Andre Agassi: The GOAT doesn't exist, but if he does, it's more Nadal than Federer!

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Nole majored 4 times at those slam h2h, that is really good. But Andre is math genius and unfortunately knows 9>4. I’ll keep that drink refrigerated for now:p

He also knows if Rafa gets beat by players ranked outside the top 100 and cannot make it past the fourth round at W, or loses matches to Fognini while being two sets up, to Pouille, and gets wooden spoon courtesy of Verdasco...Nadal will remain the superior player between the two.

How many matches at RG? 7
How many combined at the other three slams? 6

Are you sure you don't want some bubbly? :p:D You should get the first glass. LOL!
 

TheAssassin

G.O.A.T.
He also knows if Rafa gets beat by players ranked outside the top 100 and cannot make it past the fourth round at W, or loses matches to Fognini while being two sets up, to Pouille, and gets wooden spoon courtesy of Verdasco...Nadal will remain the superior player between the two.

How many matches at RG? 7
How many combined at the other three slams? 6


Are you sure you don't want some bubbly? :p:D You should get the first glass. LOL!
VB be like "7-6 that's almost even, no skew at all" :D
 

tennisaddict

Bionic Poster
Agassi has been all empty noise over the last year with only Eastbourne title to show.

Marian Vajda , being quiet, achieved plenty more with Novak .

Agassi does not have to look far to learn.
 

Incognito

Legend
He also knows if Rafa gets beat by players ranked outside the top 100 and cannot make it past the fourth round at W, or loses matches to Fognini while being two sets up, to Pouille, and gets wooden spoon courtesy of Verdasco...Nadal will remain the superior player between the two.

How many matches at RG? 7
How many combined at the other three slams? 6

Are you sure you don't want some bubbly? :p:D You should get the first glass. LOL!

Unfortunately for us Nole fans, Andre the math genius Agassi only sees 9>4.:( I have a bubbly ready since Novak turned pro, 9>4 forbids me from drinking it:(
 
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Unfortunately for us Nole fans, Andre the math genius Agassi only sees 9>4.:( I have a bubbly ready since Novak turned pro, 9>4 forbids me from drinking it:(

Lets hope then Nadal doesn't get more wooden spoon or he will be able to open up a new restaurant kitchen...but hey, maybe we can go celebrate at his restaurant, what do you think? Will you be my date??? :)
 

Incognito

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Lets hope then Nadal doesn't get more wooden spoon or he will be able to open up a new restaurant kitchen...but hey, maybe we can go celebrate at his restaurant, what do think? Will you be my date??? :)

Rafa already has a restaurant with Enrique. He said the only way he will open a new one will be when someone beats him 9 times at majors.:(

We’ll go on a date once Nole reverses that damn 9>4. :)
 
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Rafa already has a restaurant with Enrique. He said the only way he will open a new one will be when someone beats him 9 times at majors.:(

We’ll go on a date once Nole reverses that damn 9>4. :)

We better hope then Nadal stops playing guys outside the top 100 at Wimbledon first. Come on Rafa, help me out here! :);)
 

abmk

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oh hey look, one butthurt nadal fanatic is bringing in an artile from more than 3 years ago ....
 

BGod

G.O.A.T.
Agassi says stupid crap sometimes.

No great player can be expected to beat a younger great player if primes don't overlap. 5 years is a big deal. Lendl won like 12 of the last matches against Connors. I believe 7 year difference for them.

Then he of all people goes on to ignore surfaces? Fed leads off clay despite half of matches being after his prime.

His choking against Sampras was justified according to him because he's GOAT. Was a huge Agassi fan growing up but talks too much.
 

Incognito

Legend
We better hope then Nadal stops playing guys outside the top 100 at Wimbledon first. Come on Rafa, help me out here! :);)

And let’s hope when Rafa actually meets Nole at the majors it doesn’t become like the 9 times before. Please Nole, I know you waited 10 years to beat Rafa at RG but it’s possible:p
 
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And let’s hope when Rafa actually meets Nole at the majors it doesn’t become like the 9 times before. Please Nole, I know you waited 10 years to beat Rafa at RG but it’s possible:p

Lets hope for a couple of AO showdowns, hopefully a fourth round encounter next Jan. We know that despite having an additional day's rest, and kicking back and watching Djokovic play for over 5 hours of bruising tennis against Murray, Nadal still couldn't put away a severely weakened Djokovic, and he had six hours to do it. A fourth round match would do nicely...then I hope Djokovic loses enough points to be ranked outside the top 100 at Wimbledon...no way Rafa can duck him then! :p

Don't let me down boys, I got the girl to say yes! ;)
 

Wander

Hall of Fame
Still the h2h talk after Roger just beat Rafa 5 times in a row?

And BGod is right, Federer is so much older than Djokovic and Nadal that the fact that the h2hs are as close as they are only reflects well on him.

Connors actually lead the h2h against Lendl 13-6 in mid 1984 but then went on to lose each of their final 17 matches to end up 13-22.
 

gn

G.O.A.T.
Really brilliant to post an article that's four years old. Must be a slow day for the VB contingent.

I believe the OP has been trying to create the thread for years. Finally the forum posted the thread. So cut the OP some slack.
 

tennisaddict

Bionic Poster
Still the h2h talk after Roger just beat Rafa 5 times in a row?

And BGod is right, Federer is so much older than Djokovic and Nadal that the fact that the h2hs are as close as they are only reflects well on him.

Connors actually lead the h2h against Lendl 13-6 in mid 1984 but then went on to lose each of their final 17 matches to end up 13-22.

It is the VB trying their best to deflect Rafa's 6 consecutive losses to 36 year Fed.
 

heninfan99

Talk Tennis Guru
Interesting translation back to English. I doubt Andre used the world "churlish". lol...and if he did I can't take his argument seriously.
 
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merlinpinpin

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Unfortunately for us Nole fans, Andre the meth genius Agassi only sees 9>4.:( I have a bubbly ready since Novak turned pro, 9>4 forbids me from drinking it:(

Corrected that for you. :D

Agassi says stupid crap sometimes.

No great player can be expected to beat a younger great player if primes don't overlap. 5 years is a big deal. Lendl won like 12 of the last matches against Connors. I believe 7 year difference for them.

It's 17, actually. Connors was leading comfortably (13-5, he had won the first 8), then Lendl won their last 17 meetings to end the series at 22-13.

Then he of all people goes on to ignore surfaces? Fed leads off clay despite half of matches being after his prime.

His choking against Sampras was justified according to him because he's GOAT. Was a huge Agassi fan growing up but talks too much.

It's especially funny when you remember that he always beat Sampras at AO but always lost to him at USO and Wimbledon. Sure that surfaces don't count, Andre? ;)
 

VaporDude95

Banned
what has actually occurred, between Federer and Nadal especially this year, is the inverse of what you state.

baby Nadal owned peak Federer winning 5 of their first 6 meetings as a teen, yet Federer at 36 has won 4 in a row.

***** 5 in a row *****
 

Incognito

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Lets hope for a couple of AO showdowns, hopefully a fourth round encounter next Jan. We know that despite having an additional day's rest, and kicking back and watching Djokovic play for over 5 hours of bruising tennis against Murray, Nadal still couldn't put away a severely weakened Djokovic, and he had six hours to do it. A fourth round match would do nicely...then I hope Djokovic loses enough points to be ranked outside the top 100 at Wimbledon...no way Rafa can duck him then! :p

Don't let me down boys, I got the girl to say yes! ;)

I don’t know about you, but what if it becomes 10>4? We will never go on a date.:(I mean it took him 6 hours to beat a one-legged Rafa with massive mental problems in 2012.:( We shouldn’t worry about every Tom Dick and Harry beating Rafa at wimby because against Nole it’s a different ballgame, that’s why it’s 9-4 and not 14-0. I’m still hoping for that date though:p
 

BHud

Hall of Fame
Exactly...Andre appreciates a good career #2...(Pete's biash...always was, always will be)...
 

Sport

G.O.A.T.
Obviously he is right, Nadal is the real GOAT.

When the truth is exposed people cry at Federer Fans Warehouse, nothing new under the sun.
 
what has actually occurred, between Federer and Nadal especially this year, is the inverse of what you state.

baby Nadal owned peak Federer winning 5 of their first 6 meetings as a teen, yet Federer at 36 has won 4 in a row.
Not at a Major where the bounce favours Nadal. Federer did look like he tanked to avoid Nadal at USO, and seemed to confirm that in the pressers afterwards with some bizarre remarks. Only way Federer will show he has solved the Nadal puzzle is to beat him at the FO and/or USO. AO this year was like an indoor court it was so low which is why three of the 4 semi finalists had one handed backhands. Will it be as slow next year. Be interesting to see.
 

fedtennisphan

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Not at a Major where the bounce favours Nadal. Federer did look like he tanked to avoid Nadal at USO, and seemed to confirm that in the pressers afterwards with some bizarre remarks. Only way Federer will show he has solved the Nadal puzzle is to beat him at the FO and/or USO. AO this year was like an indoor court it was so low which is why three of the 4 semi finalists had one handed backhands. Will it be as slow next year. Be interesting to see.

guess you missed the 'this year' part...


It looks like the Nadal fans are closing ranks because this year didn’t turn out how it should have.
 
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In a sense I agree with Agassi that the GOAT concept is stupid because it's impossible to compare eras, but he has an ulterior motive here. He's only saying this now as Djokovic's coach because Djokovic has winning records over both. He can believe whatever he wants about Nadal, but he should also realize that Federer is considered the more accomplished player by the much larger number of people as it stands today, for very obvious reasons.

I also see some parallels between Agassi liking Nadal considering he was also considered second best of his own era in comparison to Sampras. I might be reading too much into it there, but I've gotten that sense from Agassi.
Nadal 2017 is also quite similar to Agassi's 1999 season, where he posted the most consistent results overall but wasn't the "best" player on tour, which was still Sampras who ended the year at 3.
 

DRII

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It looks like the Nadal fans are closing ranks because this year didn’t turn out how it should have.
you mean with Nadal having the best year at the slams and ending the year the #1 player in the world???

I say this year turned out just fine for Nadal fans!

but please, you and your ilk can go ahead and think otherwise.
 
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I don’t know about you, but what if it becomes 10>4? We will never go on a date.:(I mean it took him 6 hours to beat a one-legged Rafa with massive mental problems in 2012.:( We shouldn’t worry about every Tom Dick and Harry beating Rafa at wimby because against Nole it’s a different ballgame, that’s why it’s 9-4 and not 14-0. I’m still hoping for that date though:p

Best date of your life...trust me. I know how to romance the ladies. ;)
 

Mugu

Rookie
You’re thinking of perfection. That’s doesn’t exists. Fed is closest thing.

Nadal also has a losing record against Novak. Has never beaten Novak at AO and Novak has knocked Nadal off his perch on clay many times

i really don't understand the logic. if i have a winning record against the guy you consider the closest to perfection, wouldn't that make me
just a bit closer to perfection?
 
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Nadal held a winning record against all the other 3 of the B4 for years and he wasn't considered the GOAT then by many.

Tell that to Agassi. I am not the one making the claim here. I am merely interpreting it. :)
 

Meles

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Meles

Bionic Poster
It will live on somewhere else then...you cannot contain and control such magnificence. :cool:
I've been thinking about doing a thread called Troll's Graveyard. Now I'm thinking about adding a poll question on whether TTW should clean slate all the bans and let them all back. That would be something.:cool:
 
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