any filipinos here?

skittles

Rookie
Flip from pangasinan Holler! btw... neone here got a myspace? i dont really have any tennis buddies on myspace and i wanna represent Tennis. Peace
 

gmlasam

Hall of Fame
What ever happen to Cecil Mamit? He is the only Filipino that actually played the circuit that I know of.

Why is that? Is tennis popular in the Philippines? There aren't if not all any Filipinos playing the pro circuit.

That's too bad. I've played with some Filipinos, and they really move around the court.
 

atatu

Legend
I'm not sure, but I think Eric Taino is Filipino. You guys can correct me if I'm wrong. The Junio bros. from Fresno State played some satellite events also.
 

jayserinos99

Hall of Fame
^^ i think to answer your question, i believe it's the funding issue that prevents a lot of filipinos to play on the tour. i used to hit with a guy who played for the PI davis cup team a while ago and it was all about the lack of money to travel around and what not. there were a few pinoys that played college ball besides mamiit; rex calaunan played for UW a while ago.
 

Noelle

Hall Of Fame
What about the problem with visas? I think it might be hard for a person with a Filipino passport to get a visa just to be able to play at tennis tournaments around the world.
 

gmlasam

Hall of Fame
jayserinos99 said:
^^ i think to answer your question, i believe it's the funding issue that prevents a lot of filipinos to play on the tour. i used to hit with a guy who played for the PI davis cup team a while ago and it was all about the lack of money to travel around and what not. there were a few pinoys that played college ball besides mamiit; rex calaunan played for UW a while ago.
Was Rex Calaunan actually ranked like Mamiit? Did he even play the pro circuit? I think Mamiit is the only Filipino that actually made pro after college. I recall seeing him play against Paul Goldstein.

Mamit was even endorsed by Adidas and Wilson. Is it that difficult to get endorsement in the Philippines or companies such as Nike, Adidas, Wilson ignore prospects in the Philippines and instead look elsewhere in other Asian countries such as Japan, India, China or even Korea?
 

gmlasam

Hall of Fame
Noelle said:
What about the problem with visas? I think it might be hard for a person with a Filipino passport to get a visa just to be able to play at tennis tournaments around the world.
How is that any different from other Nationalities in Asia with their Visas? Why is the Philippines the only one with such Visa problems?
 

jayserinos99

Hall of Fame
gmlasam said:
Was Rex Calaunan actually ranked like Mamiit? Did he even play the pro circuit? I think Mamiit is the only Filipino that actually made pro after college. I recall seeing him play against Paul Goldstein.

Mamit was even endorsed by Adidas and Wilson. Is it that difficult to get endorsement in the Philippines or companies such as Nike, Adidas, Wilson ignore prospects in the Philippines and instead look elsewhere in other Asian countries such as Japan, India, China or even Korea?
well, mamiit turned pro after his freshman year. i don't think calaunan went pro though. as far as endorsements in the PI, after talking with the former PI davis cupper he said it was pretty difficult to get the funding, not so sure about the visas.
 

Noelle

Hall Of Fame
gmlasam said:
How is that any different from other Nationalities in Asia with their Visas? Why is the Philippines the only one with such Visa problems?
I guess Filipinos have a bad reputation when it comes to international travel, mainly because of the problem of illegal immigration.

For example, it's extremely difficult to get a tourist visa to the United States. You need to schedule an interview with a consul several months before your trip, a stack of documents is required to show you have property and bank assets in the Philippines (they require this to make sure you have something you'll need to return to and to make sure you have enough money for your stay and won't have to work there to get money), and even if you have these, there's a chance the consul will have a bad feeling about you and simply deny you a visa, no explanations given.

If we had a strong tennis federation in the Philippines I could believe we could swing a few visas for the top Filipino players, but so far I don't see such a thing.
 

bookem

Rookie
Hey--- a thread near/dear to my heart! A few thoughts on the various topics raised in this thread:

1. Filipinos here?. Anyone who's traveled around has most likely seen/heard/spoken to Filipinos around (and I mean AROUND) the world. After all, aren't we the world's largest supplier of skilled and educated (and underutilized) workers? So I guess it shouldn't be any surprise that there are some lurking in these boards....

2. Pinoy players. Mamiit may indeed be the only ATP-level player but there have been several kababayans at the US collegiate level. In the 70s I recall Mackey Dominguez playing in IN somewhere and Alex (can't remember the surname) also playing...... which leads to....

3. Pinoys playing. Has anyone else noticed that, for the most part, almost any community has a significant number of Filipino tennis aficionados? I've traveled extensively throughout the US and world and have been amazed. When I meet Pinoys, then mention tennis, invariably there is a group who plays. I've seen it in SF (of course Daly City), NYC, Houston, Rome, Hong Kong, Singapore, Sydney, Dubai, and, of all places, Pohnpei and Majuro (look it up). Woohoo Filipinos!

I think it's incredible that Pinoys are for the most part, warm and friendly, eager to assimilate into the culture of the country they happen to inhabit, yet maintain their identity as Filipinos although they would probably squabble into provincial differences if left to themselves ;).
 

mabuhay

Rookie
cecil mamiit and eric taino grew up here in u.s. so i guess it was easier for them to compete in pro. players from the philippines needs funding from the corrupt government. i heard that there are lots of good filipino players but the problem is the cost of travel. china is emerging into the sports of tennis and i hope the we have some good filipino players that will emerge soon.

i talked to cecil and eric taino at the mercedes-benz cup here in l.a. last year, they're pretty nice guys to talk to. cecil still uses "po" when he talked to my dad :)

go pinoys!
 

gmlasam

Hall of Fame
mabuhay said:
cecil mamiit and eric taino grew up here in u.s. so i guess it was easier for them to compete in pro. players from the philippines needs funding from the corrupt government. i heard that there are lots of good filipino players but the problem is the cost of travel. china is emerging into the sports of tennis and i hope the we have some good filipino players that will emerge soon.

i talked to cecil and eric taino at the mercedes-benz cup here in l.a. last year, they're pretty nice guys to talk to. cecil still uses "po" when he talked to my dad :)

go pinoys!
What is "po"? Is that like a dialect?
 

Phil

Hall of Fame
No, American as in American. Color doesn't make a difference. If you want to hyphenate CM as a Filipino-American, go ahead if you think that somehow makes him closer to you, but he's an American. I'm not a German/Spanish/Russian-American...I'm American. Tiger woods is listed in the golf scores as "American", not Thai-African-American, etc., etc. That hyphenated shiat is annoying.
 
I was just asking a question...Saying he is Filipino-American or just American doesn't really matter to me. The fact that he is filipino does...I'm pretty sure a lot of people are proud of their heritage and use the hyphen. I'm sorry that yours got lost along the way but don't get mad. Maybe its something you don't understand I don't know. "I'm Proud to be Filipino-American...." I was born in the PI but am no naturialized what does that make me?
 

Phil

Hall of Fame
I'm proud of my heritage, too. Nothing wrong with that, and you can call yourself anything you want, but I suppose my grandparents' and parents' generations were most proud to be AMERICAN. Immigrants built the country, and became Americans, and that, more than anything, was a source of pride. I don't see that as much nowadays. Again, call yourself whatever you want to, but there must be some reason why you're living in San Jose, CA USA.
 

ShooterMcMarco

Hall of Fame
<------- filipino

me and my sister were born in california. some filipinos end up asking me if i'm filipino or not, kinda strange considering the fact that both of my parents are from the p.i
 

bc-05

Semi-Pro
its called nationality not citizenship.. duhh.. when they ask what nationality are u that means the country where ur originally from.. when they ask where r u from (if overseas).. then its called for ur citizenship identity.. like me.. im australian but both parents are italian.. so whats that mean? im not really australian.. maybe australian citizenship but not raised as an aussie.. coz theres a big difference.. aussie kicks out their child when they turn 18 italians don't.. most aussies don't care about money they care about how much welfare they can get from the government.. italians dont.. however thoguh when im overseas.. someone comes up to me and say where u from.. offcourse i would say australia!
 

gmlasam

Hall of Fame
Sometimes I laugh when people ask my Grandfather his citizenship. He says " I'm American " with a strong German accent. They kinda smile at him when they hear his accent.

I consider myself American though my heritage is German. I do not say Im German American.
 

rommil

Legend
gmlasam said:
Sometimes I laugh when people ask my Grandfather his citizenship. He says " I'm American " with a strong German accent. They kinda smile at him when they hear his accent.

I consider myself American though my heritage is German. I do not say Im German American.
Well if you were born and raised here then I can understand that but some of us were born and grew up in a different country. I'm a naturalized US citizen so that would make me an American but the Filipino culture and values in me are still strong. I wouldn,t have it any other way. People call themselves or want to be called in some ways because they have reasons. If some people think that "hyphenated nationalities or citizenship" is absurd or what ever description they attach to it, then it basically is an opinion.
 

chad shaver

Semi-Pro
Noelle said:
I guess Filipinos have a bad reputation when it comes to international travel, mainly because of the problem of illegal immigration.

For example, it's extremely difficult to get a tourist visa to the United States. You need to schedule an interview with a consul several months before your trip, a stack of documents is required to show you have property and bank assets in the Philippines (they require this to make sure you have something you'll need to return to and to make sure you have enough money for your stay and won't have to work there to get money), and even if you have these, there's a chance the consul will have a bad feeling about you and simply deny you a visa, no explanations given.

If we had a strong tennis federation in the Philippines I could believe we could swing a few visas for the top Filipino players, but so far I don't see such a thing.
It's the same thing trying to get here from any country. I was engaged to a girl from the Dominican Republic. It took three years to get her an Alien Fianceé (sp?) Visa. There were lots and lots of paper, lots and lots of standing in line, a flat rejection the first time, and a final approval 2 years after the initial rejection. Did I mention that the INS (Immigrationa and Naturalization Service) is a part of the Department of Justice? Trust me, they treated ME like a possible criminal, too. All that shhhhtuff is expensive, too.
 

nw tennis

New User
Pinoy here; useful link

Nice to see so many Filipinos in the house. How many of us miss playing on those shell courts back home?

Here's a link that might be helpful.
http://www.angelfire.com/id/ustc/philtahistory.htm

It speaks to some of the issues raised here, about the state of Philippine tennis. During the 80s, when I lived in Guam, I was able to see many of their top players play, including Rod Rafael, Felix Barrientos, Roland So, Manuel Tolentino and Joseph Lizardo and Andres Battad. Many, most notably So and Barrientos, were quite competitive in the states as juniors or collegians, but never achieved great success as professionals. They played Davis Cup and many satellite and challenger-level tour events. I do know some of them are still involved in the sport. Andres Battad runs a tennis school out of Hong Kong and the Philippines.

By the way, does anyone out there know where Rex Calaunan is, and what he's doing tennis-wise? I used to hit with him regularly when he was a 10- to 12-year-old junior player in Guam. I lost track after he went to the UW, then transferred back to the Bay Area and played for St. Mary's.
 

mabuhay

Rookie
nw tennis said:
Nice to see so many Filipinos in the house. How many of us miss playing on those shell courts back home?
i don't miss it because i haven't played on it, LOL! i started playing here in the US so i have no clue. how is it anyways comparing to other surfaces?
 

nw tennis

New User
Shell courts play a lot like clay, as far as speed and bounce. But shell courts feel more sandy than clay courts.
I learned the game on Florida clay, and then hard courts. I played on shell for the first time when i was in my 20s and visiting the Philippines.
 

mabuhay

Rookie
nw tennis said:
Shell courts play a lot like clay, as far as speed and bounce. But shell courts feel more sandy than clay courts.
I learned the game on Florida clay, and then hard courts. I played on shell for the first time when i was in my 20s and visiting the Philippines.
sounds interesting :) i will definitely try it next time i visit the philippines, which i don't know when..lol
 

rommil

Legend
Here's a funny story...I went to visit relatives in New Jersey and my cousin invited me to play in their "socials" and it just so happened that Eric Taino was there. Anyways, my cousin played mixed dubs against Eric and this middle aged woman. Safe to say Eric adjusted his game to everybody else's pace. The kicker was my cousin did not know who Eric was and when they got done, my cousin said to us"That guy is good", refering to Eric. Everybody just burst laughing.
 

gmlasam

Hall of Fame
rommil said:
Here's a funny story...I went to visit relatives in New Jersey and my cousin invited me to play in their "socials" and it just so happened that Eric Taino was there. Anyways, my cousin played mixed dubs against Eric and this middle aged woman. Safe to say Eric adjusted his game to everybody else's pace. The kicker was my cousin did not know who Eric was and when they got done, my cousin said to us"That guy is good", refering to Eric. Everybody just burst laughing.
Hmmm...now you all can laugh at me as well, but who the hell is Eric Taino??? He is a ranked ATP Pro? The only Filipino I know of that actually made Pro and was ranked was Cecil Mamit. Does Eric play as good as him?
 

mabuhay

Rookie
gmlasam said:
Hmmm...now you all can laugh at me as well, but who the hell is Eric Taino??? He is a ranked ATP Pro? The only Filipino I know of that actually made Pro and was ranked was Cecil Mamit. Does Eric play as good as him?
yes, eric taino is a ranked ATP pro. i think he's career high was probably ranked somewhere in 120's and mamiit was around 70's. he's pretty good, saw him two years ago at the mercedes benz cup here in l.a. and he beat hyung taik lee. i also saw mamiit and taino played an exhibition match in pacific palm resort (city of industry) probably 2 yrs. ago. it was pretty nice but the rain stopped the match :(
 

tennis-n-sc

Professional
Why go to the trouble of becoming an American citizen if you want to retain all your former culture, language, allegiance, etc. I think that is what a lot of American's have a problem with. Most of us are from somewhere else but our first generation relatives only wanted to be American. That is the issue with a lot of today's immigrants. They want to come for all the material offerings but don't want to really be American in heart and soul. Nothing wrong with being proud of your heritage but when you come to America, come all the way.
 
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