Any poster over 55 take a testosterone cycle?

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    Rec 3.5 glory?
     
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    hehe, i've been talking about this with my martial arts buddies since we're approaching 50
     
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    It's a real thing lol. A friend works in the pharmaceutical industry. He is 52. He did it. He said you do it once and that's it. Done.

    I'm researching it.
     
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    please share research!
    can we do a group buy? lol - i could probably get 2-3 other folks.
     
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    What's this about?

    So basically guys over 50 are doing a steroid cycle. What is the goal? Are they lifting heavy during the steroid cycle?

    Shouldn't this be in health and fitness?
     
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    If ttps can use this place as his personal diary this post fits fine. Its enhancing tennis performance.

    I am not sure of the exact compounds. Its testosterone injections of some nature on a short basis and specific frequency. It's like 1 week or shorter. I can't remember what my friend told me. It supposedly permanently resets your testosterone levels back higher than they are now at age 50 plus. Brings the natural levels more towards your youth. It supposed to give you more lean muscle mass and overall physical vitality. It's a one time deal. Supposed to work wonders. I'm still researching it.
     
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    I'm not sure it is safe. Although it is safe for adult males that test extremely low for levels. As the doctors prescribe this similar treatment. So who knows.

    Might be the jump needed for rec tennis glory.
     
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    I would be very cautious about this sort of thing. You are messing around with your body's endocrine system, which is extremely sensitive to minute changes. One potential problem in taking testosterone supplements if you have a normal system is that your body has a feedback loop that will then cut back on production of natural T.

    There is an extremely small window for dosage. Too high and you risk all sorts of thing from hair loss to acne to heart attacks. Personality changes are also a problem. I know a guy in his 50's who started with T supplementation. He got into a road rage confrontation that could have had serious consequences. He also started chasing massage parlor hookers. Funny, except when his wife filed divorce papers.

    Taking HGH is also problematic. It's the fountain of youth, right? Well, what if you have or develop a tumor. Do you want to be turbocharging that with HGH?

    Anabolic steroids work. The buffed out older guys you see in internet ads are on them big time. Same deal with underwear models with the shrink-wrapped look. They are on one of the few oral anabolic steroids, anavar. Anavar has serious side effects and you have to have constant liver monitoring while you're on it. Or you could just buy some in mexico and take your chances.
     
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    boo. you must be fun at parties :p
     
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    This is true it’s a little risky doing testosterone, it gives great results but there are risks. Such as prostate enlargement which already happens to most men over 50 and heart problems and on and on. I’ve heard HGH is not as bad but still there are risks.
     
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    That reminds me of a slightly different issue. NFL players, among others, claim smoking weed helps with joint inflammation. By "joint", let me be clear I am talking about your knees, etc.
     
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    Would you feel cheated if you lost a USTA tournament to a guy who was clearly on steroids, HGH, T supplementation, etc? Steroids do not just help with building giant muscles. They help you recover, you know like you play a four hour five set match at Wimbledon and are magically able to come back the next day and do the same thing. It's lucky their use is banned on the ATP Tour. Of course, they are banned in cycling too.
     
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    Ah ha... I knew it. You are all scampering around the court. I knew it. And you lift. Fess up. Lol.
     
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    Yeah. But I want to win my club tournament. Joke...
     
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    There seems to be more and more old guys taking HGH and other stuff.

    Personally I wouldn't feel cheated if I lost to a guy on PEDS in a tournament. I think they are free to take whatever they want as long as they don't harm other people.
     
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    What a buzz kill. I was all ready to form a 4.5 over 50 roided up usta national championship team.
     
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    lol, i'd only feel cheated if my opponent didn't share the howto information :p
     
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    Once I get old, I will 100% be visiting an "anti-aging" doctor. Women do all sorts of things to their bodies, but we're just expected to rot away? No thanks, Jeff.
     
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    Ok ok... this is positive feedback. Thank.
     
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    I don't need no stinking T, HGH, Anavar, etc.

    I just take one of these and I'm good to go for a year.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Smoking weed is okay as long as it’s for medicinal purposes. Lol
     
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    No way rog all natural. But I won’t lie I have been tempted to at least give HGH a try.
     
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    i think that would make my strokes very stiff.
     
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    Joe Rogan does this at 50 and he's well. . . an absolute monster.

    Are there any proven natural methods to slow reduced testosterone levels with aging? I hear diet and exercise but are there specifics?
     
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    Holy crap. That's the dose suresh needs
     
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    Lifting weights.
     
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    If you don’t take steroids, testosterone, and HGH to dominate USTA 3.5 league then you are just weak and you don’t want it bad enough. I require (not recommend, but require) all three for membership on my 3.5 USTA dynasty team. We draw blood levels before each match and if you don’t have the appropriate levels, you don’t play. If you want to win state, you do what needs to be done.
     
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    Why do you need testosterone? Are you losing your manliness?
     
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    No testosterone needed here but if any one has little blue pills I have a friend that's interested.
     
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    This thread made me think of this:


    A South Park classic.
     
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    Sureshs, how have you been feeling since you stopped cycling testosterone?
     
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    I sent a doc a picture of you and he said if I ever looked like that guy in the pic I should consider some hormone therapy.
     
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    Lmao never seen that
     
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    For anyone interested in getting stronger and living longer, I'd recommend this natural training...

     
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    love rippetoe
     
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    The only book one will ever need for weight/strength training. It's a classic whether you want to lift to get big or just to stay in shape.
     
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    Be careful. I have heard that taking testosterone results in permanent shrinkage.
     
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    Sorry to hear you have that issue. Did the doc say if you can be cured?
     
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    E-Trade? Get me 1,000 shares of PFE.
     
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    Because testosterone naturally declines with age and makes you feel like a shadow of your former self. This is well documented and the only reason I need. You can hold onto some stubborn outdated ego trip or you can have more energy, more muscle, higher sex drive, etc.
     
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    Seems like something you would have to continually take. The more you supplement your body, the less it feels the need to produce, so you start out worse than when you started.


    "Watermelon may be a natural Viagra, says a researcher. That's because the popular summer fruit is richer than experts believed in an amino acid called citrulline, which relaxes and dilates blood vessels much like Viagra and other drugs meant to treat erectile dysfunction (ED)."

    https://www.webmd.com/erectile-dysfunction/news/20080701/watermelon-a-natural-viagra#1
     
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    Doesn't matter if a doctor proscribes it or not - if you do cycles you generate more female hormones and disrupt your endocrine system when you flood it with outside T. Studies show that old guys can have decent T levels - provided they are healthy. So there is no reason to rush out and do this stuff..

    The FIRST side effect listed for T is enlarged breasts. LMAO.

    So what you need is full raft of drugs like T, armidex, and HCG.. Then you need to monitor this stuff to make sure nothing is going wrong. Basically we all have complicated hormonal feedback systems which dispense hormones to keep us working right and you need a doctor to take over and do it. But its like using a hammer and nail instead of tape.. It's very crude compared to what the body can do..

    It can totally work though - and I think a number of pro tennis players use.. But if you still generate decent T yourself I wouldn't bother.
     
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    Damn a thread on steroids and my tennis on LSD thread got deleted

    Reddit has lots of talk about this, it is nowhere near as simple as lots of people make out.
     
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    @rogerroger917 Hey roger roger, has that happened to you already?
     
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    I have not done any hormone therapy. But you have man breasts... so I wouldn't be talking about it lol. Fat guy making fat jokes. It's not good. I know you need a sense of humor to deal with your all you can eat buffet issues but man just stop. It makes other people uncomfortable. Are we suppose to laugh or feel bad?
     
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    Coincidentally, I am looking at the April 2018 issue of Wired magazine and there is a teaser article by the person whose book called T: The Unauthorized Biography is going to be published soon.

    It quotes an endocrinologist looking at the studies and concluding: "rejuvenation fantasies thrive on hope without needing facts."

    Though it seems that it did help with libido - but less than the gain with Viagra and Cialis.

    I suggest you stick with the Viagra/Cialis that you are using now.
     
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    My doctor told me body fat affects libido. Lol. If I were you I would not be talking about that either.
     
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    Friend asked my opinion about T supplementation 3 weeks ago. Had heard him earlier talking to one of the Mtn bike group and said he was taking it and really liked he it helped his Mtn biking performance. Told him in my opinion the significant risks and consequences (Herat attack, prostate and liver cancer etc) far outweigh the benefits and if taken for natural decline with advancing age there is no medical real indication except to augment sex drive and physical performance. Told him getting older is difficult. Advised good nutrition and exercise. As such don’t advise taking T. He hasn’t spoken to me since.
     
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