any current pro finish high school?

teto29

Rookie
i was wondering at what grade most pros drop school. do you know of any that actually finished high school except for john isner?
 

Chace

Hall of Fame
i was wondering at what grade most pros drop school. do you know of any that actually finished high school except for john isner?
The Bryan brothers finished highschool. I believe Sam Querrey did as well. I know Roddick went to highschool but i don't think he finished, i think he got his GED...at least that's what i gathered from a phone interview he did with Gimelstob during the US's last Davis Cup match. Blake graduated highschool.
 

OliverSimon

Hall of Fame
The Bryan brothers finished highschool. I believe Sam Querrey did as well. I know Roddick went to highschool but i don't think he finished, i think he got his GED...at least that's what i gathered from a phone interview he did with Gimelstob during the US's last Davis Cup match. Blake graduated highschool.
Ya Blake went to highschool, then we went to Harvard!
 

Fee

Legend
The Bryan brothers finished highschool. I believe Sam Querrey did as well. I know Roddick went to highschool but i don't think he finished, i think he got his GED...at least that's what i gathered from a phone interview he did with Gimelstob during the US's last Davis Cup match. Blake graduated highschool.
Andy graduated from high school (they were teasing each other as those two usually do regardless of who is listening or where they are).
 

egn

Hall of Fame
Devin Britton, I'm sure there are a handful who could have not sure off hand. Many go on to finish school after their careers are over.
 

OKUSA

Hall of Fame
in his book he stopped going to school when he was 13 or 14 i don't remember to practice full-time and travel the country to play tournaments
 
Its nice to see guys like Isner who attened Georgia have a great college career and now a succesful Pro career. I think with most pro's they probably graduated from High School but they were home schooled or in Academys. But even if they were in Academys they are being schooled in classrooms or in Virtual school. I dont know how it works in Europe school is mandatory like here. I would be interested to know how many Pros attented regular schools not Home school or Virtual school.
 
I read in the papers that Andy Murray does not have any formal school qualifcations (Highers, GCSE etc), so even if he did get home schooled he did not have anything to fall back on if his tennis career did not take off.

I wonder how the tennis world would look if there was a requirement for players to have attained at least GCSE level education before they joined the ATP/WTA.
 

Ardith

New User
I read in the papers that Andy Murray does not have any formal school qualifcations (Highers, GCSE etc), so even if he did get home schooled he did not have anything to fall back on if his tennis career did not take off.

I wonder how the tennis world would look if there was a requirement for players to have attained at least GCSE level education before they joined the ATP/WTA.
How did he get away with that? I thought it was mandatory to sit your GCSE's or whatever the Scottish equivalent is. Unless you mean he failed them, in which case not good Andy not good, even the worst students can usually get at least few F's.

Most sports people are pretty uneducated, to do well at sport you need to have tunnel vision from a very young age, that doesn't lend itself well to learning about algebra or the Versaille treaty. I wouldn't expect to be able to have a wide ranging intelligent conversation with an athelete and if i could I'd asume they were a journeyman.
 

MajinX

Professional
it sounds like the OP wants to drop school for tennis... only the top 100 maybe makes a decent enough winning to only play tennis. If you arent already playing the junior usopen and other grandslams and got urself a junior ranking of 100 and ur like 16.. just finish school.
 

jamauss

Hall of Fame
I didn't really learn anything useful/helpful in my last 3 or 4 years of public education here in the USA (high school, basically) so I think plenty of tennis players can be as "book smart" as anybody else that graduated from a public US high school even if they don't have the equivalent of a high school diploma. I'm sure traveling the world while on tour makes most of these guys grow up pretty fast anyway whether they want to or not.
 

Elina

Rookie
Jarkko Nieminen has finished high school (or the Finnish equivalent of high school). He was very determined to get that done although he was starting his pro career at the same time. :)
 
it sounds like the OP wants to drop school for tennis... only the top 100 maybe makes a decent enough winning to only play tennis. If you arent already playing the junior usopen and other grandslams and got urself a junior ranking of 100 and ur like 16.. just finish school.
Not necessarily true,Djokovic played barely any Junior Grandslams because he couldn't afford it.He played mostly on the Futures circuit until he made the grade for the ATP tour
 

OKUSA

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I didn't really learn anything useful/helpful in my last 3 or 4 years of public education here in the USA (high school, basically) so I think plenty of tennis players can be as "book smart" as anybody else that graduated from a public US high school even if they don't have the equivalent of a high school diploma. I'm sure traveling the world while on tour makes most of these guys grow up pretty fast anyway whether they want to or not.
i agree the USA education system is bunk, it's more grinding than learning. none of the stuff in high school is used for university, other than math if you go into a science/math field. hell, a lot of people i know passed high school and they couldn't even write a research paper, they learn all that stuff in college haha
 

OKUSA

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what good is knowing and then forgetting everything you learn in high school? i'm sure you don't remember the date of the first meeting of the virginia house of burgess or whatever, but you had to during high school

they all seem fluent in english, something most high school graduates seem to lack
 

Ledigs

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I always assumed tennis pros were pretty well educated as only the educated class plays tennis in the US (too expensive to learn otherwise)
 
I didn't really learn anything useful/helpful in my last 3 or 4 years of public education here in the USA (high school, basically) .
Agreed, I wish I would have just got my GED and then went to college. I wasted so much time and energy in highschool that could have gone towards graduating college earlier!

USA public school (state funded) are a waste!
 

Fee

Legend
So does this means pros are dumb as rocks???
depends on the pro I suppose

I always assumed tennis pros were pretty well educated as only the educated class plays tennis in the US (too expensive to learn otherwise)
or they could just be 'dumb jocks' skating by on the academics.

I suppose it's hard to generalize. In the US, most graduate from High School, some get at least a year of college, a few get university degrees. I wonder if there are some GED guys amongst the US players? I've never really paid that much attention to that part of it, I just kind of figured they would all be HS grads at least.
 
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nikdom

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Interesting topic. Thought of this after seeing the thread where folks are parsing Serena's words. How educated is she? I don't see a point in parsing the words of someone whose intellectual capacity is rudimentary.
 

purge

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doesnt really speak for the quality of schools when you compare it to the football players who mostly finished school and are still 100 times dumber than any tennis player ive seen.. :S
 

MajinX

Professional
doesnt really speak for the quality of schools when you compare it to the football players who mostly finished school and are still 100 times dumber than any tennis player ive seen.. :S
to be fair intelligence is too complicated to just "rank" as dumber and smarter, the football players maybe educated but not generally more intelligent than a tennis player who has just finished highschool for example, application of knowledge and life experiences/perception (and a magnitude of other stuff) can really factor into one's perceived intelligence. Not to mention all the generalizing and sterotypes we automaticly apply to what we see and feel is accurate to a certain individual.
 

purge

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to be fair intelligence is too complicated to just "rank" as dumber and smarter, the football players maybe educated but not generally more intelligent than a tennis player who has just finished highschool for example, application of knowledge and life experiences/perception (and a magnitude of other stuff) can really factor into one's perceived intelligence. Not to mention all the generalizing and sterotypes we automaticly apply to what we see and feel is accurate to a certain individual.
not if you listen to interviews from guys like lukas podolski or lothar matthäus lol
 

purge

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He is talking about American football players, who don't turn pro until after they graduate from college/university.
i figured as much but still. it even strengthens my point since alot of the people who appear to be as dumb as a brick wall in football (and with football i mean real football, not amerocan football. football is where you use your foot) finished school. how they did is a mistery to me tho oO

most american football players even graduated college and still.. alot of them dont seem all that bright :/
 

Crisstti

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I read in the papers that Andy Murray does not have any formal school qualifcations (Highers, GCSE etc), so even if he did get home schooled he did not have anything to fall back on if his tennis career did not take off.

I wonder how the tennis world would look if there was a requirement for players to have attained at least GCSE level education before they joined the ATP/WTA.
Good thing they don't...

Did Murray's family have money?, 'cause if that's the case, no point in him finishing highschool instead of focusing on his tennis career.

I didn't really learn anything useful/helpful in my last 3 or 4 years of public education here in the USA (high school, basically) so I think plenty of tennis players can be as "book smart" as anybody else that graduated from a public US high school even if they don't have the equivalent of a high school diploma. I'm sure traveling the world while on tour makes most of these guys grow up pretty fast anyway whether they want to or not.
I agree. Nothing much useful to learn in highscool over here either. The way I see it, if a tennis player is doing well enough, they should just focus on their career.

Not finishing highschool has nothing to do with someone being dumb or not. Most people do finish it and are not exactly very smart.

Blake, the Bryans, Roddick, Nadal, Isner, Levine, Benjamin Becker, Querrey, and Fish, all graduated.
I don't think Nadal graduated. He certainly dropped out. If he finished it later somehow, I don't know (really don't think so though).

i figured as much but still. it even strengthens my point since alot of the people who appear to be as dumb as a brick wall in football (and with football i mean real football, not amerocan football. football is where you use your foot) finished school. how they did is a mistery to me tho oO
You don't need to be smart to finish highschool.
 

zcarzach

Semi-Pro
Agreed, I wish I would have just got my GED and then went to college. I wasted so much time and energy in highschool that could have gone towards graduating college earlier!

USA public school (state funded) are a waste!
But what kind of college would you have gotten into with a GED?
 

Emet74

Professional
The standards for high school education vary widely between countries. In the US you can "graduate" high school and barely know how to read and write, while other countries require you to pass serious exams to be awarded a degree.

As for Nadal, he has some kind of degree, not sure if it would be equivalent to US high school. He mentioned in his biography that it was important to his parents he get some qualifications and they sent him to a boarding school for a year or so to make sure he concentrated on it. He managed to pass the exams there. His mom wanted to him to take exams to get to the next level (college prep or sth like that) and gave him some books to study on his own time, but he "accidentally" left them on a plane somewhere in east asia and that was the end of that, lol.

As for Fed, he was never a great student and felt school was a distraction from focusing on tennis and so quit at 16 which is when his tennis career really took off. He was ranked somewhere in the 50's as a junior when he dropped out, w/in a year he was junior #1. That said most folks don't realize that when Fed was 14 he had to go to school in a language he didn't know which is awful for kids. That he was able to learn French at a decent enough level to at least be passing his classes while also training seriously at the nat'l tennis academy is impressive IMO.
 

vernonbc

Legend
Milos Raonic graduated from high school eighteen months early. He took extra classes (and advanced level courses) and graduated at the top of his class even though he had barely turned 16. Instead of accepting a college scholarship he moved to the Tennis Centre in Montreal and started doing some touring but his parents insisted he continue his education and he took online classes in finance and economics up until last year. He's a very smart young man.
 
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