Alternative for ZX Monogut with Kev Hybrid?

dr. godmode

Hall of Fame
It's very hard for me to get ZX Monogut in my area. I saw some posters recommend Mosquito Bite in the crosses, but this doesn't seem like a replacement for Monogut.

Should I go for a slippery multi, a soft poly or some syn gut?
 

esgee48

G.O.A.T.
Lookup the specs for Babolat SpiralTek. It's a SG with a very low COF and good tension maintenance. Unfortunately, it is also a fairly soft string and my clients prefer something stiffer. Another decent SG is Head FXP. The Kevlar/Mosquito Bite hybrid is strung up pretty tight and may not be to your liking. The SpiralTek is a cheap trial if you tie the crosses off on crosses.
 

dr. godmode

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Lookup the specs for Babolat SpiralTek. It's a SG with a very low COF and good tension maintenance. Unfortunately, it is also a fairly soft string and my clients prefer something stiffer. Another decent SG is Head FXP. The Kevlar/Mosquito Bite hybrid is strung up pretty tight and may not be to your liking. The SpiralTek is a cheap trial if you tie the crosses off on crosses.

So am I looking primarily for something with low string-on-string COF? Or is there more to it for Kev hybrids?
 

esgee48

G.O.A.T.
Yes, you want low string COF. You can use the TWU reporter on string DB and sort on COF. However, you also want good tension maintenance unless you plan to restring only crosses.

There is also another issue with Kevlar. Because it is so stiff, you think it won't stretch once it reaches ref tension. Wrong! The braids start to align over time and even minute increases in length (e.g. ~0.1-0.2 mm) can result in large tension losses. If you have ever used Pro Blend in the past, this was what happened, the stupid Kevlar lost so much tension if would not slide over the SG crosses anymore. That why a lot of the Kevlar users say you need to prestretch it.

BTW, that poster using MB probably prestretches it so he can string it at 86#. ZX will break at 60#.
 

travlerajm

Talk Tennis Guru
I haven’t found anything that approaches the overall performance of zx as a cross. Even zx that has been recycled several times as crosses in multiple racquets is better than anything else.
 

dr. godmode

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Yes, you want low string COF. You can use the TWU reporter on string DB and sort on COF. However, you also want good tension maintenance unless you plan to restring only crosses.

There is also another issue with Kevlar. Because it is so stiff, you think it won't stretch once it reaches ref tension. Wrong! The braids start to align over time and even minute increases in length (e.g. ~0.1-0.2 mm) can result in large tension losses. If you have ever used Pro Blend in the past, this was what happened, the stupid Kevlar lost so much tension if would not slide over the SG crosses anymore. That why a lot of the Kevlar users say you need to prestretch it.

BTW, that poster using MB probably prestretches it so he can string it at 86#. ZX will break at 60#.
I appreciate your input. I will string something up this week, maybe Head PPS, as it is available and affordable for me.
 

dr. godmode

Hall of Fame
I haven’t found anything that approaches the overall performance of zx as a cross. Even zx that has been recycled several times as crosses in multiple racquets is better than anything else.
So you would say basically every category (spin, feel, etc) is significantly better than the next best alternative? Could you hypothesize that if I like a Kev/SynGut hybrid that I would probably prefer the Monogut?

I'm also curious to hear your input on why so many of the players that use Kevlar seem to have super heavy racquet set up.
 

graycrait

Legend
I prestretch the snot out of Ash Kev with a winch. I then string it up in most anything at 65lbs. I have used Origin extensively as a cross at 60lbs. Also many times have used Zyex at 60lbs. You don't need to use it in a heavy racket. The issue is it plays so soft after it settles in you better have a big swing or lots of swing weight. But Ash Kev x Zyex or Origin in a RA 50 stick and you better swing for the fences.
 

dr. godmode

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I prestretch the snot out of Ash Kev with a winch. I then string it up in most anything at 65lbs. I have used Origin extensively as a cross at 60lbs. Also many times have used Zyex at 60lbs. You don't need to use it in a heavy racket. The issue is it plays so soft after it settles in you better have a big swing or lots of swing weight. But Ash Kev x Zyex or Origin in a RA 50 stick and you better swing for the fences.
Would a normal prestretch wear you clamp the string and pull on it with body weight not be enough for Kevlar?
 

travlerajm

Talk Tennis Guru
I prestretch the snot out of Ash Kev with a winch. I then string it up in most anything at 65lbs. I have used Origin extensively as a cross at 60lbs. Also many times have used Zyex at 60lbs. You don't need to use it in a heavy racket. The issue is it plays so soft after it settles in you better have a big swing or lots of swing weight. But Ash Kev x Zyex or Origin in a RA 50 stick and you better swing for the fences.
I tried Origin as a cross for kevlar, wondering how it would compare to zx. But I found that the kevlar mains were sticking, with the Origin behaving no differently than any old nylon syn gut after the nylon's outer coating wears off (Origin seemed to be sticky almost from the getgo). zx is special in that it's surface stays slick for eternity, and if the main and cross tensions are set up right initially, the snapback spin effect never goes away. Some poly's can come close to zx as far as surface wear, but of course the poly's are much stiffer than zx.
 

graycrait

Legend
@travlerjam, I haven't had the same sticking or locking stringbed with Origin and Ash Kev, but it plays so soft that it takes too much effort for me to swing it. Zyex works the best so far I have found with Ash Kev. Seeing as I have a good part of a reel of Zyex and just a little bit of Origin left I think I am about done experimenting with Origin. As a cross for Tour Bite, Hyper G or Outlast PSGD works as well as anything I have tried.
 

2nd Serve Ace

Hall of Fame
As a cross for Tour Bite, Hyper G or Outlast PSGD works as well as anything I have tried.

I would say poly/origin is the best way to go for O. Using it with Kev made for a super comfortable and great feel stringbed, but there was hardly any topspin "dip" to it and the coating coming off quickly was a nuisance.

I thought performance actually improved somewhat when O got down to the clear coat layer.
 

dr. godmode

Hall of Fame
Ok so I strung up my SV95 with Ashaway Kev 16 and Head PPS 17 @ 60/40lbs. The ball pocketing and feel was unreal. After about 1h of solid hitting, I definitely noticed the decrease in spin or "string bed locking." I wish the setup had more spin in general, as the spin was definitely less than my regular full poly setup (Snakebite 17 @ 51/48lbs.)

I'm very open to suggestions that offer better snapback or more power, but I'm hesitant to go to a poly cross as I worry I'll lose some feel.
 

OldschoolKIaus

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Should I go for a slippery multi, a soft poly or some syn gut?

Slippery multi? Head Velocity works pretty good as cross string with a poly mains, so you could give it a try, but I'm afraid, kev mains would scratch/saw (or should I say: burn. I like your profile picture :D ) off Velocity's slippery coating rather fast.

Unfortunatley, it's quite hard to find a proper substitute for ZX as it's a very unique string.
 
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dr. godmode

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Slippery multi? Head Velocity works pretty good as cross string with a poly mains, so you could give it a try, but I'm afraid, kev mains would scratch/saw (or should I say: burn. I like your profile picture :D ) off Velocity's slippery coating rather fast.

Unfortunatley, it's quite hard to find a proper substitute for ZX as it's a very unique string.

Perhaps I should just take (make?) the plunge and just deal with shipping costs
 

Shroud

Talk Tennis Guru
Ok so I strung up my SV95 with Ashaway Kev 16 and Head PPS 17 @ 60/40lbs. The ball pocketing and feel was unreal. After about 1h of solid hitting, I definitely noticed the decrease in spin or "string bed locking." I wish the setup had more spin in general, as the spin was definitely less than my regular full poly setup (Snakebite 17 @ 51/48lbs.)

I'm very open to suggestions that offer better snapback or more power, but I'm hesitant to go to a poly cross as I worry I'll lose some feel.
Yikes. PPS thats a syngut right? Syngut will lock pretty quickly. If you arent using zx at least use a soft poly or just a regular poly. Even something cheap like isospeed baseline will be better than syngut.

Lately I have been wowed by kev/ max power. But I like it stiff
 

dr. godmode

Hall of Fame
Yikes. PPS thats a syngut right? Syngut will lock pretty quickly. If you arent using zx at least use a soft poly or just a regular poly. Even something cheap like isospeed baseline will be better than syngut.

Lately I have been wowed by kev/ max power. But I like it stiff

Yeah it was awesome for one hour and it's basically unplayable now. Even with syngut, it's approaching max stiffness for my taste, so I'm working on getting some Monogut in.
 

Muppet

Legend
What does kev/ZX feel like? Is it plush and firm? Can you feel the strings biting on the ball? Dead or springy? Pocket or deflection?

Thanks
 

2nd Serve Ace

Hall of Fame
What does kev/ZX feel like? Is it plush and firm? Can you feel the strings biting on the ball? Dead or springy? Pocket or deflection?

Thanks
Firm but not harsh. Does provide the feel of "carving" the ball similar to some shaped polys. Pretty dead but with some feedback. No pocketing, but full ball compression. [emoji4]

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Muppet

Legend
Firm but not harsh. Does provide the feel of "carving" the ball similar to some shaped polys. Pretty dead but with some feedback. No pocketing, but full ball compression. [emoji4]

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Ahh...that's a nice description. Thanks.
 

Muppet

Legend
That would be affordable for a trial, but what if I like it? I think I'm passing though. It sounds like it's too solid with too little feedback for me. I prefer some pocket, dwell time, and a lot of feel.

TBH what I have now is all I need. A reel of Cyber Flash and a reel of Kirsch SG for the crosses on my 2 MuscleWeaves. And a Black Force reel and Plus Power reel and a reel of Gutex Ultra to keep my Biomimetic 200 entertained. Throw in a dwindling reel of Red Devil that's nice on a MW. All of this and I just keep on logging in to see what else is new. I've even solved my 3 other odd ball racquets, so I know what to order for them when they need it.
 
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Shroud

Talk Tennis Guru
That would be affordable for a trial, but what if I like it? I think I'm passing though. It sounds like it's too solid with too little feedback for me. I prefer some pocket, dwell time, and a lot of feel.
Well kev/zx is one of the most cost effective stringbeds out there. It last forever and if you prestretch it after the initial tension losses it will play the same till it breaks. Some reports over 100 hours of play time

Well it may not be for you but if you read the ESP thread aome posters were surprised by the feel. The zx softness cuts the harshness especially because its slick and with the differential you can get surprising feel. Its not like gut but its not like a board either.

You could lower the tension too
 

dr. godmode

Hall of Fame
That would be affordable for a trial, but what if I like it? I think I'm passing though. It sounds like it's too solid with too little feedback for me. I prefer some pocket, dwell time, and a lot of feel.

TBH what I have now is all I need. A reel of Cyber Flash and a reel of Kirsch SG for the crosses on my 2 MuscleWeaves. And a Black Force reel and Plus Power reel and a reel of Gutex Ultra to keep my Biomimetic 200 entertained. Throw in a dwindling reel of Red Devil that's nice on a MW. All of this and I just keep on logging in to see what else is new. I've even solved my 3 other odd ball racquets, so I know what to order for them when they need it.
When I tried it with the crappy syngut, I thought the feel was unreal. It stiff, but not the same way poly's feel stiff. It's like the ball stays on the stings for a really long time and you get a lot of feedback from the ball, but it is never harsh or brisk.
 

Muppet

Legend
Well kev/zx is one of the most cost effective stringbeds out there. It last forever and if you prestretch it after the initial tension losses it will play the same till it breaks. Some reports over 100 hours of play time

Well it may not be for you but if you read the ESP thread aome posters were surprised by the feel. The zx softness cuts the harshness especially because its slick and with the differential you can get surprising feel. Its not like gut but its not like a board either.

You could lower the tension too
I hope Ashaway appreciates your plug. But I do believe you really are into this hybrid. I wonder how long it will take me to commit to Cyber Flash/Kirsch SG and never buy any more ZX. When I'm near the end of my CF reel I'll have to face the TBS question.
 

Shroud

Talk Tennis Guru
I hope Ashaway appreciates your plug. But I do believe you really are into this hybrid. I wonder how long it will take me to commit to Cyber Flash/Kirsch SG and never buy any more ZX. When I'm near the end of my CF reel I'll have to face the TBS question.
No idea what Ashaway thinks. They used to have a rep here but he left.

Actually i just use their kev since zx is too soft for me. Since I shedded 80g of my racquet I have been stringing the crosses 30lbs lower at 56lbs. I could do zx cosses if I wanted.

But i found ashaways monofire poly too soft so i doubt zx would work. Been using kev/maxpower at 86/56 and am loving it. Its firm and seems to be holding tension.

Tbs?

Though if you are using sg crosses you may not like zx crosses.
 

Muppet

Legend
No idea what Ashaway thinks. They used to have a rep here but he left.

Actually i just use their kev since zx is too soft for me. Since I shedded 80g of my racquet I have been stringing the crosses 30lbs lower at 56lbs. I could do zx cosses if I wanted.

But i found ashaways monofire poly too soft so i doubt zx would work. Been using kev/maxpower at 86/56 and am loving it. Its firm and seems to be holding tension.

Tbs?

Though if you are using sg crosses you may not like zx crosses.
TBS = Tour Bite Soft
 

travlerajm

Talk Tennis Guru
I think feel of Kevlar/zx can range widely depending on how it’s strung (tension, difference between mains and cross tension, headsize, and pattern density factor in).

Can range from firm and crispy to soft and cushiony. From boardy to pockety.

But the one neat unique characteristic of zx is that it never dents and stays glassy smooth when used as a cross with a softer surfaced main like Kevlar. That means you never get that painful impulse that you get from worn-in poly with dents in the crosses.
 

liftordie

Hall of Fame
Well kev/zx is one of the most cost effective stringbeds out there. It last forever and if you prestretch it after the initial tension losses it will play the same till it breaks. Some reports over 100 hours of play time

Well it may not be for you but if you read the ESP thread aome posters were surprised by the feel. The zx softness cuts the harshness especially because its slick and with the differential you can get surprising feel. Its not like gut but its not like a board either.

You could lower the tension too
What tension to start in kevlar world with Crossfire ZX in a PA?
I want first comfort > control > spin.
Thanks
 

dr. godmode

Hall of Fame
What tension to start in kevlar world with Crossfire ZX in a PA?
I want first comfort > control > spin.
Thanks
The idea with this stringbed is big time tension differentials. You want the kevlar to be strung high enough that it snaps back (60lbs+ imo) and the ZX pretty loose to soften it up (40lbs seems to be what most people do).

I started at 60/40 as I saw a lot of people recommend it.
 

Shroud

Talk Tennis Guru
What tension to start in kevlar world with Crossfire ZX in a PA?
I want first comfort > control > spin.
Thanks
Do a manual prestretch pulling on one end of the string as explained here.

Try 60/40 to start. Maybe 60/30 for more comfort but control may not be as good.

Some would say the PA may not be the racquet for comfort...but if you like it try the above tensions. I find them comfy myself at least the 112 is.
 

liftordie

Hall of Fame
Do a manual prestretch pulling on one end of the string as explained here.

Try 60/40 to start. Maybe 60/30 for more comfort but control may not be as good.

Some would say the PA may not be the racquet for comfort...but if you like it try the above tensions. I find them comfy myself at least the 112 is.
60/30????? But it will destroy my frames!!!!! :eek:
 

Shroud

Talk Tennis Guru
60/30????? But it will destroy my frames!!!!! :eek:
Doubtful. Have done several frames at 50lb of differential 86/36 and havent lost one yet.

I have the 112. I think I did a 30lb differential in that frame but am not 100% sure. I can probably string it up this weekend at 86/36 and see how the frame handles that. Betting it will be fine.

I havent seen anyone post about destroying a frame who has tried it and if it were a thing i would have destroyed all kind of frames but never have. So would travlerajm who does 90/40 all the time
 

liftordie

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Doubtful. Have done several frames at 50lb of differential 86/36 and havent lost one yet.

I have the 112. I think I did a 30lb differential in that frame but am not 100% sure. I can probably string it up this weekend at 86/36 and see how the frame handles that. Betting it will be fine.

I havent seen anyone post about destroying a frame who has tried it and if it were a thing i would have destroyed all kind of frames but never have. So would travlerajm who does 90/40 all the time
It will damage the frame slowly for sure....
 

Shroud

Talk Tennis Guru
It will damage the frame slowly for sure....
So will playing and normal stringing. All I can say is that I was doing differentials about 4 years ago and most of my racquets get 30lb differentials or get strung at 86/86lbs depending on the SW. either of those should have a graveyard of frames.

Recently I moved and found an identical stick that had never been strung. I strung it up and cant tell any difference between it and the others that have 4 years on them. Was expecting it to feel stiffer but it wasnt noticeable at all.

Some of the racquets i have done this with are 20-30 year old Profiles that I got off of ****. Who knows the kind of stresses they have had in that time yet I strung them with max tension or 30lb differentials. No issues.

Maybe babalots are weak racquets? I doubt it and it hasnt been just wilsons. Its been, princes, dunlops, gammas, technifibers, and volkls. And probably some I have forgotten.

But I will string my babolat and double check.
 

liftordie

Hall of Fame
Do a manual prestretch pulling on one end of the string as explained here.

Try 60/40 to start. Maybe 60/30 for more comfort but control may not be as good.

Some would say the PA may not be the racquet for comfort...but if you like it try the above tensions. I find them comfy myself at least the 112 is.
From Ashaway support when I ask for recommended tension with Crossfire ZX for my Pure Aero frames:

"Kevlar mains at 50 lbs and MonoGut ZX crosses at 56 lbs would be a good place to start."

And NO pre-stretch at all!
 

Shroud

Talk Tennis Guru
From Ashaway support when I ask for recommended tension with Crossfire ZX for my Pure Aero frames:

"Kevlar mains at 50 lbs and MonoGut ZX crosses at 56 lbs would be a good place to start."

And NO pre-stretch at all!
No doubt they would say stuff like that. The increased crosses are to try to overcome the major tension loss you will get from not prestretching.

Bet you its not AP specific. They will give that rec on any frame that size.

There was a similiar post in the esp thread with a similar rec from Ashaway. There was a rep here and Iirc he was part of the ESP thread. Never recall him saying not to do the rec 60/40. His handle was julianashaway if they still have his posts you can see.

Fwiw I used to work for a major electronics company. This was when HD was coming on the market and they didnt have an HDMI connection. If you called their tech support and asked them if you could use an adapter from HDMI to Component vid they emphaticatically would say NO. That puzzled me a ton because in the field we were regularly using such adapters with no issues. When I talked to the head of tech support he acknowledged that adapters would work but because they hadnt tested all of them on the market or even one, they couldnt support such an adapter for customers... even though many of the adapters workd great. By test I mean a rigorous engineering test with several popular TVs and different adapters.

You cant see hiw a manufacturer would discourage something they never tried??

Also the whole stringing industry is way behind the times and IMHO doesnt even understand the frame distortion one gets with nat gut/ poly ( which they string all the time). So Ashaway would have an uphill battle trying to change a ton of minds and well stringers are the most opinionated people on the planet

And truthfully zx is pretty fragile if you dont know how to use it. Bet they are afraid of all the “it broke while stringing” compalaints and are recommending no prestretch because they dont know how it will be done, etc. Said another way, what they wrote doesnt mean 60/40 or 60/30 wont work. Have you read the ESP thread? 22 pages plenty of people doing prestretching and differentials. It even explains the differential and what the stiffness of kevlar means in relation to the stiffness of zx and how the kev mains will lose tension more iirc.

https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/ind...-can-see-the-future-of-tennis-strings.468680/

Did they tell you how to string it?? Bet not

Here in case I am wrong. It wasnt me but one poster claimed that this vid came right out of the ESP thread:

 

liftordie

Hall of Fame
No doubt they would say stuff like that. The increased crosses are to try to overcome the major tension loss you will get from not prestretching.

Bet you its not AP specific. They will give that rec on any frame that size.

There was a similiar post in the esp thread with a similar rec from Ashaway. There was a rep here and Iirc he was part of the ESP thread. Never recall him saying not to do the rec 60/40. His handle was julianashaway if they still have his posts you can see.

Fwiw I used to work for a major electronics company. This was when HD was coming on the market and they didnt have an HDMI connection. If you called their tech support and asked them if you could use an adapter from HDMI to Component vid they emphaticatically would say NO. That puzzled me a ton because in the field we were regularly using such adapters with no issues. When I talked to the head of tech support he acknowledged that adapters would work but because they hadnt tested all of them on the market or even one, they couldnt support such an adapter for customers... even though many of the adapters workd great. By test I mean a rigorous engineering test with several popular TVs and different adapters.

You cant see hiw a manufacturer would discourage something they never tried??

Also the whole stringing industry is way behind the times and IMHO doesnt even understand the frame distortion one gets with nat gut/ poly ( which they string all the time). So Ashaway would have an uphill battle trying to change a ton of minds and well stringers are the most opinionated people on the planet

And truthfully zx is pretty fragile if you dont know how to use it. Bet they are afraid of all the “it broke while stringing” compalaints and are recommending no prestretch because they dont know how it will be done, etc. Said another way, what they wrote doesnt mean 60/40 or 60/30 wont work. Have you read the ESP thread? 22 pages plenty of people doing prestretching and differentials. It even explains the differential and what the stiffness of kevlar means in relation to the stiffness of zx and how the kev mains will lose tension more iirc.

https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/ind...-can-see-the-future-of-tennis-strings.468680/

Did they tell you how to string it?? Bet not

Here in case I am wrong. It wasnt me but one poster claimed that this vid came right out of the ESP thread:

WOW!!! If I have to replace all the grommets before stringing ZX............. :eek:
That is DEFINITELY a way too much complicate string!!! :confused:
Thanks for getting me understanding that before buying!!! :)
 

Shroud

Talk Tennis Guru
WOW!!! If I have to replace all the grommets before stringing ZX............. :eek:
That is DEFINITELY a way too much complicate string!!! :confused:
Thanks for getting me understanding that before buying!!! :)
Did you watch the vid??

He didnt say you has to replace all the grommets. Only if they were warn or missing or sharp, etc. thats routine on ANY string.
 

liftordie

Hall of Fame
Did you watch the vid??

He didnt say you has to replace all the grommets. Only if they were warn or missing or sharp, etc. thats routine on ANY string.
Poly will not break as ZX if grommets are not perfect... ZX is way more fragile. That is a fact.
 

Shroud

Talk Tennis Guru
Poly will not break as ZX if grommets are not perfect... ZX is way more fragile. That is a fact.
Never said it wasnt a fragile string. Actually I said it was fragile and was trying to help you. But the vid didnt say one had to replace the grommets in order to string zx. Thats a fact.

Any string can snap if the grommet is bad except maybe kevlar. So as the vid says replacing a worn grommet is something to do on ANY string.
 

liftordie

Hall of Fame
Never said it wasnt a fragile string. Actually I said it was fragile and was trying to help you. But the vid didnt say one had to replace the grommets in order to string zx. Thats a fact.

Any string can snap if the grommet is bad except maybe kevlar. So as the vid says replacing a worn grommet is something to do on ANY string.
Yes but a normal used grommet could break ZX and not a normal poly. It is why he speaks about that at the start of the vid......
Hope you will understand. :)
 

Shroud

Talk Tennis Guru
Yes but a normal used grommet could break ZX and not a normal poly. It is why he speaks about that at the start of the vid......
Hope you will understand. :)
I understand that you missed him saying "or ANY string for that matter" when talking about the worn grommets

Anyhow its pretty clear that zx isnt a viable option for you especially if you can't understand how worn grommets can be a bad thing for any string...
 

liftordie

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I understand that you missed him saying "or ANY string for that matter" when talking about the worn grommets

Anyhow its pretty clear that zx isnt a viable option for you especially if you can't understand how worn grommets can be a bad thing for any string...
LOL I understand perfectly BUT what YOU don't want to admit is that a little bit worn grommet CAN break ZX. And NOT a normal poly. ;)
 

Shroud

Talk Tennis Guru
LOL I understand perfectly BUT what YOU don't want to admit is that a little bit worn grommet CAN break ZX. And NOT a normal poly. ;)
He said damaged or missing and that needs to be replaced for any string

Anyhow I have no problems admitting that poly is more durable than zx

It's a shame though that you can't admit that your comment:

" If I have to replace all the grommets before stringing ZX.That is DEFINITELY a way too much complicate string!!!"

Doesn't reflect what was actually said in the vid...
 

liftordie

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He said damaged or missing and that needs to be replaced for any string

Anyhow I have no problems admitting that poly is more durable than zx

It's a shame though that you can't admit that your comment:

" If I have to replace all the grommets before stringing ZX.That is DEFINITELY a way too much complicate string!!!"

Doesn't reflect what was actually said in the vid...
I love to exagerate. :)
But if he talks directly about that at the start, it is because he really knows how ZX is fragile......... Too much fragile. ;)
 
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