Any Players from the past/present who should've used a one hander over there 2 hander BH

[Romix]

I personally think for players in the past I'd choose Tsonga and Del Potro.

For Tsonga i always felt his 2 hander let him down on many opportunities to get a slam. I felt a lot of times his power on his bh was cur in half compared to fh. There are a few clips of him ripping 1hbh while on the run on tube.

For Del Potro mainly injuries is the reason why since he could flex his wrist like he could before the wrist injury. There is video of him hitting a solid 1hbh in training as well. Similar to Tsonga after his injury he had to rely on the slice almost exclusively.
As for current players I'd go with berrettini and fritz.
For berrettini it's obvious his 2hbh is his weakness and nowhere nearly as powerful, consistent or effective as his fh. He has a decent slice and similar to tsonga there are clips of him hitting 1hbh on the run.

As for Fritz this is mainly due to seeing him ripping 1hbh recently. He has good technique and he'd be more fun to watch i think. Even though his 2hbh is one of the best.

Obviously this is just for fun and not to be taken seriously.

Who would u think would benefit from using a 1hander over 2hander

 

[Red Rick]

Del Potro's right wrist is gonna feel awesome doing a 1 hander guaranteed.

 

[Arak]

I’ve seen Ruud hit some great one handers in practice.

 

[ghostofMecir]

I personally think for players in the past I'd choose Tsonga and Del Potro.

For Tsonga i always felt his 2 hander let him down on many opportunities to get a slam. I felt a lot of times his power on his bh was cur in half compared to fh. There are a few clips of him ripping 1hbh while on the run on tube.

For Del Potro mainly injuries is the reason why since he could flex his wrist like he could before the wrist injury. There is video of him hitting a solid 1hbh in training as well. Similar to Tsonga after his injury he had to rely on the slice almost exclusively.
As for current players I'd go with berrettini and fritz.
For berrettini it's obvious his 2hbh is his weakness and nowhere nearly as powerful, consistent or effective as his fh. He has a decent slice and similar to tsonga there are clips of him hitting 1hbh on the run.

As for Fritz this is mainly due to seeing him ripping 1hbh recently. He has good technique and he'd be more fun to watch i think. Even though his 2hbh is one of the best.

Obviously this is just for fun and not to be taken seriously.

Who would u think would benefit from using a 1hander over 2hander

Not a single player would benefit from having a single hand or compared to a two hander as the deficit on return alone is too great

 

[nolefam_2024]

Not a single player would benefit from having a single hand or compared to a two hander as the deficit on return alone is too great

Thank you..

End thread

 

[Aabye5]

Thank you..

End thread

Nole fans are terrified of the one-hander

Federer...Wawrinka...Thiem...heck, even Richard Gasquet has more wins over Novak than Monfils.

 

[nolefam_2024]

Nole fans are terrified of the one-hander

Federer...Wawrinka...Thiem...heck, even Richard Gasquet has more wins over Novak than Monfils.

Yes shaking in our boots

 

[Aabye5]

Not a single player would benefit from having a single hand or compared to a two hander as the deficit on return alone is too great

BS. Don't look at Tsitsipas and put all one-hander players in the same boat. Grigor is a better returner than Zverev, and his one-hander isn't even the best.

Heck, Berrettini is better than Rune in return stats...who has the better backhand there?

 

[dr. godmode]

Stevie J as mentioned by the man himself

 

[Aabye5]

I personally think for players in the past I'd choose Tsonga and Del Potro.

For Tsonga i always felt his 2 hander let him down on many opportunities to get a slam. I felt a lot of times his power on his bh was cur in half compared to fh. There are a few clips of him ripping 1hbh while on the run on tube.

For Del Potro mainly injuries is the reason why since he could flex his wrist like he could before the wrist injury. There is video of him hitting a solid 1hbh in training as well. Similar to Tsonga after his injury he had to rely on the slice almost exclusively.
As for current players I'd go with berrettini and fritz.
For berrettini it's obvious his 2hbh is his weakness and nowhere nearly as powerful, consistent or effective as his fh. He has a decent slice and similar to tsonga there are clips of him hitting 1hbh on the run.

As for Fritz this is mainly due to seeing him ripping 1hbh recently. He has good technique and he'd be more fun to watch i think. Even though his 2hbh is one of the best.

Obviously this is just for fun and not to be taken seriously.

Who would u think would benefit from using a 1hander over 2hander

Nah, Fritz is better with a 2hbh.

Jack Draper and FAA might have benefitted though.

 

[nolefam_2024]

BS. Don't look at Tsitsipas and put all one-hander players in the same boat. Grigor is a better returner than Zverev, and his one-hander isn't even the best.

Heck, Berrettini is better than Rune in return stats...who has the better backhand there?

Lol

If rune is not returning better today how does that support your claim that single hander can return better than double?

Rune is a joke right now. Compare berretinni to top 10s

 

[JMR]

Federer...Wawrinka...Thiem...heck, even Richard Gasquet has more wins over Novak than Monfils.

Poor Gasquet. For a player with double digits in career titles, several year-end rankings in the top 10, and a handful of slam semifinals, Richard's cumulative record against the Big 3 is incredibly bad. 3-50! It's a sob story. (Not that Monfils is much better: 6-43.)

 

[Aabye5]

Lol

If rune is not returning better today how does that support your claim that single hander can return better than double?

Rune is a joke right now. Compare berretinni to top 10s

Noticed you ignored Grigor.

Why would I compare Berrettini to the top 10? The whole point is neither is known for having a great return. It's not just about the backhand.

 

[nolefam_2024]

Poor Gasquet. For a player with double digits in career titles, several year-end rankings in the top 10, and a handful of slam semifinals, Richard's cumulative record against the Big 3 is incredibly bad. 3-50! It's a sob story. (Not that Monfils is much better: 6-43.)

Wait

He didn't even win a single title above 250. Double digits mean nothing when he is vulturing.

 

[nolefam_2024]

Noticed you ignored Grigor.

Why would I compare Berrettini to the top 10? The whole point is neither is known for having a great return. It's not just about the backhand.

Grigor is good returner ?

His return is horrible right from the start. It's one of the reasons he never became top player. His serve especially and forehand are excellent.

 

[Aabye5]

Grigor is good returner ?

His return is horrible right from the start. It's one of the reasons he never became top player. His serve especially and forehand are excellent.

Grigor is more than passable this year. Not top 10, but then most players aren't.

 

[nolefam_2024]

Grigor is more than passable this year. Not top 10, but then most players aren't.

Not really a slam contender at all.

With rest of his game he would be easily a slam contender at least. At least for a year

Slam contender to me = hold + brk above 110

Dimitrov reached 109 this year on back of incredible service games.

When thiem started becoming top 10, I said Djokovic would be ranked higher than him in five years. That was back in 2016.

Bully that backhand wing simply. You should win more often than not.

 

[buscemi]

Ivanisevic and Sampras were both from the same era with somewhat similar styles of play. Each started with two handed backhands, with Sampras famously switching to a one-hander when he was a teenager, which is seen as really helping his net game. If Ivanisevic switched to a one hander at around the same time, would he have had more success (not to Sampras's level, but maybe winning 2-3 Majors instead of one)?

 

[ghostofMecir]

Ivanisevic and Sampras were both from the same era with somewhat similar styles of play. Each started with two handed backhands, with Sampras famously switching to a one-hander when he was a teenager, which is seen as really helping his net game. If Ivanisevic switched to a one hander at around the same time, would he have had more success (not to Sampras's level, but maybe winning 2-3 Majors instead of one)?

I think Gorman would have had less success—I don’t think he wins that Wimby with a one-hander.

 

[Sudacafan]

All of them.

 

[Pmasterfunk]

I’ve seen Ruud hit some great one handers in practice.

I also think Ruud. His backhand technique is a bit strange, he looks kinda cramped when he hits it. I honestly wonder if it’s a body type thing.

 

[Aabye5]

Not really a slam contender at all.

With rest of his game he would be easily a slam contender at least. At least for a year

Slam contender to me = hold + brk above 110

Dimitrov reached 109 this year on back of incredible service games.

When thiem started becoming top 10, I said Djokovic would be ranked higher than him in five years. That was back in 2016.

Bully that backhand wing simply. You should win more often than not.

You're the one who only thinks that Slam contenders are important not me. And I never really seen Grigor as a major contender.

 

[Sudacafan]

All of them.

I made a deeper analysis, and I have to say that I changed my mind.
I now believe that no player in tennis history should have used a one handed backhand, when knowing about the existence of the two handed backhand, except in the cases of waist circumferences greater than 125 cm.
Sorry for any inconveniencies.

 

[Lukhas]

I personally think for players in the past I'd choose Tsonga and Del Potro.

For Tsonga i always felt his 2 hander let him down on many opportunities to get a slam. I felt a lot of times his power on his bh was cur in half compared to fh. There are a few clips of him ripping 1hbh while on the run on tube.

Apparently Tsonga's sacroiliac articulation fused from the second part of his career onwards, which didn't allow him to rotate his upper body as much as he wanted to. He wasn't able to generate power when on the run with his backhand, therefore he improvised with the one-hander. He briefly talks about it early in this interview (in French).

 

[Romix]

Apparently Tsonga's sacroiliac articulation fused from the second part of his career onwards, which didn't allow him to rotate his upper body as much as he wanted to. He wasn't able to generate power when on the run with his backhand, therefore he improvised with the one-hander. He briefly talks about it early in this interview (in French).

Maybe a sign he should have never been a 2 hander

 

[SamprasisGOAT]

Radek Stepanek should have had a single hander

 

[ghostofMecir]

@Aabye5

I am not looking at Tsitispas— I am looking at the entirety of the top 100 and looking at first Serve points won percentage, return games won%, and overall return rating. At the top 100 returners there’s like maybe three who have one handers. By default, you are at huge Disadvantage on return if if you have a two-hander.

 

[Aabye5]

@Aabye5

I am not looking at Tsitispas— I am looking at the entirety of the top 100 and looking at first Serve points won percentage, return games won%, and overall return rating. At the top 100 returners there’s like maybe three who have one handers. By default, you are at huge Disadvantage on return if if you have a two-hander.

But there are 4 in the top 15 of the ATP "serve leaders" category, and even Mpetshi-Perricard and Eubanks both make it in the top 100 "return leaders". Eubanks isn't even in the top 100 in the rankings.

Then rewind to 2014 - 2015, you have nine in the top 30 "return leaders". Notice how many of them were clay court players -- Fognini, Garcia-Lopez, Cuevas, Robredo.

What I'm trying to point out is that there just aren't that many one-handed players to begin with. And then on top of that, they tend to be big servers and not great returners. Feli Lopez is not going to care as much about the return as Fognini or Cuevas.

And Tsitsipas and Shapovalov are not just failing to get returns in on the backhand.

My point is that the pipeline is small to begin with. Then on top of that, the successful one-handers that we've seen reach the top 100 in the past 5 - 7 years just don't seem to be return focused.

 

[Arak]

I also think Ruud. His backhand technique is a bit strange, he looks kinda cramped when he hits it. I honestly wonder if it’s a body type thing.

His body type is quite similar to Federer I think. Slightly more stocky but similar proportions.