Anisimova's spectacular meltdown.

UnderratedSlam

UnderratedSlam

G.O.A.T.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/tennis...k/news-story/dbc0a845821250e20e8a611b6a416244

Anybody watch this match?

Amanda was thrashing Leyla, gave her no chances, was overpowering her as if Fernandez were some child. Then suddenly, the 4 lost MPs, and Anisimova just crumbled, with a speed that's record-breaking. She didn't even try. Instantly, she decided she would lose the match.

I believe Amanda knew she'd get bageled in the 3rd set, which is why she feigned illness. There is no way in hell she was so ill that she could pound on Fernandez the way she had for an hour or so.

I hope this kid gets her act together, otherwise that's yet another big talent wasted. I'd love her to reach the top 5, where she belongs.
 
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UnderratedSlam said:
https://www.foxsports.com.au/tennis...k/news-story/dbc0a845821250e20e8a611b6a416244

Anybody watch this match?

Amanda was thrashing Leyla, gave her no chances, was overpowering her as if Fernandez were some child. Then suddenly, the 4 lost MPs, and Anisimova just crumbled, with a speed that's record-breaking.

I believe Amanda knew she'd get bageled in the 3rd set, which is why she feigned illness. There is no way in hell she was so ill that she could pound on Fernandez the way she had for an hour or so.

I hope this kid gets her act together, otherwise that's yet another big talent wasted.
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She's been hanging out with Kyrgiis too much
 
coolcamden said:
AA has had some bad luck, right? Her Dad passing, hard lock down during AO last year, illnesses… Cahill dumped on her right before this tournament. She has elite level skills, but mannnn…. She needs life to give her a break. Least of all these keyboard warriors hating on her.
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I agree. We still don't know why Cahill and her parted ways. The timing is very unfortunate though. Really hope this doesnt derail her year. But with that huge meltdown yesterday it seems like it already has!
 
MotoboXer said:
Just another rigged result nothing 2 C here
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I'm not naive to believe there are no rigged matches.

But if you were part of a scheme, you would be SEVERELY DISCIPLINED for waiting
to 40-0 match points, before tanking.

It's far too risky. Your opponent can flub the ball and all of a sudden you've won!

So think carefully before making such assertions.
 
coolcamden said:
AA has had some bad luck, right? Her Dad passing, hard lock down during AO last year, illnesses… Cahill dumped on her right before this tournament. She has elite level skills, but mannnn…. She needs life to give her a break. Least of all these keyboard warriors hating on her.
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Is it her own fault Cahill dumped her, or do we know?
 
I watched most of the match from early on.
Amanda was blowing Leylah off the court with sheer power.
Amanda worked her way to a 5-4, 40-0 lead for three match points in the 2nd set.

Inexplicably she took her foot off the gas, couldn't close it and let Leylah back into the match.
I believe in total she had 5 match points.

Her mind turned to mush in the tie-break and she lost it 0-7.
Given her mental state, she likely would have lost the 3rd set.
She was sick alright, but only in her head.

Why is anyone's guess. Only her hairdresser knows for sure.
 
Cahill did address it, and he said he just wasn't willing to be a full time tour coach anymore. The covid standards (getting into and out of the country) in Australia had a lot to do with it. Not being able to fly home for a week and such.
 
James P said:
Cahill did address it, and he said he just wasn't willing to be a full time tour coach anymore. The covid standards (getting into and out of the country) in Australia had a lot to do with it. Not being able to fly home for a week and such.
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Then why did he take the job to begin with? (Not questioning you, just seems iffy).
 
coolcamden said:
AA has had some bad luck, right? Her Dad passing, hard lock down during AO last year, illnesses… Cahill dumped on her right before this tournament. She has elite level skills, but mannnn…. She needs life to give her a break. Least of all these keyboard warriors hating on her.
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She's a 20 year old making $10k plus per week. Many would swap places.
 
Hanging out with Krygios? That's bizarre. Why would someone do that? "Like oh my gord, thanks for hanging out with me bro, i paid my girlfriend with all my prize money to hang out but she asked for a refund bro, but i'll wire you that money now bro"
 
Instinctively, I just feel in tough situations like this the player needs to hang in there and learn from it one way or the other.
Her game has been strong, so hopefully she can get back on track and be a force on the tour.

The athletes are clearly feeling a lot of pressure. She couldn't stick around for the 3rd set and Osaka was shaken by the fan. Horrible as both these situations are, learning how to work through them will hopefully make the stronger.
Of course there could be more to the story. Just seems to be becoming more common??
 
Mark-Touch said:
I'm not naive to believe there are no rigged matches.

But if you were part of a scheme, you would be SEVERELY DISCIPLINED for waiting
to 40-0 match points, before tanking.

It's far too risky. Your opponent can flub the ball and all of a sudden you've won!

So think carefully before making such assertions.
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Good point. Tank jobs don't involve getting to match point
 
atatu said:
Kind of amazing how so many are worried about AA but hating on Naomi isn't it ? Osaka finished her match though.
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Probably because AA's Father/Coach passed away which she hasn't recovered from.

Also, Osaka has had about 10 of these mental melt downs, unlike AA.
 
Spanglish72 said:
Probably because AA's Father/Coach passed away which she hasn't recovered from.

Also, Osaka has had about 10 of these mental melt downs, unlike AA.
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AA has had many meltdowns the past year, crying on court, being disrespectful to opponents etc. Cahill turned her around.

Why would her coach decide to quit over travel difficulties/restrictions at the beginning of a tournament? He's already there! Why not wait till after the tournament?

Seems super fishy timing wise.
 
AA played mixed doubles with Nick K. like 2 years ago or something and he stood up for her to the press who kept asking her about her dad who just died and making her cry. IDK why that means they dated. I also don't see why it's not possible that AA was sick and had good stamina for a short period of time then just crashed out...? Plenty of players have won and lost when sick. Where is the drama here?
 
WarrenMP said:
Leylah is a fighter. A fighter stay in the fight until their opponent breaks down. Sorry Anisimova.

On another note, Anisimova will have another day at tennis. I like her game and look forward to her next tournament.
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Thank you for saying this, it's about the most logical and realistic thing I've read throughout this whole thread. For all the gossipers, AA is engaged to Tyler Roos, so why connect her to NK? She played phenomenal in the "TENS Tiebreaker Series and won $150,000 prior to IW even starting. I do think she broke down mentally and lost the match I seriously doubt there was any tanking. Fernandez is killer comeback queen and even in the face of losing the match, she still continued to fight.
 
norcal said:
AA has had many meltdowns the past year, crying on court, being disrespectful to opponents etc. Cahill turned her around.

Why would her coach decide to quit over travel difficulties/restrictions at the beginning of a tournament? He's already there! Why not wait till after the tournament?

Seems super fishy timing wise.
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I'm beginning to think Cahill may be a dick(or a drama queen). The way he left Halep and came back etc. He left Hewitt for Agassi(for almost certainly more money).
"Supercoaches" get way too much glory, there are a ton of great coaches that no one has heard of. Ones you don't have to worry about giving endless interviews, doing commentary for matches of your rivals etc.
 
she said she was too physically ill to continue and was sick last couple days
so i dont think it was really a meltdown :oops:
 
WTA Tour has turned into a soap opera tennis league! You got all sorts of player back stories, player emotional breakdown while in the middle of matches, crying, sadness, outlandish words said in post match on court interviews, etc… Some of the WTA players are mentally, emotionally unhinged now!:eek: The WTA has lots of problems to deal with! WTA is the unleashed psychological troubled Tour. NFL AB WR attics would probably not be notice if he came a woman and played pro tennis!
 
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coolcamden said:
AA has had some bad luck, right? Her Dad passing, hard lock down during AO last year, illnesses… Cahill dumped on her right before this tournament. She has elite level skills, but mannnn…. She needs life to give her a break. Least of all these keyboard warriors hating on her.
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Explain the hard lock down thing? Because how is that just her problem and not the entire world's?
 
Harry_Wild said:
WTA Tour has turned into a soap opera tennis league! You got all sorts of player back stories, player emotional breakdown while in the middle of matches, crying, sadness, outlandish words said in post match on court interviews, etc… Some of the WTA players are mentally, emotionally unhinged now!:eek: The WTA has lots of problems to deal with! WTA is the unleashed psychological troubled Tour. NFL AB WR attics would probably not be notice if he came a woman and played pro tennis!
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Agreed. The WTA is in such a bad place right now. Anyone who doesn't see that is either blind or lying.
 
Also I have little sympathy for anyone not finishing a match unless there's a serious injury. People paid money to watch you play, and indirectly they're paying you. So if you can finish a match, you do so. Mental weakness or even "feeling unwell" (for example young Djokovic at the AO) is not an adequate reason.
 
onefineday said:
Fernandez is a nightmare for the WTA players. Expect more to come. She's tough and can smell the fear.
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it's her calling card. When she's down and then fights to come back and wins, players remember and it stays on their mind. I'd retire too than see Leylah's on court celebrations.
I'd like to see these two meet again. And have a Leylah fan hold up a sign, "unfinshed business".
 
reaper said:
She's a 20 year old making $10k plus per week. Many would swap places.
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I like how people think it is all resorts and just fun tennis. Like they are just given $10k.

Most people have absolutely no self-control or discipline, or consistent drive and determination, or skill and competitive spirit to win enough. Or they too could be "easily" making $10k per week. And they still have mental break downs with such easy lives they live now.

Someone should coin a phrase or make a quote about money not buy happiness. Seems legit.
 
ChaelAZ said:
I like how people think it is all resorts and just fun tennis. Like they are just given $10k.

Most people have absolutely no self-control or discipline, or consistent drive and determination, or skill and competitive spirit to win enough. Or they too could be "easily" making $10k per week. And they still have mental break downs with such easy lives they live now.

Someone should coin a phrase or make a quote about money not buy happiness. Seems legit.
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Animisova's position remains a very fortunate one. Even if she can't stand the site of a tennis ball at the moment she should be highly ranked enough to gain direct entry at the next 3 majors. If she can be bothered showing up that's $300k for 3 days work (assuming 1st round losses)in the next 6 months. It's true to a point that money doesn't buy happiness, but anyone who doesn't realise that it buys choices can't ever have been poor. Animisova can use that $300k, along with the $2.8 million she's amassed so far (hopefully some of which she's retained) to do what she wants with her life. My suspicion is that like so many other tennis players who go through a phase of hating the sport, she'll choose tennis. Most of them only hate tennis until they look at the alternatives.
 
reaper said:
Animisova's position remains a very fortunate one. Even if she can't stand the site of a tennis ball at the moment she should be highly ranked enough to gain direct entry at the next 3 majors. If she can be bothered showing up that's $300k for 3 days work (assuming 1st round losses)in the next 6 months. It's true to a point that money doesn't buy happiness, but anyone who doesn't realise that it buys choices can't ever have been poor. Animisova can use that $300k, along with the $2.8 million she's amassed so far (hopefully some of which she's retained) to do what she wants with her life. My suspicion is that like so many other tennis players who go through a phase of hating the sport, she'll choose tennis. Most of them only hate tennis until they look at the alternatives.
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Sorry, will summarily disagree with anything money based when talking about happiness or options. Just because someone can afford to fly themselves to an exclusive resort, first class, with all the amenities in life, those options does nothing for happiness. And you under value the amount of time and effort, and ultimately sacrifices she has made to be in a position to make the living she does. None of that makes her fortunate. But lets step back and take a minute to understand our argument of that in our houses, on computers, on the internet and talk about privileged. And, are we super happy because we are not poor? I know I have had stresses and challenges for the life I lead. I dunno. I ain't going to be the one to point any fingers and tell someone else how lucky they are.
 
ChaelAZ said:
Sorry, will summarily disagree with anything money based when talking about happiness or options. Just because someone can afford to fly themselves to an exclusive resort, first class, with all the amenities in life, those options does nothing for happiness. And you under value the amount of time and effort, and ultimately sacrifices she has made to be in a position to make the living she does. None of that makes her fortunate. But lets step back and take a minute to understand our argument of that in our houses, on computers, on the internet and talk about privileged. And, are we super happy because we are not poor? I know I have had stresses and challenges for the life I lead. I dunno. I ain't going to be the one to point any fingers and tell someone else how lucky they are.
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Presumably Animisova fell apart psychologically because her perception of self worth depends too much on winning, so she imploded emotionally after failing to close out the match. While she's working that out, she's much better off having money in the bank. It means she can walk away from the game temporarily at any time, unlike the Challenger level player who's got nothing if they don't show up again next week. Her financial position gives her space and time (options) to deal with her apparent mental issue.
 
ChaelAZ said:
Sorry, will summarily disagree with anything money based when talking about happiness or options. Just because someone can afford to fly themselves to an exclusive resort, first class, with all the amenities in life, those options does nothing for happiness. And you under value the amount of time and effort, and ultimately sacrifices she has made to be in a position to make the living she does. None of that makes her fortunate. But lets step back and take a minute to understand our argument of that in our houses, on computers, on the internet and talk about privileged. And, are we super happy because we are not poor? I know I have had stresses and challenges for the life I lead. I dunno. I ain't going to be the one to point any fingers and tell someone else how lucky they are.
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I will take it step further and state that wealth can sometimes even make things worse in that the person has everything the world says they need to be happy, but they are miserable.
 
5.0 in 3.0 Body Guy said:
I will take it step further and state that wealth can sometimes even make things worse in that the person has everything the world says they need to be happy, but they are miserable.
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Most people have to financially support themselves so can't simply walk away when not enjoying their job. Successful tennis pros can because they have money. If Animisova doesn't like tennis she can simply walk away, retrain and work in a different vocation without being under any particular financial pressure in the interim. It's probably the best thing she could do. A good dose in the workplace like the rest of the world might cure her of the morbidity she currently seems to associate with tennis.
 
bitcoinoperated said:
It has been in a bad place since early 2000, this is just business as usual.
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i think it was ok until 2008? when henin retired, and
when jankovic got to the USO finals that was when the
ball really started rollin. before that there was some good
tennis with the williams', capriati, davenport, henin, etc..
 
UnderratedSlam said:
https://www.foxsports.com.au/tennis...k/news-story/dbc0a845821250e20e8a611b6a416244

Anybody watch this match?

Amanda was thrashing Leyla, gave her no chances, was overpowering her as if Fernandez were some child. Then suddenly, the 4 lost MPs, and Anisimova just crumbled, with a speed that's record-breaking. She didn't even try. Instantly, she decided she would lose the match.

I believe Amanda knew she'd get bageled in the 3rd set, which is why she feigned illness. There is no way in hell she was so ill that she could pound on Fernandez the way she had for an hour or so.

I hope this kid gets her act together, otherwise that's yet another big talent wasted. I'd love her to reach the top 5, where she belongs.
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what's amanda doing now ? is she still mad ? is she partying in miami ?
 
JackieTreeh0rn said:
Greed? Wth are you on about?
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I've just posted a single post with my opinion on the topic here. I've also compiled quite a few messages on other thread's headlines; most of them to the point. What's your point here? Do you think you're on topic? How many TTW posts do you have that follow the thread's headlines?
Peace to rookies
 
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