another federer thread - wimbledon or olympics

big ted

Hall of Fame
i think its clear these are his two main goals this year. which do you think he'd rather have?
which do you think he has a better chance at? olympics is best of 3 sets until the finals, yes?
so maybe that might be easier on him now that he'll be 40 this year...
hopefully japan will pick a surface that will favor him since hes with uniqlo lol...
 

big ted

Hall of Fame
I wonder what other all time greats like Lendl, Mac, Connors and Borg thought of OG during their prime years.
alot of them didnt even care about the AO so it was a different time lol..
back then it was all about winning matches and the #1 ranking..

even tho roger doesnt have an olympic gold in singles i still think hed rather win another W if he had to choose
 

ibbi

Legend
I think he pretty much gave up on the Olympics, and is only really feigning interest on account of his sponsor. The final will also be best of 3 this year so his chances will be better, but I’m pretty sure it’ll just be played where they have the Tokyo 500 every year and I don’t know that he’s got much of a record there?

I’m sure he personally would rather have Wimbledon. He’s like totally in love with that place, and I’m sure he would want the chance to go out on a high there.
 

Milanez82

Hall of Fame
Depends how patriotic he is
In these tough corona times lifting gold medal for the Swiss would be unmatched.
 

ChrisRF

Hall of Fame
If he wins Wimbledon and that’s somehow enough to keep the Slam record for the rest of his life, then Wimbledon.

If he loses the Slam record anyway, then Olympic Gold.
 

JackGates

Legend
Wimbledon or Olympics? LOL

:)

Grand slam win over anything else.
Also, players want to make themselves feel better and also they are diplomatic and they don't want to criticize the event, so of course anybody who wins gold over W title would praise it, doesn't mean it's suddenly better.

But even if some player personally prefers some event, that also doesn't mean anything anyway. Fed had personal feelings about the gold at the time, and Fed is popular so of course it was artificially elevated.

Prestige doesn't mean much. I mean Queen Elizabeth has prestige, so what, what's her job anyway, does she even do anything?
Shapiro went to Harvard lol, but any average decent streamer has better political takes than him.
 

BeatlesFan

Bionic Poster
Wimbledon or Olympics? LOL

Grand slam win over anything else.
I agree, why is this even a question? If the 2020 summer Olympics were held in in Los Angeles or the Bahamas, Fed wouldn't even be mentioning it or bothering to attend (think Uniglo for Tokyo). Wimbledon or any slam beats the Olympics by 500 trillion percentage points. Also, a slam winner nets 2,000 ranking points. The Olympic gold medalist? A big fat zero.
 

ChrisRF

Hall of Fame
I agree, why is this even a question? If the 2020 summer Olympics were held in in Los Angeles or the Bahamas, Fed wouldn't even be mentioning it or bothering to attend (think Uniglo for Tokyo). Wimbledon or any slam beats the Olympics by 500 trillion percentage points. Also, a slam winner nets 2,000 ranking points. The Olympic gold medalist? A big fat zero.
The Olympics are the biggest event in World Sport, and Federer (like many other top players) often said how much it means to him. Do you really think Federer cares one bit about ranking points over achievements? And who even thinks about a sponsor at the same time he thinks about winning an Olympic medal? Especially if the contract is already safe for the next 10 years and he doesn’t have to care about anything other than glory and honor anyway at this stage. Tokyo is a coincidence, and if not injured he would definitely play the Olympics anywhere on the planet.

As I said, the Slam record matters most, there is no doubt about it. But if he loses it anyway, I think Olympic Gold is more important than another Wimbledon title. Here I can only talk for myself, and I can safely say that if I had 8 Wimbledon titles, I wouldn’t care if I could get 9 if I had to miss on an Olympic Gold medal otherwise. Maybe 10 would be another question, but even then I would likely take the Gold.
 

big ted

Hall of Fame
i agree the olympics is important to federer and alot of players
i think he might even choose an olympic gold over another AO title..
even tho all GS are weighed the same, the players dont do that...
rafa didnt even play the USO last year but he rarely fails to play the FO..
roger skips the FO, and does what he can to play W...
would rafa rather have another olympic gold singles or a USO title? i think maybe olympic gold..:unsure:
just my opinon of course tho lol
 

MeatTornado

G.O.A.T.
I'm a HUGE proponent of the Olympics. I think it means a ton to the players even if fans don't weigh them that highly for legacy points.

However, there's not even a debate here. Maybe if he already had 10 Wimbledons and had the slam record by a country mile, he would rather round out his resume with a Gold Medal. But in a 20-20-17 race? And with his last match at Wimbledon being maybe the most heartbreaking of his career? Literally nothing would feel better than to lift that pineapple again.
 

skaj

Legend
Tough choice - winning the biggest title missing from his resume and completing a career super slam, or adding another slam now when Nadal has equaled his record.
 

JackGates

Legend
No, they were looking at the babes in the crowd. Not some idiotic piece of metal that is supposed to symbolize the universal stupidity of non-existent patriotism.
I don't know if America's patriotism is non existent. Half of Americans sleep with their flag lol.
 

PilotPete

Hall of Fame
I don't know if America's patriotism is non existent. Half of Americans sleep with their flag lol.
Sorry, mis-worded. It should be stupidity of patriotism that shouldn't exist! Countries are fake, we all evolved from Africans and we are simply human.
 

NADALalot

Hall of Fame
I heard someone say Djokovic has publicly cried in 2 Olympics after losses.
I remember seeing one of those occasions.
Whereas I don't remember him ever crying after a slam loss.
 

JackGates

Legend
Sorry, mis-worded. It should be stupidity of patriotism that shouldn't exist! Countries are fake, we all evolved from Africans and we are simply human.
Oh ok, that makes a lot more sense. Yeah, I agree. Some invisible lines that were created by pointless wars?

But to be fair in other sports Olympic gold is very important, the sport revolves around it, nothing to do with patriotism. Yeah in tennis it's fake, but for example table tennis or skiing or skating, there gold actually is about greatness and it doesn't have to do with patriotism, it's just the rarity of it and all competitors focusing on it is what makes it harder to win.

Maybe tennis should only have one major per year. This sort of devalues majors when you have so many of them. Jordan winning many rings is what makes him great. Winning 6 majors for example isn't close to being the goat.
 

skaj

Legend
No, they were looking at the babes in the crowd. Not some idiotic piece of metal that is supposed to symbolize the universal stupidity of non-existent patriotism.
So, what are you saying is that those guys were not as stupidly patriotic as Nadal, Djokovic, Federer and the other modern players? Or that they were, because it symbolizes the stupidity of non-existent patriotism?

And how about this idiotic piece of metal, what does that symbolize to you(I am not talking about the kitschy watch)?
 

Federev

Hall of Fame
i think its clear these are his two main goals this year. which do you think he'd rather have?
which do you think he has a better chance at? olympics is best of 3 sets until the finals, yes?
so maybe that might be easier on him now that he'll be 40 this year...
hopefully japan will pick a surface that will favor him since hes with uniqlo lol...
Wimbledon, NID
 

ChrisRF

Hall of Fame
No, they were looking at the babes in the crowd. Not some idiotic piece of metal that is supposed to symbolize the universal stupidity of non-existent patriotism.
As I already said in some other Olympics threads: The Olympic Games are the OPPOSITE of patriotism. They are one of the biggest events celebrating INTERNATIONALISM instead.

The symbolism is that people come in behind different flags during the opening ceremony and then become friends and walk out in random order not realated to their nations at the closing ceremony. Of course that’s a symbol and most athletes only care for their success.

But something like medal count is an unofficial construct mainly promoted by local media to give the viewers something to cheer for and therefore switch the TV on.

To your chicks reference: Yes, becoming "friends" with some chicks is on the to-do-list for some athletes at the Olympics, I admit that. :-D
 
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