Another massive moment?

That may be the second major match in two days where one of the big three simply didn’t look capable of beating a much younger opponent.

We’ve all seen it in the old days with Rosewall against Connors, McEnroe against Agassi, Agassi against Nadal, Federer against Zverev. Matches where, no matter what the older player did, they simply didn’t look capable of winning: they looked rather like a remnant of a previous generation whose time has passed.

This match had that feeling.

Is this the natural tennis order finally being restored again?
 

Towser83

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Djokovic will still win big titles but hes not young enough to roll through the entire season destroying everyone in his path and come through each war with hardly a scratch
 

Federer and Del Potro

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That may be the second major match in two days where one of the big three simply didn’t look capable of beating a much younger opponent.

We’ve all seen it in the old days with Rosewall against Connors, McEnroe against Agassi, Agassi against Nadal, Federer against Zverev. Matches where, no matter what the older player did, they simply didn’t look capable of winning: they looked rather like a remnant of a previous generation whose time has passed.

This match had that feeling.

Is this the natural tennis order finally being restored again?
Djokovic played at his very peak, there was just nothing he could do against the awesome power of Zverev. I think he played at the highest level I've ever seen. An absolutely awe inspiring, amazing match.
 
Djokovic played at his very peak, there was just nothing he could do against the awesome power of Zverev. I think he played at the highest level I've ever seen. An absolutely awe inspiring, amazing match.
Djokovic hadn't been broken in the entire tournament and only faced two breakpoints before the final. His level was highest we've ever seen. Certainly could have won the title if not for Zverev.
 
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Djokovic hadn't been broken in the entire tournament and only faced two breakpoints before the final. His level was highest we've ever seen. Certainly could have won the title if not for Zverev.
In fact both seemingly played the best tennis I've ever seen from anybody, ever. They would destroy any iteration of any other player that ever existed up to this point.
 
In fact both seemingly played the best tennis I've ever seen from anybody, ever. They would destroy any iteration of any other player that ever existed up to this point.
If only Nadal hadn’t retired all those years ago. He might have given him a game.
 

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Not feeling it.

The young guns are improving, there can be no doubt, but I still expect the Big Three to be formidable in some combination, and favour at least Djokovic and Nadal over Zverev and others in the Guranduh Sramaroo.
 

Chanwan

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That may be the second major match in two days where one of the big three simply didn’t look capable of beating a much younger opponent.

We’ve all seen it in the old days with Rosewall against Connors, McEnroe against Agassi, Agassi against Nadal, Federer against Zverev. Matches where, no matter what the older player did, they simply didn’t look capable of winning: they looked rather like a remnant of a previous generation whose time has passed.

This match had that feeling.

Is this the natural tennis order finally being restored again?
I think we should try not to overreact with every match. Yesterday, Djoko was almost unbeatable and would win every big title for the foreseeable future. Now, he's got almost no chance vs. a player he's rekt'ed twice in the last month. But as @vive le beau jeu ! wrote, it's probably not a coincidence that Djoko's last 3 losses are to Tsits, Khach and Zverev. @Meles may finally be on to something, but Djoko remains my pick for the guy to beat next year. But Zverev could well be his biggest threat, at the very least after Rafa.

Also, see what I'm saying with the repetitiveness of @Sabratha - it ain't the Lord's work.
 
@Chanwan I'm always amused when fans overreact to certain matches in recent times i.e. Zverev, Khachanov, Tsitsipas, Chung, Shapovalov, etc. only to flounder in other (big) tournaments with the big three winning the slams. This is just a pisstake of the Gore's yesterday's thread.
 

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Yeah but remember this is like the FedEx cup in golf remember the year Phil won the Tour championship which is the top 30 players in Eastlake but tiger won the FedEx cup which means he was the best player for the entire year as a body of work Joco won the year-end number one best player in the world
 

Chanwan

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@Chanwan I'm always amused when fans overreact to certain matches in recent times i.e. Zverev, Khachanov, Tsitsipas, Chung, Shapovalov, etc. only to flounder in other (big) tournaments with the big three winning the slams. This is just a pisstake of the Gore's yesterday's thread.
That said, I do believe in Zverev as I stated earlier in the week in 'the case for Zverev' (post 25)
 
Not feeling it.

The young guns are improving, there can be no doubt, but I still expect the Big Three to be formidable in some combination, and favour at least Djokovic and Nadal over Zverev and others in the Guranduh Sramaroo.

My prediction is that 2019 is the last year, when the big three will have something that resembles their previous aura.

After that it will be the surge of the Zverev, Tsitsipas, FAA, Chung etc., and the Big three will be content with having sneaked a title here and there.

I know that that sounds bold in the light of the fact that right now all four Majors are held by them, but I will risk a bolder prediction.

:cool:
 

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My prediction is that 2019 is the last year, when the big three will have something that resembles their previous aura.

After that it will be the surge of the Zverev, Tsitsipas, FAA, Chung etc., and the Big three will be content with having sneaked a title here and there.

I know that that sounds bold in the light of the fact that right now all four Majors are held by them, but I will risk a bolder prediction.

:cool:


I agree with that outlook. 2020 is the year. (#prediction etc. yada yada)
 

Zara

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Zverev of course will fall to Nadal on clay, but yes he may break Nole's heart in Australia.

Slams are still for the most consistent and mentally stronger players, namely the big 3. I don't think there will be a great shift next year in that regard. Nole will still be very solid at AO and Rafa at RG. They are both still playing very well.

I am hoping a great return for Andy next year and make some noise at Wimbledon. Really hoping the same for Sasha as far as any Slam is concerned. I believe he has a decent chance in any of the Slams.
 
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Wouldn't say that until it happens in a slam final.

However zverev has shown he can do it in the future. He played phenomenal today.
 
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