Analysis of Federer-Nadal match by Craig O’Shannessy

[Robert Baratheon]

Djokovic's strategy coach makes some good points and it's interesting to see how he works using previous matches as a model.

He bases his points on Nadal and Federer's Wimbledon run this year and last year.
For Djokovic he implies that not a lot has changed since 2015.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/metro....-rafael-nadal-be-won-tactically-10192687/amp/

 

[smash hit]

Djokovic's strategy coach makes some good points and it's interesting to see how he works using previous matches as a model.

He bases his points on Nadal and Federer's Wimbledon run this year and last year.
For Djokovic he implies that not a lot has changed since 2015.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/metro....-rafael-nadal-be-won-tactically-10192687/amp/

He isn't only the strategy coach for Djokovic. He is the analyst behind 'Brain Games', for the ATP, which to me seems like a conflict of interests.

 

[True Fanerer]

What does Federer need to do to win?

"To make it a grass court match. To serve and volley, go to the net. To take time away and not get in extended rallies. Keep the rally length short and keep the rally low and to attack. Just take Rafa’s time away."

 

[Robert Baratheon]

What does Federer need to do to win?

To take time away and not get in extended rallies.

We know how often Roger has failed to do that against good opponents. It's not the failure that bothers me but the lack of intent in playing it his way which annoys me.
Every match with Delpotro and Coric is like that.
Anyone who is strong at the baseline starts dictating play against Federer and that bothers me.
I hope he comes out with the intent to take Nadal to the cleaners and he does it his own way.

 

[Jonas78]

This is really interesting. It definetly looks like Rafa accepts a lower "1st serve% in" to get more aces, a higher win% on 1st serve and shorter points. Like many have always suggested, Rafa has always had the ability to hit more aces, but he has chosen to play more on safety.

While his "old non-clay game" historically has worked very well vs Fed, but has been vulnerable vs the field, how will this affect the Federer match-up?

 

[Robert Baratheon]

This is really interesting. It definetly looks like Rafa accepts a lower "1st serve% in" to get more aces, a higher win% on 1st serve and shorter points. Like many have always suggested, Rafa has always had the ability to hit more aces, but he has chosen to play more on safety.

While his "old non-clay game" historically has worked very well vs Fed, but has been vulnerable vs the field, how will this affect the Federer match-up?

I have thought about it every which way but it seems difficult to have a really conclusive conclusion (if there's such a thing lol) of what will happen today. The information we have is very less and inconclusive I think because all the players Fedal faced folded cheaply in front of them this grass season so you really don't know who is good and who is not and how good they actually are.
We will find out soon.

 

[Red Rick]

Article is really really short imo.

Like did Fed won 48% of baseline points vs Nadal or at the Aussie Open in 2017?

And it's really just silly to say nothing's changed. Nadal can't stand 5m behind the baseline anymore. Fed can't defend like he could in 2008 anymore either. It's much more of a match of aggression. The differences between then and now are much bigger.

Also, if Fed wants to go to the net, he needs his baseline game to support that. If he just runs to the net cause he has nowhere else to go, he's gonna run right to the slaugther

 

[Subway Tennis]

He isn't only the strategy coach for Djokovic. He is the analyst behind 'Brain Games', for the ATP, which to me seems like a conflict of interests.

He was also employed by Matteo Berrettini as a strategy coach and data provider to help him prepare for the match against Federer.

If he has any dignity, Craig will have refused payment for the guidance he provided there.....

 

[Goof]

Craigers is a hack whose unsophisticated "analytics" give real analytics a bad name.

 

[OddJack]

I am trying to find Oshanessey's analysis, where is it?