Big_Dangerous
Talk Tennis Guru
Lol, pretty much beating a dead horse with the whole Chloroquine/Hydroxychloroquine issue. Not a viable option for treating or preventing Covid-19. End o' story.
Any updates on how the Covid19 players are doing?
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Lol, pretty much beating a dead horse with the whole Chloroquine/Hydroxychloroquine issue. Not a viable option for treating or preventing Covid-19. End o' story.
tennis tom
Legend
Coronavirus-spreader Chris Cuomo got a lecture for breaking quarantine, and he's upset about it
“Rules for thee, but not for me” may as well be the Cuomo family motto. CNN’s Chris Cuomo, who announced on March 31 that he has the coronavirus, broke quarantine on Easter Sunday to take his wife and children to look at an undeveloped property in East Hampton, New York, a full 30-minute drive...
www.washingtonexaminer.com
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
Which symptoms did he have?
megamind
Legend
Didnt grigor have a fever + stronger symptoms
Tennisbg
Professional
Didn't he make the test because of tiredness and fever. He quit a match in Adria Tour because of this.
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
So much for the deluded belief that healthy young athletes get no symptoms or only very mild ones...
boredone3456
G.O.A.T.
I never ONCE had a fever consistent with what they classify as a "Covid Fever" (a temp of higher than 100.3 at the time I was diagnoses). The highest my Temp every got during the entire time I was sick was 99.4. Unless I was popping a fever as I slept and didn't realize it, but I didn't wake up soaked in sweat or anything so its unlikely even then. My Doctor initially refused to have me tested despite the fact I was exposed because at first I only had a minor cough, and I have seasonal allergies. When I developed the razor blade feeling in my throat I called and they tested me then.
boredone3456
G.O.A.T.
I also lost between 5-10lbs in a week because of the all the Gastro-intestinal issues and the fact I was barely eating anything.
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
Thanks for all this info. I wish you and your family the best.
As far as America's response, it's been bad nearly everywhere. Very few countries dealt with this well. I can only imagine how lousy countries like Brazil handled this.
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
Been there, several times. Several years ago I lost 8 kilos in a week. That's about 20 pounds. Still don't know what it was.
Hell isn't the right word. Hell is when Serena wins a slam. This is a whole other level of hell, the pits.
King No1e
G.O.A.T.
Are you Maria Sharapova?
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
I am her brother, Yefffgeniy.Are you Maria Sharapova?
TheGhostOfAgassi
Talk Tennis Guru
Im sorry to hear you had to deal w this horrid virus!
But glad you made it, and see you back in the leagues when tennis starts again
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
Can you tell me how you got infected, if you know?
Raul_SJ
G.O.A.T.
Dmitrov played the semi final match despite feeling ill. Hugged his Opponent Coric. Opponent tested positive the next day.
Then Dmitrov goes on Instagram and profusely apologizes and says he is isolating for 14 days.
Creates a big drama lying on the bed.
But after that, nothing. Dead silence.
No update on status. It would be educational for everyone to know how he is recovering.
Very odd.
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Mark-Touch
Legend
Wow! Several times?
You mean people actually got sick with symptoms similar to Covid before the virus hit?
Is it possible that a few people among the 10 million who have gotten Covid got sick from something similar to what you had?
Raul_SJ
G.O.A.T.
No. That does not fit the scaremongering narrative.
Rafa.the.Magnificent
G.O.A.T.
That’s pretty concerning, that he hasn’t updated at all since then. I hope GrIgor is okay!Dmitrov played the semi final match despite feeling ill. Hugged his Opponent Coric. Opponent tested positive the next day.
Then Dmitrov goes on Instagram and profusely apologizes and says he is isolating for 14 days.
Creates a big drama lying on the bed.
But after that, nothing. Dead silence.
No update on status. It would be educational for everyone to know how he is recovering.
Very odd.
Gary Duane
G.O.A.T.
Have you noticed that you only hear about people getting Covid? If they do not get sick, just positive, it disappears in days. Even if they get sick, if they get better you never hear about it again.
Good news does not sell. The only people pushing good news re this disease are officials who want to get reelected and fear that if people do not get back to work and the economy does not get going again, they will be dumped.
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Gary Duane
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Tshooter
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Groundies unreliable under pressure.
Sudacafan
Bionic Poster
As per latest studies, immunity after a covid infection may only last from a couple of weeks to three months.
Sudacafan
Bionic Poster
If the cases are really asymptomatic, that can’t be possible, no?
Sudacafan
Bionic Poster
I think that the more significant concern in the minds of the candidates competing in the upcoming elections around the world regarding this pandemic is not whether the people may vote or not for them, it’s rather if their supporters will show up to vote or not, regarding the contagion risks involved in the voting activity.
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Too bad it's all Dmitrov's fault, the guilt must be excruciating.
Sudacafan
Bionic Poster
Dmitrov played the semi final match despite feeling ill. Hugged his Opponent Coric. Opponent tested positive the next day.
Then Dmitrov goes on Instagram and profusely apologizes and says he is isolating for 14 days.
Creates a big drama lying on the bed.
But after that, nothing. Dead silence.
No update on status. It would be educational for everyone to know how he is recovering.
Very odd.
Dmtrov. I am joining you in stealing him i’s from his name.
Raul_SJ
G.O.A.T.
New Stanford Study: Risk of Dying from COVID Is 7 Times LESS than Spine Surgery - Regenexx
Dr. Centeno discusses how the risk of dying from COVID is much less than dying from common surgical procedures.
regenexx.com
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Steve0904
Talk Tennis Guru
And who says it isn’t likely to be soon? One minute I’m hearing we’ll never have a vaccine and the next I’m hearing it could be early 2021. No one actually knows as far as anyone can tell.
In any case there has to be some sort of immunity already because if there was none at all everybody who contracted it would die, but that’s far from the truth. The human body is already producing antibodies in most people, just not for very long. And we also have a lot of asymptomatic people that aren’t getting sick at all. Of course they’re the most dangerous spreaders, but all the same they aren’t sick.
As such I find it very hard to believe we won’t find a vaccine relatively soon. Maybe I’m just an optimist though, I don’t know.
Steve0904
Talk Tennis Guru
Yes, but all the same there are vaccines for multiple different types of the flu. I agree on the success rate being pretty poor.
tennis_pro
Bionic Poster
I dont even have to look it up to know that they all are all fine despite having this deadly virus.
PDJ
G.O.A.T.
Glad you're ok.
Nadal_Django
Legend
Update: Djokovic tested negative.
Tennisbg
Professional
serbian site ?
EDIT: Found some new :
Djokovic returns negative coronavirus test - Australian Associated Press
After positive COVID-19 tests on June 23, world No.1 tennis player Novak Djokovic and his wife are now reportedly free of the disease.
www.aap.com.au
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
Matters not. I completely recovered after W19.
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
I guess that's why he's called BabyFed...
jm1980
Talk Tennis Guru
Antibodies may only be detectable in weeks to months. But the human immune system has other ways of fighting off known pathogens. So how long immunity lasts is still up in the air
disgruntledamsel
Professional
Correct me if I’m wrong, but as of today’s date, antobodies have not been confirmed to provide any immunity at all. Recently, it was reported that those who are asymptomatic or experience mild symptoms generate few antibodies to begin with. https://www.foxnews.com/science/asy...have-weaker-immune-response-china-study-finds
Also, some who are asymptomatic do experience lung damage unbeknownst to them. “CT scans performed on 76 of the asymptomatic cases [from the Diamond Princess] revealed that nearly half of them showed some degree of lung damage. These people had not reported any symptoms, were unaware that they had had the disease, and yet still it seemed to have left its physical mark. Whether they will suffer any long-term consequences from this damage it is too early to say.” https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/How-can-‘test-and-trace’-stop-a-virus-spread-by-the-asymptomatic
I find it interesting that people are making an assumption that you are “lucky” if you don’t experience symptoms or very mild symptoms. It’s possible that we discover a year from now that those who suffered severe symptoms and recovered are better off longterm.... remember the children who tested positive and showed no symptoms until 2 months later, then developed rare afflictions? Just because one doesn’t experience any symptoms now doesn’t mean that the virus isn’t quietly biding its time for a later attack. Recovery could be a myth. Only time will tell. Research shows that the virus has the ability to hide in all major organs, which was a revelation months ago because it was initially thought to be a respiratory illness. It’s all hands on deck across the entire globe working on this virus, and the fact that so little is known about it still should be worrying.
Another thing, as if it wasn’t obvious in January, when the virus was spreading exponentially daily through China, airborne transmission is the dominant form of transmission. That’s an inconvenient truth because we still don’t have N95 masks available to the public and likely won’t anytime soon. This research article lays it out: “Our work suggests that the failure in containing the propagation of COVID-19 pandemic worldwide is largely attributed to the unrecognized importance of airborne virus transmission. . . .The inadequate knowledge on virus transmission has inevitably hindered development of effective mitigation policies and resulted in unstoppable propagation of the COVID-19 pandemic . . . the importance of airborne transmission has not been considered in establishment of mitigation measures by government authorities. Specifically, while the WHO and the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) have emphasized the prevention of contact transmission, both WHO and CDC have largely ignored the importance of the airborne transmission route. The current mitigation measures, such as social distancing, quarantine, and isolation implemented in the United States, are insufficient by themselves in protecting the public. (Emphasis added)”. https://www.pnas.org/content/117/26/14857
Also, some who are asymptomatic do experience lung damage unbeknownst to them. “CT scans performed on 76 of the asymptomatic cases [from the Diamond Princess] revealed that nearly half of them showed some degree of lung damage. These people had not reported any symptoms, were unaware that they had had the disease, and yet still it seemed to have left its physical mark. Whether they will suffer any long-term consequences from this damage it is too early to say.” https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/How-can-‘test-and-trace’-stop-a-virus-spread-by-the-asymptomatic
I find it interesting that people are making an assumption that you are “lucky” if you don’t experience symptoms or very mild symptoms. It’s possible that we discover a year from now that those who suffered severe symptoms and recovered are better off longterm.... remember the children who tested positive and showed no symptoms until 2 months later, then developed rare afflictions? Just because one doesn’t experience any symptoms now doesn’t mean that the virus isn’t quietly biding its time for a later attack. Recovery could be a myth. Only time will tell. Research shows that the virus has the ability to hide in all major organs, which was a revelation months ago because it was initially thought to be a respiratory illness. It’s all hands on deck across the entire globe working on this virus, and the fact that so little is known about it still should be worrying.
Another thing, as if it wasn’t obvious in January, when the virus was spreading exponentially daily through China, airborne transmission is the dominant form of transmission. That’s an inconvenient truth because we still don’t have N95 masks available to the public and likely won’t anytime soon. This research article lays it out: “Our work suggests that the failure in containing the propagation of COVID-19 pandemic worldwide is largely attributed to the unrecognized importance of airborne virus transmission. . . .The inadequate knowledge on virus transmission has inevitably hindered development of effective mitigation policies and resulted in unstoppable propagation of the COVID-19 pandemic . . . the importance of airborne transmission has not been considered in establishment of mitigation measures by government authorities. Specifically, while the WHO and the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) have emphasized the prevention of contact transmission, both WHO and CDC have largely ignored the importance of the airborne transmission route. The current mitigation measures, such as social distancing, quarantine, and isolation implemented in the United States, are insufficient by themselves in protecting the public. (Emphasis added)”. https://www.pnas.org/content/117/26/14857
If Covid immunity is not possible, then why on earth all these countries, agencies, private companies are investing billions in the research and development of the Covid vaccine in the first place.
Immunity made by antibodies responding to a live virus is different from immunity produced from a vaccine whether it’s a deactivated virus or some other method. The response is totally different. If you are really curious you can totally google it and educate yourself. It’s out there
Raul_SJ
G.O.A.T.
We have been told to practice 6 feet social distancing as the primary mode of transmission
is respiratory droplets from a coughing person.
Stay six feet away and it is practically impossible to catch this virus. Even more so if everyone is masking. That makes sense to me.
BlueB
Legend
Now I've heard it all...
Whole point of vaccines is to trick the body into thinking it's infected, to produce the right antibodies.
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Raul_SJ
G.O.A.T.
There is no natural immunity from being infected or from vaccination. Can get infected multiple times!
... But Dr Fauci will still need you to take this vaccine.
disgruntledamsel
Professional
If you are in an enclosed room for an extended period of time, staying 6 feet away may not be sufficient. https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/st...ay-be-factor-in-covid-19-spread-in-the-south/
On the other hand, the issue is not decided. https://www.businessinsider.com/turning-off-ac-could-limit-chance-of-infection-experts-say-2020-4
I’d rather stay on the safe side. I remember when the authorities were insistent that you can’t give it to your pet..... until you could. Better safe than sorry. Some of this stuff is simply common sense, but many people want to believe whatever best fits their lifestyle or what they want to do - like socialize at a bar... Some have even decided to have COVID parties and be done with it... https://time.com/5862571/alabama-coronavirus-parties/. People are going to do what they think is best for them, but they don’t get to say they didn’t know later... e.g. like this guy who thought you couldn’t spread it if you didn’t have symptoms.... scary. “The friend was aware of his [positive] diagnosis when he went to the barbecue, but did not think he could infect anyone because he had no symptoms.” https://people.com/health/calif-man...upidity-before-dying-coronavirus-wear-a-mask/
Raul_SJ
G.O.A.T.
It still does not prove that it was the asymptomatic person that spread it at the party.
We were told by Doctors that spread from asymptomatic people was extremely rare. That would make sense as the person would not be coughing; coughing respiratory droplets are the primary mode of transmission.
Spread of the coronavirus by asymptomatic patients is “very rare,” the World Health Organization said Monday, calling into question research that suggested asymptomatic cases could be spreading the disease on a large scale.
“From the data we have, it still seems to be rare that an asymptomatic person actually transmits onward to a secondary individual,” said Dr. Maria Van Kerkhove, who leads the WHO’s diseases and zoonosis unit, during a press briefing in Geneva, where WHO is headquartered.
“We have a number of reports from countries who are doing very detailed contact tracing,” Van Kerkhove continued. “They’re following asymptomatic cases. They’re following contacts. And they’re not finding secondary transmission onward. It’s very rare.”
Van Kerkhove said that while additional research and data is necessary to determine how much the coronavirus can spread through people with no symptoms, governments should focus on those who are experiencing symptoms, making sure they isolate and tracing their contacts with other people.
Cashman
Hall of Fame
There has been some preliminary research that indicate lung function can be damaged even in mild cases. Not enough for a normal person to notice, but enough to impact scuba divers. It would presumably be applicable to other high performance athletes.
I don’t know how robust that research is, but if I was an ATP player I definitely would want to avoid it until more is known.
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I've decided to take all vowels out of his name, to set an example for the rest of the players: Grgr Dmtrv. This is what happens.
