Alpha Ghost 2 Stringing Machine

Folsom_Stringer_Musa

Professional
If the Ghost were so bad at providing a consistent string job, why do clients leave two local shops closer to their homes both with Wilson Baiardo machines, and use a stringer with an Alpha Ghost? Surely the $2 price difference isn't enough to pick me. My 02: It isn't the machine. It's the stringer.
It is the stringer and his skills, not the machine!

EDIT: I meant to say, 2 machines of similar level with 2 stringers with different skills.
No point in giving a skilled stringer Klipper but give sloppy stringer high end machine and then compare the quality.
 
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Rabbit

G.O.A.T.
But I gotta say....the machine helps. :) I know I produce better, more consistent string jobs in less time with less effort using the Mighty Sensor. But for the most part, it's like peeing in a blue suit. You get a warm feeling but nobody else notices. I doubt the majority of people notice that the string jobs are better and I know all of them wouldn't be willing to pay more just because I got a better machine.
 

afeller

New User
Ok, got my Head TE3300 this week (should be similar to the Alpha). I recommend to use the auto-lock function :) Because the turntable has no damping mechanism and the turntable is wobbling a lot.
 

Rabbit

G.O.A.T.
Somebody needs to explain this wobble stuff to me. If I don’t line up the pull and hit tension, yes the turntable will wobble. But that’s true of any machine and that’s what the stringer’s job is: no wobble, straight crosses, etc.
 

Addxyz

Professional
Somebody needs to explain this wobble stuff to me. If I don’t line up the pull and hit tension, yes the turntable will wobble. But that’s true of any machine and that’s what the stringer’s job is: no wobble, straight crosses, etc.
In some YT vids, it seems like some machines, when you pull tension, the turntable will turn to line up and wobble back and forth once it reaches the line up point. Almost like the turntable is either rotating too easily or the head doesn't pull as hard?
 
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Irvin

Talk Tennis Guru
In some YT vids, it seems like some machines, when you pull tension, the turntable will turn to line up and not wobble back and forth once it reaches the line up point. Almost like the turntable is either rotating too easily or the head doesn't pull as hard?
Sound to me like you’re saying 2 different things. If there is damping the turntable will not rotate as fast, or you can apply a brake to stop the turntable From rotating. If there is no / little damping, or no brake applied, and the turntable is not lined up correctly as tension is applied the the table will turn to line up. The inertia of the turntable and racket will continue to turn the table past the point of alignment and the table will continue in a wobbling motion until it stops.

My Star 5 has damping and no noticeable wobble. My 700-ES has very little damping. If you hand pull the string through the diablo and gripper on the 700-ES you can eliminate most of the wobble on tension pulls.
 

g4driver

Hall of Fame
Somebody needs to explain this wobble stuff to me. If I don’t line up the pull and hit tension, yes the turntable will wobble. But that’s true of any machine and that’s what the stringer’s job is: no wobble, straight crosses, etc.
Remember this @Rabbitt?



Ghost AutoBrake "OFF": If I have the string at a slight angle to the diablo, the turntable will "wiggle" not really a "wobble" and continue to pull tension until the wiggle stops and the tension locks out.

Ghost Auto Brake "ON": If I have the string at a slight angle to the diablo, the tension head will start to pull tension but not lock as the turntable turns to make the angle as close to 180 as possible (The center mains pulled would be nearly a straight line or 180 angle ), all the while the tension continues to pull. Once the Auto Brake Locks, the angle is between the grommet and diablo is set, and the tensioner will continue pulling tension and then lock off. The Wiggle is gone with the Auto Brake On and the turntable reaches a lock point much quicker than without it.

I have been flying for 34 years, IMO, the AutoBrake on a Ghost serves a similar purpose to a YAW Damper in a jet / airplane to counter adverse yaw. You can turn off the Ghost's Auto Brake feature, but I like it personally. The key in using it is to get the largest angle between the grommet and the diablo so your string isn't being pulled a 90 degree angle..


If the Ghost's AutoBrake "On" feature is simply a tool. If you know how to properly use it, it makes stringing faster. If you are sloppy with it, you will get inconsistent results if the angle between the grommet and diablo vary from one frame to the next frame. e.g. I strung three Yonex Ai 98 frames for one client this week. All three frames strung back to back, all same strings, tension and all using the AutoBrake feature ON. Client is a 4.5A down and I string 3 to 4 frame for him every month. He is 8-0 in USTA play in 2021 Men's tennis, and has never told me I give him inconsistently strung frames.


@Edgewood turn off the Yaw Damper next time you at FL410 and let me know how the clients like it. :laughing:
 
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Irvin

Talk Tennis Guru
@Irvin , what went wrong with the Star 5 , to make you purchase another machine? Could you not get parts to repair the Star5.
I cand get it repaired probably but just wanted a new machine. I wanted to try the push / push clamp bases too and love them.
 

Addxyz

Professional
Sound to me like you’re saying 2 different things. If there is damping the turntable will not rotate as fast, or you can apply a brake to stop the turntable From rotating. If there is no / little damping, or no brake applied, and the turntable is not lined up correctly as tension is applied the the table will turn to line up. The inertia of the turntable and racket will continue to turn the table past the point of alignment and the table will continue in a wobbling motion until it stops.

My Star 5 has damping and no noticeable wobble. My 700-ES has very little damping. If you hand pull the string through the diablo and gripper on the 700-ES you can eliminate most of the wobble on tension pulls.
Sorry, the "not wobble" should be wobble. @g4driver explained it better in his subsequent post.
 

Rabbit

G.O.A.T.
Ok as I thought. @Richard Parnell addressed this in his ATW video I believe saying you shouldn’t let the turntable wiggle or wobble or move to and fro. I don’t use the brake, I keep a hand on the frame to keep it steady when tension is pulled.
BTW the Mighty Sensor has push down bases and they are sublime.
 

Wes

Professional
Ok as I thought. @Richard Parnell addressed this in his ATW video I believe saying you shouldn’t let the turntable wiggle or wobble or move to and fro. I don’t use the brake, I keep a hand on the frame to keep it steady when tension is pulled.
BTW the Mighty Sensor has push down bases and they are sublime.
That's how I prevent turntable "wobble" as well.
Gamma machines have turntables that spin/turn very freely.
 

Irvin

Talk Tennis Guru
They are Xpider, I spoke to one of the Xpider guys in Taiwan last week, and he confirmed that Tourna is their re-branded US distributor.
I’m pretty sure Unique Sports is the US Distributor for Xpider, and they are the distributor for Tourna.
 

MAX PLY

Hall of Fame
Unique Sports Products is effectively Tourna--I believe Gene Niksich was the originator of those early products (Tourna Grip, the original "O" dampner, etc. and he has a ton of patents) and he and his sons continue to run the enterprise. Honestly, a great story of business success. As for the Tourna stringing machines, I believe they are made for the Tourna brand by a third party (presumably Xpider).
 

Rabbit

G.O.A.T.
I’m pretty sure Unique Sports is the US Distributor for Xpider, and they are the distributor for Tourna.
I have it from a very reliable source that Tourna is not the distributor for Xpider, just a client. Xpider builds the machines for Tourna using their brand as they do other brands. Xpider is one of the smaller machine factories in Taiwan, Ex-Three is the biggest as they supply HEAD, Dunlop, Yonex, Alpha etc.

I hope this helps.
 

Irvin

Talk Tennis Guru
I’m pretty sure Unique Sports is the US Distributor for Xpider, and they are the distributor for Tourna.
See video description or watch video. Whether Unique Sports is the only distributor of Xpider bases I don’t know.

 
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