Anyone else find that Volkl Cyclone Tour is actually not that comfortable of a poly?

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It's not horrible, but given how often it's cited as one of the most comfortable polys out there, I was a bit surprised that I don't find it to be that comfy. Of the last 5 or so polys I've most recently tried (granted they've mostly all been softer round polys), it's by far the least comfortable of the bunch. This includes Pro Supex Micro Ace, WC Scorpion 17L, Tourna Big Hitter Blue 16, Solinco Outlast 17, WC Ultra Cable, Topspin Cyber Flash 17. Am I alone on this?
 
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You are most likely feeling the mains and the crosses locking up. Cyclone Tour is shaped AND twisted, so the mains don't slide over the crosses readily like the round polys and the untwisted shaped poly that is incredibly slick (WC Ultra Cable).
 
comfort also cones from tension, so i can not really help here. used volkl tour a few time, just was not for me.
I string for me in the low to forties so i have no issues seeking comfort.
Also with a over 12 oz angell(3) tc 97 custom (foam core) also adding my comfort ride.
I hope you find the comfort strings that you like....best of luck man...
 
CopolyX said:
comfort also cones from tension, so i can not really help here. used volkl tour a few time, just was not for me.
I string for me in the low to forties so i have no issues seeking comfort.
Also with a over 12 oz angell(3) tc 97 custom (foam core) also adding my comfort ride.
I hope you find the comfort strings that you like....best of luck man...
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Yeah, I'm a low tension guy too, I strung it up at 45. Like I said, it's not bad. I'm just a bit surprised it doesn't feel better, and was wondering if I was the only one.
 
nope, you are not alone here. my go to's are n gut and a nice smooth good med - to soft copoly. lots of pretty good choices out there. but you are right for us, cyclone tour is off the list..
 
CopolyX said:
nope, you are not alone here. my go to's are n gut and a nice smooth good med - to soft copoly. lots of pretty good choices out there. but you are right for us, cyclone tour is off the list..
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Yeah, guess I'm a round poly kind of guy in my current stick. Definitely wouldn't mind having a hit with a 16x19 TC97. Some have said it is a bit like my Duel G 310 but more solid and less maneuverable. I wish the swingweights were published. But maybe I'll grab one if I see a deal come up in the classifieds.
 
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vcore 3 d 310 is a great stick.
16 x 2O is pretty dense, i believe the swing w is 315 / 7 pts hl . / like 11.5 oz
angells (3) tc 18 x20 customs are close by..
12.2 oz / 7 pts hl / swing weight 327 (rdc)
19mm / quality & foam core is very nice...
feels a lot lighter /whippy than the specs
I think as long as you find one with a 7 pts hl or higher you might be surprised on its maneuverability...
(natural in your static weight zone)

good luck on the string quest...
 
I didn't find it uncomfortable but it felt pingy and somewhat metallic (not as harshness but as sound/feel).

There are much more comfortable polys out there. Off the top of my head, the Black Magic (Genesis) and the Big Ace (Pro Supex) are the most comfortable I've tried. Topspin Cyber Blue as well. Hmmmm... they're all round strings; may also play a role
 
I use 1.30 Volkl Cyclone Tour (VCT) for more 4.0/4.5 men than any other poly (and I have a dozen different poly reels). So for me and my clients, it is a proven winner. Thankfully we have lots of choices in strings and frames.

The 4.0C who beat a 5.0C (playing under his 4.5 ESR from Alabama although he was bumped to 5.0 in Dec 2016) in the 40+ 4.5 Southern Sectionals in July 2017 uses 1.30 VCT in his Pure Control Tour frames. I use VCT in a Prince Textreme Warrior 100, along with multiple 4.0 guys in Wilson Steam 99S, Babolat Aeropro Drives and Pure Drives. I don't use a Pure Drive because they kill my elbow, but I can use VCT comfortably in a Warrior 100. We are all different in what feels comfortable and what doesn't.
 
loosegroove said:
It's not horrible, but given how often it's cited as one of the most comfortable polys out there, I was a bit surprised that I don't find it to be that comfy. Of the last 5 or so polys I've most recently tried (granted they've mostly all been softer round polys), it's by far the least comfortable of the bunch. This includes Pro Supex Micro Ace, WC Scorpion 17L, Tourna Big Hitter Blue 16, Solinco Outlast 17, WC Ultra Cable, Topspin Cyber Flash 17. Am I alone on this?
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I find Volkl Cyclone and Cyclone Tour plays better after 2-3 of hitting. The strings lose their firmness and settle in. I use to play with cyclone 17g at 45 lbs. and it still felt harsh for the first couple of hours. After a bit, it loosens up, settles in, and looses a little tension also. If you want a comfortable "poly-like" feel, look into Babolat Origin. It's a firm multi/softer poly combo. I like it in the mid 40s and tension holds great! Cyclone/Cyclone Tour are good if your arm can take it, but there are better options out there. ISO Cream, Tourna Big Hitter, Prince XC are just a couple of comfortable examples.
 
Rabbit said:
I find polyester and comfort to be an oxymoron.
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True, but if you went to a restaurant and ordered 4 jumbo shrimp and received 4 cocktail shrimp, you'd probably be disappointed. Meaning everything is relative and on a sliding scale, hence I qualified "comfortable (for) a poly".
 
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Say Chi Sin Lo said:
That's like someone buying a SUV and complains about it rolling over on track days.
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In the context of my post, it's more like someone test driving an SUV for use as a daily driver that's been touted as more car-like, but finding it's a bit of a rough ride.

Man you guys like to get overdramatic ;)
 
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The USTA 4.0C player above uses 16g Volkl Cyclone Tour (VCT) in his Babolat Pure Control Tour frames. I string his frames and for his wife and kids. I completely understand it is the archer not the arrow, but this archer swears by VCT.

And here is the proof he beat a 5.0C in singles with Cyclone Tour in his frame. He can use any poly he wants, but he uses Volkl Cyclone Tour 16g

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@loosegrove,

Cohen has elbow issues and uses a 16x20 Pure Control Tour at 50 lbs. He gave his Pure Drives to his wife since he can't hit with them without getting TE.

If you look at his record closely, you will see a player who did exceptionally well at 4.5 in 2017.

8-0 in 4.0 singles

12-2 as a 4.5 men's with the only losses coming in 10 PT TB.

FWIW, he avenged one of those two 4.5 losses a few weeks later 2&4.
 
loosegroove said:
True, but if you went to a restaurant and ordered 4 jumbo shrimp and received 4 cocktail shrimp, you'd probably be disappointed. Meaning everything is relative and on a sliding scale, hence I qualified "comfortable (for) a poly".
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Touche!

Cain Mashego? Cain Mashego? He owes me money!
 
I have a very sensitive arm, but I can confirm Vokyl Cyclone Tour 18g played much stiffer than I expected. I was looking for a poly on the softer end. The string stiffness tool rates it at 149 which should mean it is one of least harsh poly's out there. But I did not find this to be the case. I played a 90 minute match with a full bed strung at 48 lbs and couldn't play tennis for a few days.
 
HeadClassic said:
I have a very sensitive arm, but I can confirm Vokyl Cyclone Tour 18g played much stiffer than I expected. I was looking for a poly on the softer end. The string stiffness tool rates it at 149 which should mean it is one of least harsh poly's out there. But I did not find this to be the case. I played a 90 minute match with a full bed strung at 48 lbs and couldn't play tennis for a few days.
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what frame did you use and was it indoor/outdoor, what kind of temperature did u play in? Using ANY type of poly in sub 60 degree weather unless strung really low is like a death sentence for your arm. VCT is on the softer end of the spectrum of polys but for all we know, it could still feel like rubber bullets if your arm is in shambles for previous overuse or incorrect technique. I find that playing indoors with poly is much easier on the arm than outdoors. I find that I need to swing harder to generate pace/depth outdoors compared to indoors. If your arm can’t handle VCT, then you probably shouldnt be using poly at all or at least not in the mains. Round poly crosses work well to facilitate snapback in mains while not feeling overly stiff. Natural gut/multi mains is probably the way to go for best comfort...you jus can’t put a price on a broken arm.


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@loosegroove
im not sure about the comfort level on the few options you listed below, ive tried a few and found no comfort in them and/or their reputation seems to suggest otherwise
it could be just me, feel is a "personal-thang", after all

Pro Supex Micro Ace, (itried 18 version, could feel TE coming on after first hit, I cut it out right away, never looked back)
WC Scorpion 17L, (agree, I liked this one, powerfull early generation poly)
Tourna Big Hitter Blue 16, (never tried, but I think its like topspin-cyberblue, which I never though of as soft, even though reports say otherwise)
Solinco Outlast 17, (this ones easy, never tried,, but SOLINCO does not make soft polys, never!!, not a fan)
WC Ultra Cable, (4sided poly, most of these shaped polys tend to be on the crisper side, I curious about this one, will try soon)
Topspin Cyber Flash 17 (like this one and 1 agree, a buttery muted unique soft feel,, one of my early generation favorites)

as for the Volkl Cyclone Tour, its a early generation poly with medium power, its shaped and twisted, thusly making it a bit more crisp than a round poly of similar type/gauge
 
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I find polyester and comfort to be an oxymoron.
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I think Cyclone Tour at low tension feels way softer than NatGut at 50+
NatGut feels stiff as a board, while low tension poly feels like a nice trampoline effect with massive spin.
 
E46luver said:
I think Cyclone Tour at low tension feels way softer than NatGut at 50+
NatGut feels stiff as a board, while low tension poly feels like a nice trampoline effect with massive spin.
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no no no, just repeating a false statement on gut being stiff over and over does not make it true.

you obviously had a bad string job (perhaps too much prestreatch) but NO WAY gut is stiff, something went wrong.
 
My opinion is as valid as yours
Many people agreed with me.
Sorry to break your brainwashing.
Poly blows away Gut in every possible metric
Outdated 19th century technology.
 
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