Amazing Parallels - Federer vs. Sampras 2001 and Dimitrov vs. Federer 2013

BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
In 2001, Grand Slam record holder and GOAT Sampras meets for the first time an up and coming prodigy named Federer 10 years his junior during a declining lackluster year towards the end of his career on his home turf at Wimbledon. Federer had idolized Sampras and even modeled his game and equipment after Sampras. Both wore Nike clothes/shoes and played with Wilson ProStaffs.

In 2013, Grand Slam record holder and GOAT Federer meets for the first time an up and coming prodigy named Dimitrov 10 years his junior during a declining lackluster year towards the end of his career on his home turf at Basel. Dimitrov had idolized Federer and even modeled his game and equipment after Federer. Both wore Nike clothes/shoes and played with Wilson BLX ProStaffs.

Notice I underlined "turf" for Sampras because it was played on grass ("turf") and having won 7 Wimbledons, Centre Court was indeed Sampras's "home turf". And for Federer, I underlined "home" because Basel is Federer's home town where he grew up playing tennis and was a ballboy so Basel is indeed Federer's "home turf".

And to top it off, guess who the chair umpire was for BOTH matches? Yup, the SAME umpire! None other than the one and only Mohammed Lahyani. He had the honor of being the umpire and witness to both historical matches sitting in the chair.

Eerie, isn't it? So many similarities and parallels. :)
 
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90's Clay

Banned
Except Dimitrov is a clown of epic proportions. Most knew Federer/Sampras were destined for some greatness.
 

10is

Professional
As much as I would love for that artificially constructed comparision to be true - sadly it's absolutely invalid and preposterous to boot.

Sampras/Federer:

Tournament: Wimbledon (The World's Premier Tennis Tournament)
Federer: 19 y/o, #15 Seed
Sampras: 29 y/o, #1 Seed, Defending Champion
Result: Federer won a well-contested 5-set match

Federer/Dimitrov:

Tournament: Basel, ATP-500 (non-mandatory, depleted field) Event
Dimitrov: 22 y/o, Ranked #22
Federer: 32 y/o, Ranked #7, Non-Defending Champion
Result: Dimitrov lost a poorly-contested 2 set match
 
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Sid_Vicious

G.O.A.T.
Um not really,did you not read Agassi's book? Sampras was hopeless,predicted to never amount to anything,and then he won the US Open...

That was when Sampras was like 17. Sampras was a grand slam champion when he was only 19 years old and pretty much drew attention towards himself quicker than Federer or Dimitrov. 90sclay's comment still stands.
 

Backspin1183

Talk Tennis Guru
LOL when Dimitrov does something significant like beat a top 4 player in a slam or win a Masters 1000, let me know. He most probably will do it once in his career.
 

ilovetennis212

Professional
Nice observing BP.
But this...
In 2001
Sampras didn't know he was going to lose to federer in 4R before the match. And federer didn't think he can win against Sampras.
But..
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Today
Federer knew he was going to win against dimitrov in QF before match. And dimitrov knew he was going to lose to federer.

Both didn't play their best game.
But federer handled better of playing against young version of himself in mirror.
Dimitrov choke so many times of playing more experienced himself in mirror.
 
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KineticChain

Hall of Fame
In 2001, Grand Slam record holder and GOAT Sampras meets for the first time an up and coming prodigy named Federer 10 years his junior during a declining lackluster year towards the end of his career on his home turf at Wimbledon. Federer had idolized Sampras and even modeled his game and equipment after Sampras. Both wore Nike clothes/shoes and played with Wilson ProStaffs.

In 2013, Grand Slam record holder and GOAT Federer meets for the first time an up and coming prodigy named Dimitrov 10 years his junior during a declining lackluster year towards the end of his career on his home turf at Basel. Dimitrov had idolized Federer and even modeled his game and equipment after Federer. Both wore Nike clothes/shoes and played with Wilson BLX ProStaffs.

Notice I underlined "turf" for Sampras because it was played on grass ("turf") and having won 7 Wimbledons, Centre Court was indeed Sampras's "home turf". And for Federer, I underlined "home" because Basel is Federer's home town where he grew up playing tennis and was a ballboy so Basel is indeed Federer's "home turf".

And to top it off, guess who the chair umpire was for BOTH matches? Yup, the SAME umpire! None other than the one and only Mohammed Lahyani. He had the honor of being the umpire and witness to both historical matches sitting in the chair.

Eerie, isn't it? So many similarities and parallels. :)

You're trying way too hard to see something that isn't there
 

BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
Nice observing BP.
But this...
In 2001
Sampras didn't know he was going to lose to federer in 4R before the match. And federer didn't think he can win against Sampras.
But..
--------------------
Today
Federer knew he was going to win against dimitrov in QF before match. And dimitrov knew he was going to lose to federer.

Both didn't play their best game.
But federer handled better of playing against young version of himself in mirror.
Dimitrov choke so many times of playing more experienced himself in mirror.
I disagree about the highlighted part. Given the way Dimitrov played against Stepanek and Dolgopolov and his win last week in Stockholm, I thought he should beat Federer as long as he didn't choke, and I think Dimitrov also thought he had a good chance to win.

As far as Federer, I think he knows that these days he could lose to anyone at any time. He barely pulled out his last match against Istomin.
 

10is

Professional
Many commentators over the years have referred to Centre Court at Wimbledon as Sampras's "home" or "home court" or "home turf". And Basel is literally Federer's "home turf".

Center Court is Federer's metaphorical "home turf" as much as it is Sampras's. Honestly BreakPoint, you're better than this. You're hammering a square peg into a round hole and trying to manufacture some sort of symbolic link where non exists.
 

BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
Center Court is Federer's metaphorical "home turf" as much as it is Sampras's. Honestly BreakPoint, you're better than this. You're hammering a square peg into a round hole and trying to manufacture some sort of symbolic link where non exists.
How could Centre Court have been Federer's "home turf" in 2001? :confused:
 

10is

Professional
How could Centre Court have been Federer's "home turf" in 2001? :confused:

:lol:

Now you're just playing semantic games. It wasn't in 2001, but it certainly is in 2013. Hence, in 2013, Center Court can easily be deemed Federer's metaphorical home turf as it was Sampras's in 2001. ;)
 

Bobby Jr

G.O.A.T.
I disagree about the highlighted part. Given the way Dimitrov played against Stepanek and Dolgopolov and his win last week in Stockholm, I thought he should beat Federer as long as he didn't choke, and I think Dimitrov also thought he had a good chance to win.
While he has played some nice tennis as of late that pretty much meant an average day was overdue.

He was just outdone by someone who knew how to not give him the big swinging opportunities so he had to press a little too much. Federer kept the backhand duels mostly deep and not too wide in the court - waiting until the one he could step around and hit a forehand on. Dimitrov's lack of acumen showed there - he struggled to get onto his own good wing and, when he tried, he overcooked a few at key moments.

I find it interesting that the patterns of play Federer still plays undoes so many other players so effortlessly even when he's playing pretty averagely. What worked for Dimitrov vs Ferrer and Dolgopolov and others was negated by an under-par Federer simply by him knowing where Dimitrov was slightly uncomfortable.
 

Rhino

Legend
As much as I would love for that artificially constructed comparision to be true - sadly it's absolutely invalid and preposterous to boot.

Sampras/Federer:

Tournament: Wimbledon (The World's Premier Tennis Tournament)
Federer: 19 y/o, #15 Seed
Sampras: 29 y/o, #1 Seed, Defending Champion
Result: Federer won a well-contested 5-set match

Federer/Dimitrov:

Tournament: Basel, ATP-500 (non-mandatory, depleted field) Event
Dimitrov: 22 y/o, Ranked #22
Federer: 32 y/o, Ranked #7, Non-Defending Champion
Result: Dimitrov lost a poorly-contested 2 set match

True. People so badly want an "incredible" story that they get carried away at any opportunity.

Don't get me wrong, this match was interesting but it will be just another unremarkable forgotten tennis match within days.
 

MichaelNadal

Bionic Poster
In 2001, Grand Slam record holder and GOAT Sampras meets for the first time an up and coming prodigy named Federer 10 years his junior during a declining lackluster year towards the end of his career on his home turf at Wimbledon. Federer had idolized Sampras and even modeled his game and equipment after Sampras. Both wore Nike clothes/shoes and played with Wilson ProStaffs.

In 2013, Grand Slam record holder and GOAT Federer meets for the first time an up and coming prodigy named Dimitrov 10 years his junior during a declining lackluster year towards the end of his career on his home turf at Basel. Dimitrov had idolized Federer and even modeled his game and equipment after Federer. Both wore Nike clothes/shoes and played with Wilson BLX ProStaffs.

Notice I underlined "turf" for Sampras because it was played on grass ("turf") and having won 7 Wimbledons, Centre Court was indeed Sampras's "home turf". And for Federer, I underlined "home" because Basel is Federer's home town where he grew up playing tennis and was a ballboy so Basel is indeed Federer's "home turf".

And to top it off, guess who the chair umpire was for BOTH matches? Yup, the SAME umpire! None other than the one and only Mohammed Lahyani. He had the honor of being the umpire and witness to both historical matches sitting in the chair.

Eerie, isn't it? So many similarities and parallels. :)

Wow, and we're supposed to be crazy? You guys have really lost it this year. No kidding.
 

BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
:lol:

Now you're just playing semantic games. It wasn't in 2001, but it certainly is in 2013. Hence, in 2013, Center Court can easily be deemed Federer's metaphorical home turf as it was Sampras's in 2001. ;)
You do understand that it was back during the 2001 match that they referred to Centre Court as Sampras's "home turf", right? So in 2001, it was Sampras's "home turf", not Federer's.
 
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Laurie

Guest
In 2001, Grand Slam record holder and GOAT Sampras meets for the first time an up and coming prodigy named Federer 10 years his junior during a declining lackluster year towards the end of his career on his home turf at Wimbledon. Federer had idolized Sampras and even modeled his game and equipment after Sampras. Both wore Nike clothes/shoes and played with Wilson ProStaffs.

In 2013, Grand Slam record holder and GOAT Federer meets for the first time an up and coming prodigy named Dimitrov 10 years his junior during a declining lackluster year towards the end of his career on his home turf at Basel. Dimitrov had idolized Federer and even modeled his game and equipment after Federer. Both wore Nike clothes/shoes and played with Wilson BLX ProStaffs.

Notice I underlined "turf" for Sampras because it was played on grass ("turf") and having won 7 Wimbledons, Centre Court was indeed Sampras's "home turf". And for Federer, I underlined "home" because Basel is Federer's home town where he grew up playing tennis and was a ballboy so Basel is indeed Federer's "home turf".

And to top it off, guess who the chair umpire was for BOTH matches? Yup, the SAME umpire! None other than the one and only Mohammed Lahyani. He had the honor of being the umpire and witness to both historical matches sitting in the chair.

Eerie, isn't it? So many similarities and parallels. :)

You make me laugh because you get carried away so often. You're energy is fun :)
 

BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
With a single 250 title at nearly 23, Dimitrov is an up and coming prodigy?
"Nearly 23"? Dimitrov only just turned 22 five months ago. How many other players who just turned 22 this year have won an ATP Tour singles title?
 
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