Annacone: Kyrgios is the most talented player since Roger Federer arrived

Meles

Bionic Poster
Tricky Nicky is the most talented ever, but the poisoning of his fruit smoothie has postponed this reveleation.:oops:
 

bigserving

Hall of Fame
It is easy to understand why he would have that opinion. Tennis talent is also between the ears and in the heart. Time will tell if he is right, or if Kyrgios turns out to be that beautiful car on the outside, with nothing impressive under the bonnet.
 

tennisaddict

Bionic Poster
Paul meant natural talent here. But I am sure he will ripped to shreds here for even bringing up that notion . We will have folks defending here that grinding is something that you are born with and not acquired
 

Steve0904

Talk Tennis Guru
His ability to pull off fantastic shots is a great asset for sure. If the kid matures and finds match to match and week to week consistency he can win a few slams IMO. However, the reason I say "only" a few is because he'll never have the greatest movement on the tour. He has a world beating serve and a pretty good FH, but he'll never be Djokovic or Nadal from a defensive standpoint or Federer from an all around standpoint. And barring the genius of Federer, defense and consistency is the name of today's game. That's largely what wins 12 and 14 slams respectively today.

As such, with Kyrgios's weaknesses I think he can win 3-4 slams if he gets his head out of his ass, but no more than that.
 

D.Nalby12

Legend
Kyrgios is Tsonga level player at his best. Doubt he will ever be consistent as Tsonga. But he will achieve more as he won't have face Big 3. He would have remained Slam less for sure if he had been part Djokovic generation.
 

D.Nalby12

Legend
It's only because pathetic standards established by Gen Useless, players of Kyrgios' potential getting so much attention.
 

tennisaddict

Bionic Poster
Kyrgios is Tsonga level player at his best. Doubt he will ever be consistent as Tsonga. But he will achieve more as he won't have face Big 3. He would have remained Slam less for sure if he had been part Djokovic generation.
Really ? It needs a special kind of player to beat Rafa, Roger and Novak in first attempt.

I think in the mental strength department Kyrgios is ahead of Tsonga.

To me , Kyrgios is almost a Delpo level player.
 

BeatlesFan

Talk Tennis Guru
I think people's mass hatred of Nick (for good reasons) colors their view. I can't stand Nick, but a blind person can see that Annacone is correct. Just watch Nick for 20 minutes and it's quite apparent he's vastly more talented than either Djoker or Nadal. He will probably never have the results of either player, but talent-wise, he's off the charts. Just watch him play, it's effortless for him.
 

Mainad

Bionic Poster
We all know Nick's got the goods when he puts his mind to it. But the big question remains: how often will he be capable of doing that? There's more to winning big titles than just beating this version of Djokovic however satisfying that must be for him.
 

mmk

Hall of Fame
Kyrgios obviously has talent out the wazoo, and when he is ON I like watching him as much as Nastase, McEnroe, and Federer at their best. But he is wildly inconsistent, maybe he'll mature into greatness. Or maybe he'll be an unlikable version of Monfils, another wildly talented player who is more interested in being a showman than a champion.
 

cc0509

Talk Tennis Guru
We all know Nick's got the goods when he puts his mind to it. But the big question remains: how often will he be capable of doing that? There's more to winning big titles than just beating this version of Djokovic however satisfying that must be for him.
The point is the talent is there. It`s completely up to him how far he showcases that talent and how much effort he wants to put into being the best he can be and showing consistency day in and day out.

I agree with Annacone on this one. If you are just talking about tennis skills and talent, Kyrgios is the best I`ve seen since Federer. Too bad he doesn`t have Federer`s mindset and work ethic. If Kyrgios doesn`t focus his energies enough on tennis to at least win a couple of slams it will be one of the biggest wastes of talent I`ve ever seen in this sport. Just watch his shotmaking ability and realize he`s not even remotely serious 99% of the time. Imagine if he decided to get serious about tennis.
 

Deanjam

Professional
Depends on how you define talent. Nadal & Djokovic were better players at a younger age than Kyrgios. Gasquet and Stan have always shown great skill too, but both their careers show that talent counts for little if you don't have a brain in your head and courage in your heart.
 

bjsnider

Hall of Fame
This is how Annacone defines talent in this context: "the ability to hit all the shots, including a few that are not in the playbook, and the ability to create something out of nothing."

In that case, he may be right.
 

DRII

G.O.A.T.
more examples of the Fed fans in commentating and analyzing are having a very hard time of hiding their bias and preferences since his reasendance this year.

again, i don't expect neutrality, thats pretty much impossible, but its becoming a little ridiculous - especially from the more level headed analyst like Annacone.
 

wangs78

Hall of Fame
Sometimes having an abundance of talent is a curse in disguise, which I think is the case with Nick. As long as he believes he can win relying largely on his talent, which he can do now when he is young, he's not going to devote the time to training that he should. By the time he physically needs more training (I'd say in 4-5 years) it will be too late for him to achieve epic greatness. Too bad if that is what happens.
 

abmk

Bionic Poster
The point is the talent is there. It`s completely up to him how far he showcases that talent and how much effort he wants to put into being the best he can be and showing consistency day in and day out.

I agree with Annacone on this one. If you are just talking about tennis skills and talent, Kyrgios is the best I`ve seen since Federer. Too bad he doesn`t have Federer`s mindset and work ethic. If Kyrgios doesn`t focus his energies enough on tennis to at least win a couple of slams it will be one of the biggest wastes of talent I`ve ever seen in this sport. Just watch his shotmaking ability and realize he`s not even remotely serious 99% of the time. Imagine if he decided to get serious about tennis.
Are you serious ?You think he's more talented than nadal and djoko with his BH,RoS and movement ?

He doesn't have the ballstriking ability of either and obviously nowhere near the movement.

Is worse at the net as well, IMO.

Great serve, very good fh and can come up with some great shots, but not more talented than djoko/nadal.
 
It looks like he has more talent than he actually has as he is a big risk taker and doesn't appear to care that much. At the business end of major tournament we'll see what he's really made of. He needs to play better percentage tennis going forward.

I find it hard to warm to the fellow but in the recent Djoko match he had a steeliness to him which I had not see before and he was playing without too much unnecessary flamboyance.
 

mightyrick

Legend
Oh jeez... Annacone. Let's correct the statement. First, Roger Federer is the most talented player since Rod Laver arrived.

Nick Kyrgios is the most-talented player since Marcelo Rios arrived.
 

DRII

G.O.A.T.
Are you serious ?You think he's more talented than nadal and djoko with his BH,RoS and movement ?

He doesn't have the ballstriking ability of either and obviously nowhere near the movement.

Is worse at the net as well, IMO.

Great serve, very good fh and can come up with some great shots, but not more talented than djoko/nadal.
my gosh, whats gotten into you?
 

ZiggyStardust

Professional
Kyrgios has heaps of talent. Even more importantly in my eyes, he has that certain flamboyance and arrogance to him that I feel a great champion absolutely must have. He considers himself every bit the equal of the big three, and in their H2H matches at least, has backed it up.
However, when talent is extremely raw, it can seem greater than it actually is. Kyrgios' technique is severely lacking in several areas, especially on accelerating the ball out of uncomfortable zones ( which is why he pretty much junkballs 90% of the time in baseline rallies), and the ROS. With these deficiencies, he gets by purely on shot making talent, which might make him seem more flamboyant/talented than a Nadal whose fundamentals are forged in steel. Once he clarifies his technique and refines his game further (as I really, really hope he will) he will seem less mercurial and talented but be a much better player.
I think right at this point it is very difficult to compare the talent of a Kyrgios with that of a Nadal/Djokovic.
 
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hugobosstachini

Professional
This is how Annacone defines talent in this context: "the ability to hit all the shots, including a few that are not in the playbook, and the ability to create something out of nothing."

In that case, he may be right.
Exactly. That's why this word is just empty of any sense. Maturity is a talent, canalizing your energy, intelligence, stress control, perseverance, dedication... things a player like Federer tend to have at an early stage but that few talk about because all they can see is cute shots.

So...

Talent isn't just about hitting fancy shots between the legs.
Indeed, that's the reason why, at the end of the day...

...it's quite apparent he's vastly more talented than either Djoker or Nadal.
No one cares, except the talent wankers, because, history books don't remember talent. For that matter, I remember a player like Nalbandian...

...talent-wise, he's off the charts. Just watch him play, it's effortless for him.
His game was said to be effortless too by the tennis establishment. Yet, his last best result was sending a person to the hospital and no casual or semi-expert fan can factually remember what his results were without resorting to Wikipedia somehow.
 

Purplemonster

Hall of Fame
This is how Annacone defines talent in this context: "the ability to hit all the shots, including a few that are not in the playbook, and the ability to create something out of nothing."

In that case, he may be right.
Would that include volleys ??
 

accidental

Hall of Fame
Kyrgios is almost 22

Number of Grand Slams: 0
Number of Grand Slam Finals or Semi Finals: 0
Number of Master: 0

I haven't run the numbers but how do these stats measure up against 22 year old Djokovic, Murray and Nadal?
 
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