Angell Racquet Demo Exchange

Jay Winzenz

New User
Long time lurker, first time poster. One of the challenges with Angell racquets is trying to determine which racquet and configuration may best meet your needs and I've seen a lot of posts where people are trying to determine which one based upon others comparisons. I know there is a company stateside that has demo frames, but those are only of certain standard racquets. I, among others, took the route of buying some used Angell racquets and experimenting. However, there are other Angell racquets I would like to try but used racquets don't seem to come up for sale very often and financially I cannot afford to buy new.

It seems to me there may be others in this same predicament. Is there a way to connect us together and exchange racquets for demo purposes? Alternatively, are there folks who own Angell racquets that might be willing to let others try their racquets as long as they agree to cover shipping? I currently own:

Angell TC97 16x19, 310/315, 4 3/8 type "B"
Angell TC100 16x19, 310/315, 63 RA, 4 3/8 type "B"

I would like to try:

Angell TC95 16x19 310/315 or 320/315, 63 RA, 4 3/8 type "B"
Angell TC95 18x20 310/315 or 320/315, 63 RA, 4 3/8 type "B"
Angell TC97 18x20 310/315or 320/315 , 4 3/8 type "B"

Anyone interested?
 

JohnBPittsburgh

Hall of Fame
I can only speak for myself, but I am insane about my frames. If I sent out a pristine frame and it came back scratched I would have to invest in airline tickets to go kill them. Plus, I am paranoid about shady people. I would be apprehensive about shipping my $200+ frame to someone I don't know ;) but in theory, it sounds like fun :D
 

dgoran

Hall of Fame
Jay if you are in orlando fl I have no problem meeting up and letting you try but like @JohnBPittsburgh already said we are probably all too OCD about shipping racquets around
 

Jay Winzenz

New User
Thanks Dgoran, but I'm about as far from Orlando (at least weather-wise) as you can get - Wisconsin where we just received 8 inches of snow and the current temperature is 10 degrees. I'm probably as OCD about my racquets as the rest of you (I wont even let my daughter spin the racquet on the court and let it drop to determine serve). However, at some point all racquets get scratches and nicks, at least if you're using them. I would not expect, nor want, someone to send me a pristine racquet to demo because I would be afraid to damage it. Regardless, sounds like this idea does not have any support so I'll just keep reading all the posts where people compare Angell racquets against other retail racquets to narrow my search (that's part of the fun of this forum) and keep looking for used racquets when they pop up. Thanks all.
 

Ft.S

Semi-Pro
My 2 cents...

Even though this is good idea on paper, I generally find demo'ing any racquet quite misleading. None of the purchases I made previously based on demo'ing held up, I always ended up disliking my choice. I think that is primarily due to the strings used, conditions under which I demo'd, and limited time spent on each racquet (one or two clinics/matches).

One thing demo racquets were good for was identifying racquets in which you can immediately tell if they will not be good for me; for example, too heavy, wrong balance, lack of feel, etc. Otherwise, it was never good for me in identifying the ones that I'd say "yes, this is the one I am looking for."

I purchased my first Angells without any demo, just two emails with Paul. They were very good choices. Changing from one frame to another also has been easy with Angells, because the used market is so strong. If I don't gel with one frame, I can list it here in TT forums, and sold each one of them within 3 days. Purchasers of used frames have been quite happy as well, the Angell's paint job holds up very well to use. Overall costs of changing frames for me has been less than $50-60 total (I tried 4 different frames and 11 different racquets thus far), which is close to what I would have spent demo'ing several racquets anyways.
 

mmk

Hall of Fame
My 2 cents...

Even though this is good idea on paper, I generally find demo'ing any racquet quite misleading. None of the purchases I made previously based on demo'ing held up, I always ended up disliking my choice. I think that is primarily due to the strings used, conditions under which I demo'd, and limited time spent on each racquet (one or two clinics/matches).

One thing demo racquets were good for was identifying racquets in which you can immediately tell if they will not be good for me; for example, too heavy, wrong balance, lack of feel, etc. Otherwise, it was never good for me in identifying the ones that I'd say "yes, this is the one I am looking for."

I purchased my first Angells without any demo, just two emails with Paul. They were very good choices. Changing from one frame to another also has been easy with Angells, because the used market is so strong. If I don't gel with one frame, I can list it here in TT forums, and sold each one of them within 3 days. Purchasers of used frames have been quite happy as well, the Angell's paint job holds up very well to use. Overall costs of changing frames for me has been less than $50-60 total (I tried 4 different frames and 11 different racquets thus far), which is close to what I would have spent demo'ing several racquets anyways.
We miss you at AHC
 
J

joohan

Guest
My 2 cents...

Even though this is good idea on paper, I generally find demo'ing any racquet quite misleading. None of the purchases I made previously based on demo'ing held up, I always ended up disliking my choice. I think that is primarily due to the strings used, conditions under which I demo'd, and limited time spent on each racquet (one or two clinics/matches).

One thing demo racquets were good for was identifying racquets in which you can immediately tell if they will not be good for me; for example, too heavy, wrong balance, lack of feel, etc. Otherwise, it was never good for me in identifying the ones that I'd say "yes, this is the one I am looking for."

I purchased my first Angells without any demo, just two emails with Paul. They were very good choices. Changing from one frame to another also has been easy with Angells, because the used market is so strong. If I don't gel with one frame, I can list it here in TT forums, and sold each one of them within 3 days. Purchasers of used frames have been quite happy as well, the Angell's paint job holds up very well to use. Overall costs of changing frames for me has been less than $50-60 total (I tried 4 different frames and 11 different racquets thus far), which is close to what I would have spent demo'ing several racquets anyways.

Yes, given the quality of the lay up Angells have quite high resale value. Of course you lose something when you buy brand new (as is the case with almost everything bought brand new) but I think it's totally worth a try. I've been buying and re-selling used Angells with minimal losses so far.
 
OP I do like the idea but No, I won't sending my racquet to demo....I have no problem hitting with a player using my racquet in person as @Eobard has generously offered. I have been burned in the past by internet "colleagues"....That said, WHO has ANGELL's in the SF Bay Area???? looking to try ANY models that differ from my specs. Im in Santa Cruz and the south bay.

@Ft.S I do see some value to demoing a racquet with unfamiliar strings, grips, customizations etc. even for a short time. I tried to swoop up on some of those used ones in the FS forum but i guess my mouse reaction is slow because i miss out every time. @joohan these things go fast.
 

Zoolander

Hall of Fame
Wherever I am!


People can PM me if they want to know geographically ;)

Great! Just tell me your address, where you hide your racquets and jewelry, how to turn your alarm off and i will see you around 2am tonight!

Well, you wont see ME hopefully...... ;)
 

Dallasatl

New User
Long time lurker, first time poster. One of the challenges with Angell racquets is trying to determine which racquet and configuration may best meet your needs and I've seen a lot of posts where people are trying to determine which one based upon others comparisons. I know there is a company stateside that has demo frames, but those are only of certain standard racquets. I, among others, took the route of buying some used Angell racquets and experimenting. However, there are other Angell racquets I would like to try but used racquets don't seem to come up for sale very often and financially I cannot afford to buy new.

It seems to me there may be others in this same predicament. Is there a way to connect us together and exchange racquets for demo purposes? Alternatively, are there folks who own Angell racquets that might be willing to let others try their racquets as long as they agree to cover shipping? I currently own:

Angell TC97 16x19, 310/315, 4 3/8 type "B"
Angell TC100 16x19, 310/315, 63 RA, 4 3/8 type "B"

I would like to try:

Angell TC95 16x19 310/315 or 320/315, 63 RA, 4 3/8 type "B"
Angell TC95 18x20 310/315 or 320/315, 63 RA, 4 3/8 type "B"
Angell TC97 18x20 310/315or 320/315 , 4 3/8 type "B"

Anyone interested?
I only have a TC96 16x19 ra63 and certainly would pay to try the TC100. I really want to try the that and the Kl Lime and AGL
 
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