gamma 6004 and the Stringway ML120. Based on what I could find, it didn't make sense to get the 6004, given that it seemed almost identical to the Apex II at $200 more. I also spoke to Mark Gonzales at Alpha, who was very helpful and gained my trust. So, it came down to 2 machines.

As I began to weigh my options, I narrowed down to the ML100 with stand and tray, which comes out about $100 less than the ML120. The benefit is the ability to take it on the road as a portable machine, yet use it on the stand at home like the ML120. The only difference is the inability to get the Concorde option on the ML100, which I wouldn't get anyway. I considered the ML200, but it lacked the portability of the ML100. I loved the thought of the T92 clamps, as it seems like a waste of effort to clamp twice each time.

Having basically decided upon the ML100/T92/stand/tray, I talked at length with Mark, and ended up with the Apex II. I used to string in college (graduated in 1987) on Ektelon/Prince P200, so I'm used to lockout mechanisms. Familiarity finally won out over everything else, and I'm very happy. I'm getting the machine as a Christmas gift for my son, who is a budding competitive player. He won't know the difference, as he's never strung before.

In some ways, I regret not pulling the trigger on the Stringway, as they seem so well built, and are apparently fairly light as they're aluminum.

Ultimately, these machines (6004, Apex II, Stringway) all have great reviews. I think I'd be happy with any one of them.
 

mad dog1

G.O.A.T.
In some ways, I regret not pulling the trigger on the Stringway, as they seem so well built, and are apparently fairly light as they're aluminum.
only the stringway string clamps are made of aluminum. the rest of the machine is steel, not aluminum.
 

eugkim

New User
only the stringway string clamps are made of aluminum. the rest of the machine is steel, not aluminum.
This wasn't what Mark at Alpha had told me. He said that the ML100 was fairly light as it was (maybe partially) made of aluminum. He said the stand was also aluminum. Stringway's site says the following in its description of the ML100:


CAST ALUMINIUM RACQUET-SUPPORT-TABLE WITH MAXIMUM RACQUET PROTECTION

Extended Mounting Table is Extremely Strong and Durable
The aluminum mounting table has ribs that prevent the table from bending. Racquets with very long string area can be easily mounted.
"Direct" Racquet Support System
Never any broken racquets with a "direct" racquet support system. The racquet head is supported at 3 points and the bridge at 2 points. Very wide delrin supports protect the frame from damage. The throat supports can be adjusted according to the frame thickness.


Maybe I misunderstood Mark and Stringway's website.
 

mad dog1

G.O.A.T.
^^ yeah, you're right. having seen & used the stringway turntable firsthand, it looked and felt like steel, but i guess it's definitely aluminum.
 

g4driver

Hall of Fame
I too have an Apex II. I received on of the first machines built in the new plant this spring, and it had a few glitches. It was understandable with the new plant. One of the clamps was difficult to move and position. It didn't move like the other clamp, and cleaning the table didn't help. In addition one of the bolts that secured the mounting towers to the table was too short and you couldn't attached the L-shaped lever to the clamp, and hence the tower couldn't be attached to the table.

I placed a call to Mark, and he offered me three solutions. A new machine, or a new table and two mounting towers, or a complete refund.

I choose to take the new table and two mounting towers. It was a simple fix. Once I got home from a trip, I setup the new parts, and was in business.

Alpha's Customer Service can't be beat. Period. Dot.

If you have any problem with their machines, they take care of it promptly.
 

rd0707

Rookie
Having constant pull is not a big factor for me since I will be stringing for own racqiets. So with the Gamma or Alpha I can find the tension setting I like and stick with it.(add a couple of pounds compared to constant pull).

I am more concerned with the mounting system and clamps.

I believe all 3 machines Gamma 6004, Alpha Apex 2 and Stringway ML100 all have great mounting sytems. Although reading threads it appears Stringway may be the best.

Clamps: Can anyone comment on the clamps of the 3 machines? Stringway has the t92, Alpha Apex 2(looks like a 3 toothed diamond dusted), Gamma 6004 (4 toothed metal?)
 

g4driver

Hall of Fame
Alpha Apex 2 Clamps are three toothed diamond dusted. The are easy to adjust, and hold the strings without damaging them.
 

rd0707

Rookie
Based on what I could find, it didn't make sense to get the 6004, given that it seemed almost identical to the Apex II at $200 more.


The 6004 at TW is $1299 which includes shipping. Apex II is $1099 plus for me about $110 in shipping was what I was quoted. At the end of the day very similar machines for almost same price.
 

mad dog1

G.O.A.T.
Having constant pull is not a big factor for me since I will be stringing for own racqiets. So with the Gamma or Alpha I can find the tension setting I like and stick with it.(add a couple of pounds compared to constant pull).

I am more concerned with the mounting system and clamps.

I believe all 3 machines Gamma 6004, Alpha Apex 2 and Stringway ML100 all have great mounting sytems. Although reading threads it appears Stringway may be the best.

Clamps: Can anyone comment on the clamps of the 3 machines? Stringway has the t92, Alpha Apex 2(looks like a 3 toothed diamond dusted), Gamma 6004 (4 toothed metal?)
i own the gamma 6004 and have strung on an older stringway ms200dx. if i were in the market for a machine now, i would buy the stringway hands down. one of the main things i disliked about the older stringway was the clamps. you needed and allen wrench to adjust them, but the new stringway clamps are now adjustable with a thumbwheel. i felt the same way you do about having constant pull when i started stringing, but after my experience with the stringway and crank machines, i found that it's far easier to get consistent results with the stringway. don't get me wrong, the gamma is a very good machine, but now that i've tried both, if i had to do it again, i'd definitely get a stringway.
 

eugkim

New User
A strange turn of events today. I received a call from Mark. There are problems with the Apex II to be shipped to me. There are no others available, so either I wait for February or change course. As you can probably tell from my posts, I was literally 50/50 deciding between the ML100 and the Apex II., and I definitely had reservations about not getting the Stringway. This made my decision easy. I hope to get the ML100 and the stand sometime next week. I went with the T92 clamps. The only question mark for me is the Stringway mounting system. I've heard good things about it, but it seems like the 6 point mount is secure and very easy to use. Any insight on this?
 

mad dog1

G.O.A.T.
A strange turn of events today. I received a call from Mark. There are problems with the Apex II to be shipped to me. There are no others available, so either I wait for February or change course. As you can probably tell from my posts, I was literally 50/50 deciding between the ML100 and the Apex II., and I definitely had reservations about not getting the Stringway. This made my decision easy. I hope to get the ML100 and the stand sometime next week. I went with the T92 clamps. The only question mark for me is the Stringway mounting system. I've heard good things about it, but it seems like the 6 point mount is secure and very easy to use. Any insight on this?
the 5 pt inside mount is supposed to be one of the best. i found it to be very good. it does take more time to mount a racquet which might be an issue if you're stringing a lot of racquets.
 

rd0707

Rookie
A strange turn of events today. I received a call from Mark. There are problems with the Apex II to be shipped to me. There are no others available, so either I wait for February or change course. As you can probably tell from my posts, I was literally 50/50 deciding between the ML100 and the Apex II., and I definitely had reservations about not getting the Stringway. This made my decision easy. I hope to get the ML100 and the stand sometime next week. I went with the T92 clamps. The only question mark for me is the Stringway mounting system. I've heard good things about it, but it seems like the 6 point mount is secure and very easy to use. Any insight on this?
I looked at the ML 100 as well and was told my Alpha it would take 3-4 weeks before they can ship it. Appears like Gamma 6004 is the only thing in stock right now.
 

struggle

Legend
Can someone here tell me the differences between the Apex 2 and the Axis Pro?
looks like the mounting system and maybe the clamps are the main differences, just going on pics. same tension head, looks like. to be honest, functionally i don't see a huge difference. call me dumb.
 
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