An abridged transcript of an extensive interview with former player and coach Jose Higueras.

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Semi-Pro
TS - What did you lack to win Roland Garros, Jose?



JH - I was not a gifted player. I was aware of that when I was playing with some players who were much more adept than me and who I beat, at least mindful of most of them. I wasn't that good an athlete either. So, what I did was to go as high as I could. What I did was through will and desire.



Also, until late in my career, I barely played on fast surfaces, so they did not force me to understand the game any other way. In '80, I married an American girl, came to live in the U.S., and started training on cement all the time. In Palm Springs, there were no red clay courts. If I had made that change on purpose about five years earlier, my chances of winning in Paris would have been greater. I would get to the quarterfinals and semifinals at RG, but I would always run into someone who demanded a bit more of my game.



As a coach, my experience came in handy. I served better, and I understood how to play on the net. I insisted that my students play on all surfaces because each one teaches them how to do something well. In the old days, you had no choice but to have a good backhand slice and be able to serve and volley decently. Now, things have changed a lot because of the homogenization of the playing conditions, and you play almost the same everywhere.



As far as my training was concerned, I had no coach or physical trainer. I trained to the point of physical and psychological exhaustion, and it was very monotonous but without a complete or direct goal. Not necessarily will I be better at tennis training for more hours. I became increasingly aware of that as my career ended. I only set apparent aspects to perfection once I was over 25 (born in 1953). That's why that's precisely the only thing I ask of my students to fully engage in whatever we work on.



TS - Tell me about three greats you played against: Borg, Vilas, and Connors.



JH - Borg and Vilas had a game that was very familiar to me. Connors was a very different player. Borg is the only player I played, knowing I couldn't beat him. I had no way to destabilize him. I would play to see how long I could extend the match. We played the same game, but he was physically stronger than me by far, and his ball was heavier, so we played the best of 3 sets for about two and a half hours, but the score was a beating. If you played Borg on clay and the ball went over the net 3 or 4 times, your chances of winning the point were tiny unless you were a serve-and-volley player, preventing any rhythm in the match with Borg. You could not just return the ball to Borg; the return had to be fast-paced.



Guillermo was a step below Borg, and I had opportunities to destabilize him by luring him to the net. I could stay with him even though he was superior to me. He missed a little more.



Connors was a good matchup for me. He missed more than the previous two players, and I could induce his errors. I had a decent and solid backhand slice, which I repeated to his forehand. He had an excellent high forehand but little mobility when hitting low balls. But you have to always take advantage of these weaknesses that have players two steps above. Otherwise, they will beat you as it is natural. Whether you can beat them, I would sum it up in how you measure yourself with their game that day, not their character.



Now, let's be clear that despite being realistic and knowing I could not beat Borg, I would not go out on the court and have Borg have his exhibition with me. I would have Borg on the court as long as possible.



Sometimes, playing matches against certain players, I would win the first three games, and the battle was over. I felt it in the opponent, but I played with as much psychic and physical concentration as if I were playing against one of the best in the world.



TS - But, José, would you give the players that advice?



JH - Definitely! When you leave yourself in the hands of a player you can't beat, you lose that game, and you will play half of the next one. That message is fundamental for children, teenagers, and your students. On the circuit, everybody talks, and everybody knows everybody. Sometimes, playing matches against certain players, I'd win the first three games, and the battle was over. I felt it in the opponent, but I played with as much psychic and physical concentration as if I were playing against one of the very best in the world.


Eleven months ago:





TS - Jose, you retired in 1987, and the circuit changed remarkably. There were new champions (Becker, Edberg). Was their mentality the same as all the previous ones you knew, Jose? Did they share the same qualities? I don't care about the times, eh?



JH - A champion is a champion in any era. They have innate qualities, and they are non-negotiable. They must compete at the highest level, a non-negotiable point (interrupted).



TS - Could you explain, José?



JH - Champions are always looking for a better present state. Their satisfaction with an outstanding achievement is relatively short-lived. They constantly seek, seek, seek. With more outside and inside help. If we look at Wilander when he first won the French Open, and we looked at him when he became world number one, he was a different player. He could serve and volley, with good volleys and a backhand slice that didn't exist when he won in Paris as a teenager. Rafa is the same as Wilander. Borg ended up serving and volleying at Wimbledon with his two serves. Guillermo improved his volleys enormously. They can block outside interference, and they have such confidence in themselves that the most complex things they have worked on in training come out ideally in competition when they need them; while in training, they may have lost sets playing the best they can against people who are far below them in the ranking, but the latter, when they go out to compete in big courts, fall apart.



TS - Grips: At what age do you stop changing grips, Jose?



JH - I suffered from that issue.



I touch the grips as little as possible. And the better or older the player, the more reluctant I am to change a grip.



When I was 18 years old, I went to play in the Orange Bowl. I was one of the best juniors in the world and played everything with Continental. I won the Orange Bowl and went back to Barcelona.



In the Orange Bowl, I met two South African tennis players who hit some very aggressive topspin, and I was facing some very high balls on my backhand that I was having difficulty controlling. Lew Hoad, one of my heroes, had lived in Spain for years. When I saw Lew for the first time back in Spain, I told him: "Lew, I'm going to change my grip. I'm going to go from continental to semi-western." And Lew said, "You're crazy." I asked him why, and he told me I would probably never put another ball on the court. But because I'm pretty stubborn, I changed my grip. And for fifteen months, I stopped playing, and my habit was playing for eight hours daily. Against the wall, with the ball machine, against anyone. And I thought Lew was right. And I considered abandoning the idea of being a professional tennis player and limiting myself to teaching. Fortunately, my mother realized what was happening to me and, showing her concern for me, spoke to me, "Son, you've worked so hard to become a pro that I think you should give yourself a few more months to see if you achieve your goal." And the little ball went inside the boundaries of the court.



Of course, unlearning the sensitivity you've gained on one hand and developing a new one, an almost entirely different one, took me from a lousy state of mind to a great one. I then asked Lew: "How do you hold the racquet? "Eh, I don't know! If I play on grass, I grip it more here; if I play on clay, my grip closes a little more... And he went on. I mean, it was fascinating. [Laughs]
 
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TS - Jose, many coaches say: "If you didn't play as a pro, what are you going to bring to the player?" We are talking about the professional tour.



JH - They have proven that there are coaches who, without having been pros, are excellent professionals. And I will not lie by saying otherwise. Now, if you, a player, are going to play in the Wimbledon final and you have a choice between two coaches, one who has played in a Wimbledon final and one who has not played in Wimbledon, which one would you choose? Possibly I would go for the one who has played a final there. But from there, to say that someone who has not been a professional cannot be an excellent coach is a long way. There is so much information... And with so much information available now, young coaches get a wealth of information thanks to technology, but not in a more manual way.


For example, 20 years ago, many coaches were coming in and wanting to see what I was doing, and I was spending time with them, etc., etc., etc. I got a little out of the question. I insist on what I said.

TS - And what they do is they bring in a consultant, a former player.

JH - Well, that's the way I have always worked. Since I started coaching, I have worked with another coach. I discovered why I had that need by chance. If I'm fully committed to a player when I've been with him for three weeks, I run out of things to say to him. If the coach we work with goes with the player to 3 or 4 tournaments and he returns, he is fresh again. From my point of view, it is a good working formula.


TS - Jose, I was at the Chatrier when Courier beat Agassi in '91. When you deal with a Chang, a Courier, or a Federer, how do you approach things?

JH - Well, the more you train and the older you get, the more crucial experience becomes. With players of that level, you have to be careful with the information you give because they know a lot about tennis. So, I go slowly and try to talk a lot about tennis with them. What will not happen is that my first comment to Sampras is, "Hey, Pete, with your first serve, we're going to try to..." It would be best if you were confident that the information you're conveying is correct. So, in the beginning, the best information is often the one you don't say.


TS - Sorry, Jose, does the player realize how much you know about tennis?

JH - But obviously! Let's see, we are human and all like to talk. It's more essential to tell him one thing that the player has never heard or thought than to bombard him with ten analyses; if you do the latter, the player will doubt you. However, I will drive that car much more if I am with a poor player.


With Roger, we talked a lot about tennis and watched many videos: matches on clay, grass, everything! Then you see him win a match 6-1, 6-1, and you realize that something is not working as it should. As soon as you see him, you say: "Hey, this is not working well. What will you teach Roger, or Rafa, any player of that stature? What do you think if we do a few repetitions?"

TS - And what do you do with players who are very talented but whose game is messed up? Sometimes because they have too many weapons at their disposal.

JH - There are some who you won't be able to sort out their game. So many of those players are more driven by their tennis instincts than by what is paramount at that moment because that tennis instinct and talent sometimes do not allow them to see the problems they have in front of them.


So, you have Roger and Rafa. Rafa's game is a lot easier to organize; in the sense that he can maintain patterns and ideas that you have suggested to him for a lot longer. Whereas Roger is going to do most of the time what he feels the game situations ask him to do. So to what extent can you force him to do something other than what he feels? It's something that I think about constantly. To what extent can I help him get more out of the talent that he has without hurting that innate gift? That's why it's so important to get to know the players as well as you can.

TS - There's a lot of talk about Shapovalov now. Of the imperative need for order in his game.

JH - And probably those who say that are right. If I try to play like Federer but I lose too many matches, maybe I'm trying to play like someone who is not like me. When I watch Shapovalov, I have the same impression. I mean, this is a game of mistakes. It will always be a game of mistakes. Were his mistakes made despite making the right decisions, or were they wrong decisions? It's a question of the player's understanding. If you put him in the same situation ten times and he misses eight times, either he is not very smart, or he has to learn to wait and create a high-margin situation before trying to win the point.

This reminds me of my time as a player. Sometimes I would play a match, and my opponent would hit some unrealistic shots that would go in. And I would be thrilled because they were such unrealistic, low percentage shots. Then, if they really wanted to do that, I was delighted! Tennis is a game of mistakes, whichever way you look at it.
 

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TS- When and how did you start playing, Jose?

When I was growing up [born in 1953], the best tennis players in Spain were almost all ball boys. That's how I started, working in '61 at the Real Club de Tenis Barcelona as a ball boy. And there, with the help of very good people and help from the club, I started to play. That was my first job, as was Manuel Orantes' and Santana's. May he rest in peace. So I had luck and help from very good people. Nowadays, ball boys go to school; in the past, ball boys were kids who could do nothing else. My story is familiar. Santana and Orantes had very similar lives. And I, as well as Orantes and Santana, have tremendous gratitude for the sport of tennis, which was very good to us.

TS - What about your parents and siblings?

JH—I was born in Granada (Andalusia), a small town. My father and mother worked on a ranch, which may explain my love for the countryside and horses. My family was very needy and poor, so I started working at a very young age, when I was eight.

TS - So you learned tennis by watching people play it?

JH- Club members usually would give us racquets they were no longer using. We would also make paddles out of solid fruit crates, trying to make them work as racquetball paddles. There was a gentleman in the club, may he rest in peace, who is the man I have seen work best for kids, and from him, I got many ideas on how to work with kids, use progressions, etc. I was a ball boy for many Davis Cup ties with Santana—a little different apprenticeship than the kids at present.

TS - Years later, you were world number 6 in 1983; you beat some great players. How does playing back-to-back against Connors and Vilas at the Chatrier feel? I saw the stands full.

JH - A few years ago, I met Mats Wilander at the airport; he lives in Idaho. We were chatting, and I asked him, "Mats, how are you coping with retirement?" And he replied, "Jose, I haven't found that high again. No matter what I do." The high he felt when he played, that feeling, the excitement, "no matter what I do." It was fascinating to talk to Mats—the experience of playing and competing in front of big audiences. I'm very grateful to have done it, even though to a much lesser extent than Mats.

TS - Look, Jose, one day I had a considerable discussion that ended in a fight with a former top-15 player who told me: "You're crazy; defense is not trained; it's something natural. The tennis player always has to attack.

JH - Let's go back. Some tennis players feel that defending is inherent to them, and others must work on it more. You can't always attack because your opponent also plays, and you will have to face complicated situations in which you are on the defensive. But as in everything, there are parameters. If you are pushed back or laterally and diagonally, and as a result, you lose time, how do you find it again? I've trained that with every player I've worked with. Now, you will not find someone who defends like Rafa because, for him, defending is spontaneous and intuitive. Winning points by defending is a source of pride for him, and he knows that winning points when he is on the ropes intimidates his opponents. That mindset of his in defense, perhaps, can't be taught. No matter how good an attacker you are, when you play against good enough players, they will expose your deficiencies, either in your mood, technique, or both.

TS - Is an exceptional stroke still enough to reach the top?

JH - I don't think so. Many people on the circuit had terrible shots in the past. Nowadays, almost everybody serves well; some serve better, and others even better, but nearly everybody will get aces and freebies. Everyone has a pretty good forehand. Backhands are not bad, and there is no shortage of good and excellent ones. With a good forehand, you can't survive anymore. You are already a step up with a good serve, forehand, and backhand. But professional tennis demands more and more from you.

TS - Is the backhand slice lost art?

JH - The sliced backhand is a lost art because people have lost the skill to execute it. I am a fan of the slice backhand.

TS - But should we teach it to students?

JH - Absolutely! You will usually develop a good backhand volley if you have a good backhand slice. It's as essential a shot to me as the net game. Players shoot much harder nowadays, making it harder to go to the net, but you can play more there, and you should; it's another form of pressure, and that should be reason enough to do it.
But you will have to make better choices when going to the net.

When Djokovic played against Medvedev in Paris served & volleyed 28 times.

TS - Jose, how much do you talk to the champions before the matches?

JH - I believe in the player's independence. I have never told a tennis player: "Hey, when you are returning at 30 all do a such-and-such thing." If I give him that rigid direction and he fails, I will be the one to blame. I make sure that he understands the information I give him and why I believe that this and that in certain situations will be more helpful. Now, if in three or four matches, he makes the same mistake given the same match situation; then I will reinforce my authority in that direction.

This is done less now, but it was done more in the past. There was more coaching on the court, on almost every point. If the player doesn't feel the timing right during a match, we will both be aware of it, and I will try to help them, but, mostly, I usually give those directions to them when I don't know how they feel on the court. So, again, I want to provide them with as much freedom of choice as possible according to their level as a player.

TS- Jose, I saw you play on clay against players of your generation and younger. You would serve, and then, except for Mcenroe and Noah, you would follow up, getting to the point. Today, the pros want to win the point with their serve or dictate play from the first ball, even on clay.

JH - They play at top speeds. It is technology. It was almost inconceivable with wooden racquets and gut to create shots like those produced by today's players. With today's strings, it's challenging to make a complex shot go out of bounds [both laugh]. They are very forgiving racquets and strings. And that's very attractive to our fans, but that comes at a price. There's so little time to play that tactics disappear. Why don't people go to the net, or are they afraid to bring someone to the net with their backhand slice? Because there is no time to play.

They can go to the net with a backhand slice approach that gets the ball under 2 inches off the ground and score a few points. Still, if you do it regularly, with this technology available to us, a good professional player will pass you relentlessly. Today's players are creating impossible shots thanks to technology. This technological revolution has had another consequence. With slight nuances, all players have the same style and game. In the seventies and eighties, we players were very little alike. We had different styles, although we were worse athletes, no doubt.

TS—Where are we going, Jose? Will we play even faster, or will this trend be reversed?

JH - It could be done, but we won't see it. As in all high-competition sports, we will keep moving forward. Speed fascinates us. Well, I think we see good tennis. This technological revolution has not hurt women's tennis.
 
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Truly, thank you for translating and posting... interesting and so informative. He is such a balanced and knowledgeable voice , and a great player.
The best read that I have seen in some time. Again, your efforts are so appreciated with this posting.
 

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TS - Hey, Jose, do you watch tennis of yesteryear, do you watch tennis of today? Do you like to read or ride horses, as you told me?

JH - I have a good mix of everything.

TS - Late 80's and early 90's, Pete's era, an extraordinary era (interrupted by Jose).

JH - It was an outstanding group of tennis players: Pete, Chang, Andre, Jim, Martin, and David Wheaton; there were exceptional young players in those days.

TS - Later, you will tell us about all your work at the USTA, which goes back in time. What tennis did you see at the USO22?

JH - Tremendous tennis; honestly, I hadn't been to a tournament since last year, I went to IW, but I only watched a little tennis.

I was positively surprised by the quality of the young guys, especially the quality of the average player. There are no easy rounds. Excellent players have to play well in the first three rounds to move on, and in my time as a player and even a bit later was a bit different. At least in my day, the top ten players got through the first two rounds of the slams by playing practice.

You could get a tougher draw, but in a pretty high % they were very affordable matches for the top-ranked players. Nowadays, the average player is much better. The same thing is happening in golf.

TS - Women's tennis has improved (Higueras interrupts him).

22 sept 2022:


This one lasts eighty minutes, and I have a good time watching it because I almost know it by heart, and it amuses and teaches me a lot. I could not transcribe as much as I wanted, not even close. I'll be happy to post more.

JH - Yes, it is in the right direction. For me, at least the way I see tennis, it has to be played on all parts of the court. A very high percentage of women's tennis is played from the baseline, which is an inhospitable place to win points with a significant margin against your opponent. Most female players are doubles of a single player. And that's very interesting for you to work with very young people.

Everyone wants to hit the ball hard, but we remember Ashleigh Barty. In women's tennis, they don't hit enough drop shots and the backhand slice we hardly get a chance to see it because they haven't been taught those shots; the same goes for the air game (the net game in Spanish), which is as important a form of pressure as any other. But you see more and more players and a very young girl, Coco Gauff, from time to time made a serve and volley and just as often a drop shot. Maybe still needs to be a quality one, but she is 18. A primary goal of any young player is to be comfortable with her game in as many parts of the court as possible, and women's tennis can make a lot of progress in that regard.

The player's comfort in the different parts of the court depends a little bit on each game. Each player has his or her so-called neutral, which can be 6 or 7 feet behind the baseline; it depends on how he or she sees the ball coming or the feeling he or she has to play in the case of a particular type of player.

Federer's neutral is different from Rafa's neutral. At the beginning of his career, Agassi's neutral was to be well inside the court. When he started to play with the help of Brad Gilbert, he started to adjust his neutral and ended up improving a lot. The neutral position has to allow you to be offensive and defend against your opponents.

What is interesting now is that there are a lot of diagonal attacks. They immediately counter or defend attacks yet to come. They try to be as offensive as they can.

Pancho Segura, one of my idols and an incredible tactician, told me that working on adjusting the steps and the length and timing of the swings between the part of the service box closest to the baseline were paramount. That's where players, pros or not, get caught up the most.


TS - And how do we train our performance in that part of the court?

JH - In tennis, you play 1 or 2 shots ahead, from my point of view. When I hit the ball, I have to know the effect it will have on the opponent. If I hit a shot that I know will hurt my opponent from my neutral position, I have to leave it even if the ball is returned to me short because the distance, almost certainly from my location, will still be too long to reach it and be effective. Then, the steps need to be clarified. But let's suppose that I can gauge the effect of my first shot beforehand and adopt the correct position to be effective against the ball that will be returned to me.

. And if the opponent's ball does not arrive as I expected, I keep playing.

Great players know or feel the consequences of that one or even two shots in advance. And here, the way you feel the game is essential. A paradigmatic example of what I am trying to explain is Alcaraz. That's why he can go to the net a lot more than players his age even though he is so young. That's the reason he can do it. I'm trying to explain myself well.

It's a ladder; if you skip a rung to attack the net, you're bound to fall. If you make a perfect defensive shot from well back, it will allow you to advance somewhat toward the net if you know how to read the effect it has on your opponent because if you get to your neutral position, you can try to achieve an offensive position. These are the steps you take until you reach the net. But you must recognize the effect your shot has on your opponent and how he will react to it if you want to take the net.


TS - Having played against so many talented players, who would you say (giving him the physique and so on) would be in the top 3 of the ranking today?

JH - Mcenroe. Mcenroe was always a step or two ahead of you. He created a tremendous burden on you. If we look at today's tennis, his look-alike would be Federer. Taking time away from you with no pause. But for me, Mcenroe was a prodigy in how he felt the time and his shots. And as I say, he was a nightmare. I remember watching him play against Lendl in New York at Madison Square Garden in '82 or '83. Lendl hits a first-serve bomb, Mcenroe makes a good impact with the ball, and he's at the net.
 
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TS - Was there a before and after Agassi in the game due to how quickly he successfully hit the ball after the bounce?


JH - As I said before: there was a time when playing against Andre wasn't so difficult. You had to withstand his first two shots. There were a lot of half-volleys and many low-percentage shots. Thanks to Brad Gilbert, gradually, Andre started to come out of the baseline in a better position and became a much better tennis player. Connors adjusted his shots better than Agassi. Agassi was not such a dominant player before because of his lack of flexibility in his opponents' ball bounce.

TS - "Hit the ball on the rise," "hit the ball on the rise," and the youngsters hit half volleys with discouraging results.

JH - It is understood that half-volleys are low-percentage shots. I think they are shots you will resort to when you have no other choice.
It's a complicated subject that is part of the player's feelings that you have to know, and I will guide the player as to when he can resort to half-volleys as I get to know him.

TS - What did you think of Rios?

JH - A phenomenon. Well, Marcelo had some of the best hands I've ever seen for tennis. You can't teach anyone to play like Marcelo, Mcenroe, or Roger. Still, you can teach them to maximize their intrinsic qualities because they can never feel the game like those players, but they will get higher than some of those chosen ones.

TS - We see professionals all the time who move from positions away from the baseline to offensive positions with one hard-hit shot.
In your time, they used to resort more to the lob and the sliced to recover ground.

JH - JH - When I was working with the USTA, we used to send a small group of juniors to South America every year in February. One of our coaches said to me: "Hey, Jose, I've seen Juan Carlos Ferrero working with a fourteen-year-old boy. They spend four hours a day running and hitting the ball very hard. " What do I mean by this? That what he saw just didn't come out, but because of all the previous work. Tennis is primarily a sport of dynamic balance, and you have to work on this continuously by putting the kids in situations where they have to look to be well balanced in reaction to the shots that come their way. Grips and static exercises are of less interest to me than the former.

TS - Did you talk much with the players you've coached when a player didn't feel he was playing well?

JH - Absolutely! That's when you are a coach. And that coaching happens off the court. Nowadays, kids don't talk enough about tennis. We didn't have the technology, and we learned by watching tennis and talking. I learned more by winning matches playing badly than by winning easily.

TS - I was asking you because of the much talked about concept of the one-slam wonder. Hey, Alcaraz could win ten grand slams?

JH - We'll know that in ten years, for sure (laughs). I don't like to predict too much. He has the qualities to win several grand slams. How many? Who knows? He has the weapons to do it, his environment seems stable, and his coach is more than qualified to make him do it. I would have loved to win a grand slam, so I will never say that a slam winner is not a champion.

TS - You were the sixth player in the world.

JH- But I wasn't competing with Roger, Rafa, Novak, and the contemporary players. Who will win a grand slam playing against these three being there? Some people.

TS - Could you tell me about your relationship with Roger as a coach?

JH - When he called me, he was coming off mono, and when you have mono... the other day, I told Toni Nadal and other people about it. I have always been called by people who had been suffering from psychological suffering or painful injuries for a long time, like Carlos Moya, a nasty back injury, with Sergi Bruguera, the same kind of problem in other parts of the body, with Guillermo Coria, he didn't have an injury, but he was very depressed. Then, I don't know why, with Pete, who I already knew as a youngster in the USTA, the same thing happened to me.

People would ask me, "hey, Jose, did Roger hire you to play on clay?" If someone offered me a job exclusively to improve his game on clay,
I wouldn't accept it. I am a tennis coach, and I am confident in my skills in tennis.

Well, we worked, we worked, and when he worked up to his standard of play, it was at the USO. From that moment on, he had excellent tournaments or matches and very significant drops in his game according to his level. In the USO, he completely recovered.

I also told Toni Nadal that I had made two mistakes in my life as a coach. I have been aware of when a cycle with a player is over. One mistake: Carlos Moya. I have always worked with the USTA, regardless of who I coached, and the USTA had no players that year, so I promised Carlos a year as coach, but I told him that the following year I would have to work with young USTA players. I had a great experience with Carlos, and his family is lovely, and I was sorry to have to end it.
The other one was with Roger! He won the USO. The USTA had been after me for six months to take over the development program with Patrick McEnroe. But as I know, the federations and there are politics, and so I've never had a permanent job with the USTA. They assured me that we were going to have time and that's why I made the decision to work with Roger. Those are the two significant failures in my career.

TS - What did you see that Roger didn't do well?

JH - Well, when I talked to Roger, he asked me, "How do you like my tennis"? And I said, "I don't think it's anything special" (laughs). I told him he wasn't going to the net enough because he was a very good volleyer and was missing opportunities. We would talk about this a lot. I told him that on slow surfaces, when he played backhand, especially against Rafa, he stayed somewhere in between. He wouldn't wait for the ball closer to the baseline to attack it with his backhand before the ball rose to a height that left him with no chance to attack, nor would he go far enough back to return it with enough weight to regain his position.

I watched a lot of footage of him, and I didn't see any forehand drop shots, and I passed that on to him. He replied that he opened the court so easily with his forehand that he had never needed to make a drop shot on that side. I replied that you could never have enough weapons. In the USO, in the first rounds, he played poorly, going to the net 5, 6, or 7 times. And, surprisingly, in the semifinal, he went up to the net 38 times and in the final 45 times. What I mean is that in working with players, they assimilate things according to a law they do not necessarily know. And I understand that because, as a player, I didn't like to be told what to do. I did like to be given as much information as possible.

With Roger, I would pull my hair out, "Hey, we've been working on you going to the net more often, and you go up only 5 or 6 times!?" When he started working with Edberg, he went even more to the net than he ever did with me.

TS - If you could help any player today because of your characteristics and knowledge as a coach, who would you choose?

JH - A lot of them. Felix because he is an extraordinary athlete. He serves very well, he has a good forehand. With his physique, he has to go to the net more often. He has a backhand slice, but it doesn't come naturally to him. Shapavalov, I would like to see him play with the order he needs. Carlos, but he has an outstanding maestro and doesn't need anyone. Zverev, Medvedev and Tsitsipas. They can improve. As long as they will let themselves be helped. This means that mental and physical commitment is non-negotiable.

TS - What about women's tennis, where you don't see a moderately stable hierarchy?

JH - Maybe I won't see again soon players as dominant as Graf, Martina, Serena, Seles, Evert, etc. I think it has something to do with the standardization of playing conditions, and, therefore how the game is played. With Barty retired, there is no more prolonged excellence in any sliced shot in the circuit. There are no players who do not have that urge to hit every shot as hard as they can all the time [despite being a very serene person, his facial expression gives the impression that he does not enjoy too much ballbashing as a style of play]. The search for situations and positions in which the opponent is uncomfortable... There is a little bit of that missing in women's tennis. I think a player will soon arrive who plays with power but also following a lot more of her feeling for the different situations of the game and not only being aware of hitting hard, which is how most of them play.

Ons Jabeur plays completely differently from the others. There will come a player like her, who will possess a little more strength and will be the best chance, our best chance, for someone to dominate women's tennis for years to come.

TS - How many years did you work at the USTA, Jose?

JH - I started working with them in '89. The first two players I worked with were Pete and Michael Chang. What two players! And then, I always worked with the USTA except for one year here and one year there, but always independently. I never wanted to have a permanent job because, once again, I know how federations work, and when there are politics, the sport loses. When I started the development program with Patrick McEnroe, the first thing I said to him was: "Look, Patrick, I help the players, but I don't want to know anything about the rest of the organization because I know how it works." I met with the president and the incoming president.
 
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Frankc

Professional
Thank you, thank you... for all your efforts.
So much to take and consider here - candid and balanced...
Three of the many for me on our game:
1) I really miss Barty...
2) I love watching Mac from 79 - 81 or so. (I do sense that he lost a half step after 81 or so, imho.) I cannot comprehend his utter quickness, yet now I see/understand more . His point about how Mac anticipated 2 shots ahead and reacted in anticipation/vision partly explains his ridiculous quickness and ever-presence on the offensive...
3) Yes, the absolute respect for Borg... that is echoed in so many of the greats of that era...
 
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I get cramps

Semi-Pro
When I joined the organization, there was nothing. I thought we would work with only the best little guys and girls, but when I came in, there was nothing. The level of knowledge and experience of the coaches was very low. They didn't even know what absorb or serve + 1 was. Then we prepared a very simple teaching and coaching philosophy that all professionals do. Don't think we invented something incredible. We take that all over the country. (Spatz interrupts him)

TS - Excuse me, are you talking about the High Performance Coaching Program?

TS - I graduated in 2001 with that program.

JH - Okay. We graduated 2,500 coaches with the program. Outside of that, with the camps we did in the sections when we brought people into our center, it ended up being ten thousand more coaches.

For example, among the women, the only two we didn't work with were Venus and Serena. The rest of them, Sloane Stephens, went through our programs. We started working with the players as children. With Roger Peckham we started working when he was twelve years old, with Tommy Paul we did the same thing... But something interesting happens at the USTA, they don't want anyone to take credit for anything, so no one knew or knows the work that was done.

You can't train everybody, there are not enough resources. Our job was to take players to a certain point and then put them with a team to continue their careers. In 2017, we put four American girls in the USO semis. I don't know when was the last time there were four American girls in the USO semis.

We had Frances [he pronounces it as Francis, then I'm not sure if he's referring to Tiafoe], Opelka, Noah Rubin, Taylor Fritz, and they won all the slams as juniors plus finalists. That is French Open, champion and finalist, Wimbledon, champion and finalist, and so on. Eduardo Infantino said recently, and I think he is right, two things. One: maybe juniors mature a little later in the US than in other countries, and two: US players don't play abroad enough, and tennis is an international sport.

Since I started working at the USTA, we used to send the players to Spain a month and a half before the junior competition in Paris when the boys and girls were fourteen and fifteen years old. They would train there, play a few futures and go to Paris.
We suffered some rejection for that approach. As the results proved us right, the rejection diminished.

TS - Now there are a very large number of American players in the top 100.

JH - I read a study the other day that when American players get into the top 100 and 200 ATP rankings 50% of these players will get into the top 100 ATP rankings. That's a good number.

The most important thing is that coaching has improved greatly and so has the technology at our disposal. You don't have to go to different places in person anymore. When we started, we were a couple of coaches and I and we went everywhere. And people would say to me, "Hey, Jose, it's amazing that you're here with us working with twelve-year-olds," and that's how we met Tommy Paul and so on.

TS - Were you also doing talent scouting?

JH - Yeah. That lasted seven years, which is what I was afraid of. I told the USTA that we would find ourselves with a job that, the way the country was tennis-wise, would take ten or twelve years. After seven years, we had made a lot of progress, and suddenly the feared change took place. Patrick left, and a new manager came in. We started losing coaches. Jay Berger, who was the head of the men's section left.

TS - Sorry, he decided to leave?

JH - When they made the center in Orlando we were in Boca Raton, and they had a rule that you could only work full-time for them if you lived in Orlando; once again, the political issues. Jay said, "I'm not going to Orlando", and so did I and more coaches. When you lose good coaches, you also lose the time it took and cost you to train them.

They brought in a college coach from Virginia. A disaster! They took all the money we gave to the different sections and gave it to established players. We lost coaching education.

Over the last three years, it's gone back to something similar to what it used to be, but that's roughly the story.

TS - And you worked directly on the court with Tommy, Frances, and the other players you mentioned?

JH - Of course, I would take some of them to my home in Pam Springs for two or three weeks several times a year to work with me. And with the girls, the same: Amanda Anisimova, Madison Keys... Since in the USTA, nobody can take credit for anything, nobody knows anything I tell you (Spatz interrupts him).

TS - Well, that's why we talk (he laughs).

JH - JH - Those guys play well. After they were juniors, they got a little disoriented because maybe they weren't mature enough, they made a little money, and the agents showed up... But I always told them, from the beginning, and I'm pretty clear when I talk about the tennis world: "Hey, but you don't understand that you were better than Tsitsipas" "You were better than these people. The only difference is that they haven't stopped working, and you have done nothing," and it turned out that COVID was good for us. Not being able to play, they worked on their game. That's why I was saying about Frances, Reilly, Tommy, or Taylor that they were better players than other players of their ages who are currently ranked higher.

TS - Did you see Frances at the USO?

JH - Yes.

TS - What is Wayne Ferreira bringing to him?

JH - I got a call a few weeks ago from a man who was the director of our Sports Science, who was doing the education coaching, and he said, "Jose, you were right. You were always telling us 'don't worry about Frances because he has a very good feeling to play his style, with his technical issues, but I have no doubt that he will play well" Frances has a great mental capacity and hir biography helps to explain this. Concerning Wayne, besides what he has added to his tennis game, he has given great stability to a player with great mental capacity. Wayne is well on his way to making Frances stable throughout the duration of matches. In the past, Frances would suddenly play a game or even a whole set where you didn't know what was happening to him mentally. That is disappearing. He continues to play a shocking point here and there. But he's a real pro now, and he plays very well.

TS - Mental capacity is being emotionally stable?

JH - When you play against very good players you can't have a mental slump that will lead you to make poor decisions. You can lose points but not help your opponent because your chances of winning will be slim. Frances is playing at the moment basically the whole match. In the past, he used to get short circuits and lose one, two, three games...

He is serving better. His forehand was destabilized... it's something I tried to correct the time I spent with him; a year and a half, but he didn't want to listen to me.

TS - What was the problem?

JH - A simple but unacceptable one. In loading his forehand, the racquet head goes below his wrist. Now his forehand is a lot better, his racquet head goes straighter backward. If you watch past matches of his and they were looking for his forehand, his shot would break. He didn't have time to put the face of the racquet in front of the ball. This part of his movement has improved a lot, then he is returning a lot better because his gesture is a lot cleaner and shorter.

Wayne has helped him a lot, but I insist without the mental issue, the solution to this deficiency would not be essential.

TS - What do you mean by "feeling to play"?

JH -I don't know if I know how to explain myself. Frances has very good hands. When he is well-positioned he sees the ball very well..., that's what I told you before about playing with an early shot. I do this to do the next thing, and if the ball comes to me where I expect it, I'll be there to execute whatever it is.

Frances takes a lot of balls in the air if he sees his opponent in a hurry. Alcaraz does the same. Everything can be trained, but the "better feeling" you have, the faster and better your progress will be.

TS - Has Kyrgios reached his ceiling as a player? I see a lot of kids in the Academies playing like him and behaving like him.

JH - (Laughs) Kyrgios will go as far as he wants. It has nothing to do with his tennis. He has a big game. With that serve, he could keep playing professionally until he's fifty. Can he be mentally stable for the two weeks until he finishes a grand slam? When there are difficulties, he doesn't seem to be able to, and in a slam, he will always find them. He is a very interesting case. If you say to me, "Hey, Jose, how would you coach Kyrgios? To start with, I would not care about his game; I'm not interested in it. I'm interested in his mind. And I'll ask him the same questions I ask all the players I've worked with. Namely: "What do you want to achieve with your tennis?" And any answer is good. If he says to me: "Hey, look, Jose, what I want is to play well and make money and I have an incredible life...", I would answer: "Perfect, for that you don't need me, but I think it's perfect." However, if he said to me: "Hey, Jose, I want to see how well I can play," the responsibility begins with that answer. The conversation with him, which is precisely the same as I've had with all the players I've worked with before putting a ball on the ground, is where it's at. Some people have the desire, but they also have demons inside that prevent that desire from developing. I'm not a psychologist, but it's a question that fascinates me because I think that's where it all starts.

I would love to sit with Kyrgios for two hours and talk to him.
 
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I get cramps

Semi-Pro
TS - Jose, European men's tennis is dominating the sport. Will that change? Will the US get closer and match them? in South America things are going very badly.

JH - Let's see, I don't think it will happen in the very, very near future, but I have a lot of faith in American players that if they continue on the path of commitment and work... Again, I saw them play against their European counterparts when they were younger, and they were better players than them. Whether they will continue to do what is necessary is unknown to me.

The Europeans, in general, have an advantage regarding their structures and how they train people. They are much more aware of what is essential to play. When we took these guys to Spain (where I chose), they were never given technique lessons. Here in the U.S., that's what they talk about more. "The racquet goes through here." In Spain, above anything else, they teach you how to move and where the ball goes when you move, the best percentages you have. And from there, they put the whole game together for you. And the Europeans are still ahead of us regarding movement as the core of the game.

TS - Do you think too much technique is taught in the U.S.?

JH - From my point of view, yes. Once again, too much technique in all facets of the game. If I am working with a boy or a girl and they tell me: "this boy or girl doesn't cross over," when they recover, I will make them do the crossover. Many times it's a little paralysis by analysis. You can say to a player: "Hey, you direct the racquet back five degrees lower...". In teaching, I am a simplistic person, and I encourage the players to give me answers before I give them solutions. Because if a player gives me an answer to a question of mine, we don't have to go back to what we have discussed because the player has figured it out by himself. If I correct a player I do it once or twice, and the third time I ask him, I ask. "Johnny, what do you think of this thing we've done?" The first time, they look at you with huge eyes, because they're used to always being given the answers.

If I can make a player do what I want, putting him in situations if he does it right, that would be something he will own. If I don't make him responsible for the information that I'm giving to him or her, then the information won't matter. If understandably, they don't give me the correct answer; I'll make one correction. I'll say: "John, or Mary, this is your best option." If they make the same mistake again, I'll explain it again. But if it happens a third time, I'll ask them. If they don't answer, that will stay on their minds, "hey, is going to ask me" So everything is a psychological deal that I want to play with them. Once again, the instruction was different if you look at Laver or Rosewall, all the old players. I mean, they will be over because they'll have to be in another place in a hurry, and the only way to get to that place would be by running, and the only way to run is cross over and start running; it is not to shuffle five times and start running afterward. So if you put them in situations in all different places of the court and make it fun, they'd learn better and faster.
 

I get cramps

Semi-Pro
Thanks for translating!

You're welcome!

I have read, reread, and bookmarked more than a hundred of your posts (at least) with great pleasure.

Since June 2010, I have been a member of the forum. I miss users like Benhur.

During the pandemic, when the circuit almost completely stopped. An interesting number of Spanish-speaking tennis players and coaches gave extensive interviews to Spatz and Horacio de la Peña.

The most interesting of all were those with Higueras and Emilio Sanchez.

I did not post many of them because, since they were about so-called "middling players," I thought they might bother the great majority (horrible syntagma) of the users. But, for example, the long (over two and a half hours long) interview that de La Peña made with Emilio is not to be missed. He has an excellent tennis mind.

If I needed any technical details to be explained to me. I can translate Bruguera's tactical explanation of why Muster was such a bad matchup for him, but I don't fully understand one detail. I can't explain Emilio Sanchez's service hand gesture, as he couldn't do it himself. He resorted to a visual demonstration. I can give all the linguistic context to @socallefty, as I think he is a tennis teacher, to clarify it for me. I think he has an excellent relationship with SystemicAnomaly from what I see on the forum.

Let's say I would like to return something of some interest, however small, from a forum where I have "stolen" knowledge.
 

Frankc

Professional
You have returned far, far more than "something." This is so, so interesting for anyone who truly loves and follows the game. Jose's interviewing style is thoughtful and so well balanced. Superb...

Emilio Sanchez was a favorite pro to watch for me - I am glad to hear that he is well into coaching and interviews well.
 

socallefty

G.O.A.T.
Let's say I would like to return something of some interest, however small, from a forum where I have "stolen" knowledge.
Very selfless of you to take the time to translate and post - bravo. Very rare to get a chance to get into the head of a top coach in some level of detail.

Hope many others appreciate it as much as I do.
 

I get cramps

Semi-Pro
You have returned far, far more than "something." This is so, so interesting for anyone who truly loves and follows the game. Jose's interviewing style is thoughtful and so well balanced. Superb...

Emilio Sanchez was a favorite pro to watch for me - I am glad to hear that he is well into coaching and interviews well.

I am flattered by your words. Thank you.

However, I am confident about what I wrote above.

I'm happy you enjoyed watching Emilio play. He was the least clutch player of his generation, but he fought until the last point of his career.

It was a heap more fun to watch him come back from being a set or two down to hit with the frame of his racquet on the ball on decisive points and lose matches that way than it was to watch Rafa win without pause.
 

Moose Malloy

G.O.A.T.
like his comments on Tiafoe. So many here are obsessed with technique(and many thought he would never be that good due to his technique)
 
Just came across this interview. So much insight and understandably so. The breadth of jose‘s playing and coaching careers and accumulated knowledge thru multiple eras is impressive. Huge amount of gratitude for this transcription.
 
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