The PCG 100 is my main racquet right now (still have some longbodies too). I was at the TW Alpharetta store getting some stringing done last week. I held an unstrung 100G and a 107G. The 100G felt very maneuverable. May pick one up since they are on sale. Also interested in the last generations Phantom Pro 100p since it's so cheap. HAve you hit with it?I had 12 PCG 100s and LBs at one time and a pile of POG 90s and 107s, 9 or 10 each. I purchased a 107G before the sale (groan) and really really like it. I too am interested in seeing someone report on the 100G - @JOSHL![]()
Awesome! Keep me posted. Also did you hit with the previous generation Phantom Pro 100p?Got one inbound. Hopefully I can hit with it before the sale is over to see if I want another!
@BHold81 , I had a first gen PP100P and didn't like it. I have no idea if I traded it or gave it away. How many generations of the PP100P have there been? Maybe 2?
I did hit with it a long time ago. I think I really liked it until I tried the 93p and then that was my main stick for some time.Awesome! Keep me posted. Also did you hit with the previous generation Phantom Pro 100p?
I did hit with it a long time ago. I think I really liked it until I tried the 93p and then that was my main stick for some time.
Initial impressions of the 100G weren’t all that great. Took off the stock grip(which by the way is heavier than Wilson leather) and replaced it with Tourna thin. Also replaced the strings. Played some doubles with it this am and I much prefer it now. Didn’t feel as sluggish to me. There’s some slight instability on volleys outside the sweet spot. Hard flat serves are a struggle but slice and kick serves are awesome. Hit some of the best kick serves I’ve ever hit. Kinda makes me want to try the 107G next. I’ll keep playing it to give more thoughts.
Sounds like a must try now. Staying at the baseline making people move side to side is my jam. Thanks!I'm really liking the 107G as doubles frame especially but also as a good singles frame. It plays more defensive in singles than other Phantoms since it has easy depth and spin so you can hang out at the baseline just keeping the opponent deep and running them sideline to sideline. With my other phantoms i feel I need to go on the offence to use the control and precision to get a short ball to finishe. With the 107G I can be far more patient. And I can hit wicked drop shots with it. Never seen a better racket for the Drop shot to topspin lob combo. Just nasty, evil.
But as a doubles frame I find the 107G maneuverable for a big hoop and lots of volley forgiveness so even mishits work out better than they do with smaller frames. It also serves bigger than the other phantoms between the lighter SW and the OS power. So you can play a serve and volley game wth it. And it deflects power well for RoS so if you want to try SABR style returns, you can easily do it.
Good to know. I have three PCG 100LB's and have considered cutting them down. Have you ever cut a PCG down .5"?I tried the 100G LB after I cut it down to 27.5" and tried several different weight setups. It was absolutely god awful. I liked the previous POG 100 LB, but this new version is garbage in my opinion.
Yeah, I have three from 2014. It's just a bit much for me to handle, so maybe I will cut one down. I just never cut them because so many people beg you not to do it because they are so rare. But when I try to sell them no one is ever interested. I used to have one from 2008, and it felt like a noodle. No teeth whatsoever.For those that have played with the LB, which version of the PCG LB did you have
I have one from 2008, and three from the ~2014 runs, and the newer runs feel completely different. Weight is very polarized in the handle/tip, harder on the arm, whereas my 2008 feels like all the weight is in the handle.
I will try again tomorrow but 107G may be the new racquet of choice.
Somehow, I was not happy with the 107G in my next hit. I started having some elbow pain after hitting with it about 30 minutes. After switching to my old Phantom Pro100P, the pain decreased. Perhaps the demo I received was strung with a bit higher tension than I like. It was a multi. I play with a multi at 50 with my current racquet. It is also not the best time to test racquets as my elbow pain flared up recently.
I wanted to try a racquet with slightly more powerful. Dartagnan64, in an old forum post, you mention adding lead tape at 12. Would you suggest me to try that with my racquet? Another thing would be to go decrease tension from 50 to 47-48. The racquet spec lists 50 +-5.
I'm really liking my 107G.
As an aside, I would also be interested in Dartagnan64 experience with lead at 12.
Another thing would be to go decrease tension from 50 to 47-48. The racquet spec lists 50 +-5.
It is interesting that I decided to get one of my former racquets, Prokennex Q5 295, restrung with 18 gauge NRG2 today. I was going to compare the Prokennex and the new Phantom 100P on Monday. The demo Phantom 100P was strung with a different string so it didn't feel as stiff as the 107G. I don't see myself getting the demo racquet restrung but I have them until Wednesday.Maybe go thinner gauge. I'm stringing with 17g and it's plenty plush and great spin.
Does anyone have any experience with the Phantom 100G LB?
That's very strange that the 100p would feel like a rocket launcher compared to the 100lb since the specs seem similar between the two with the 100lb having the extra inch being the main difference. I'm thinking the demo strings may be playing a big part in it.I just took out a demo of this frame, along with the Phantom 100P and, just for the heck of it, the Dunlop FX500. I hit with the 100G LB for about an hour yesterday and then tried the other two very briefly. I have used several 27.5" frames before, but never a 28". It has excellent feel, maybe even a little softer than I wanted. Oddly, although I was worried about the maneuverability I really enjoyed it at the net where the stability and reach worked in my favor. But on the groundies I felt that my ball was traveling unexpectedly low over the net and landing short. Forget the Dunlop; even the Phantom 100P felt like a rocket launcher compared to the 100G LB. I have the feeling my timing and contact point were off; this should not be a super low-powered frame. I do plan to give it at least one more serious try. I generally like classic frames like the Phantoms, and as a height-challenged player I am a candidate to benefit from an XL frame. But this one might be too much for me.
The FX500 deserves the good reviews it has been getting. It feels so light and stiff compared to the Phantoms and that's not my preference in racquets, but it was super-easy to use and the results were good. I did catch one overhead near the tip that sent a nice shock wave down my arm; this thing is really stiff. But the dampening technology keeps it comfortable most of the time. I would recommend that anyone who is considering the Pure Drive or Ultra also check out the FX500.
Returning to the topic of the 100G LB, it must not be very popular. My demo was brand new with the grip still wrapped in plastic. Am I really the first person to request a demo of it?
I have been using the new Phantom 100p for almost 6 months and have to say that the control is phenomenal even with a basic synthetic string. I agree that the strings in the demo were the problem.That's very strange that the 100p would feel like a rocket launcher compared to the 100lb since the specs seem similar between the two with the 100lb having the extra inch being the main difference. I'm thinking the demo strings may be playing a big part in it.
I’m playing around right now with one cut down to 27.5, leather grip, head lynx tour @ 48lbs. Feels pretty awesome tbh, nice flex and great mix of control, power, and spin. Sounds like an ad almost haha.. 2hbh btw, probably wouldn’t recommend it for 1hbh hitters unless you’re Fernando Gonzales.anyone using the prince phantom longbody?
anyone using the prince phantom longbody?
I had really hoped to hit more with my demo this week, but I've only had it out twice. The second time was with a teaching pro that I've worked with for several years. I did my warm-ups with the racquet and it felt consistent and smooth in mini-tennis, but when we moved back to the baseline I just felt like everything was a little off. Contact wasn't quite clean and my shots were weak, and once in a while I would be clearly late or out of position with terrible results. So just to show him my demos, I pulled out the FX 500 and hit a few balls with that. It was like a magic wand in comparison. There was such a contrast in my power and depth that the pro told me that he could see me switching to the FX. I don't happen to love that stiff, light type of frame but there was no question it clicked with my strokes naturally in a way that the Phantom 100G LB doesn't. For the rest of the session I used my own Textreme Tour 100 (310g) and my hitting with that frame was on par with the FX.
I think the bottom line is that the Longbody offers some theoretical benefits, but it's so different than 27" or even 27.5" frames (I also play the Pure Aero Plus 2019 regularly) that it's very hard to adjust to. I can understand why some owners here have cut it down.
I mean the 100G. Not the long body. Sw is 318No.. it's got plenty of power. I eventually had to switch back to my 100X instead. I found that I couldn't sustain the 335 swing weight. My arm was dead tired by the end of the first set.
What's the difference between the Prince Phantom 100G and Prince Phantom 100P (2021) - for a competitive player 4.5/5.0 - Spin Control and Confort (elbow saver) - I would like to switch for one of both frames, thank you
You can see the heaviness of the ball when it hits the court and explodes up.I'm a medium height guy 5'9" with fairly unimpressive arm length so I decided to try out the 100G LB. It's taken me months to comfortably support the weight (335 SW, around 12 ounces static). I video almost all of my matches with Swing Vision and my average's went up 5 mph on my forehand, 10 mph on my 1 handed backhand and 5 mph on serve. It takes a lot more effort to produce heavy spin but the depth control/ease of pace generation has really started to improve my game.
Ignore my terrible volleys, I haven't been able to do anything right at the net since I changed frames. I'm in yellow. My ball shape with a Phantom 100X had a lot more lift/launch angle and I was really struggling to keep it in the court when I went for a winner. With the 100G LB, I can get the depth without needing so much height.
Ok Perfect, so I should prefer the 100P. but I'll test them this week, I called Tad's and they got bothBox Beam and Crossbar on the G give it a bit more firmness in the throat. P is a bit more aerodynamic with more even flex distribution. Both have ATS and CTS systems in play so you get nice feel and reasonable hoop stiffness where the prior Phantoms needed it the most.
The big difference is probably control as the string bed is a bit tighter in the sweetspot of the 100P. Little less likely to launch but maybe a little less spin.
Still think the 107G is the winner of the G group and the 100P is the winner of the P group.
Thank you for posting that, very funny apps, i use it sometimes. Very interesting idea about the extended LG, even if I'm not especially looking for that. I really enjoy the Prince racquets, and love to play sometimes with the 107 POG tour.Here's a video with the 100X. You can see the trajectory difference switching rackets made. Especially the punch/depth of my 1 handed backhand. This is filmed like ~4 months ago. I used to be forehand dominant and today ~75% of my winners come off the backhand wing. The young guy I'm playing could bully my 1 handed backhand with the 100x and with the 100G LB, it really doesn't care how hard he hits it.