Anyone know what racquet McEnroe is using here?

BreakPoint

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Almost looks similar to a PS 85 but no PWS but appears to have a 16x18 string pattern. Also appears he used it in a Wimbledon match.
 
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big ted

Legend
i think i remember hearing him experimenting with either a snauwaert or nike prototype at the time, not sure which it is though. i think him and his brother were
both using it when they played each other in the chicago finals around that time too.
 

BreakPoint

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Could it be a Donnay Pro Cynetic 1? Almost same mold as the PS 85 but without the PWS. However, it has a 16x19 string pattern and 8 mains through the throat bridge. But maybe I counted the string pattern wrong in the racquet in McEnroe's hands?

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Correct. Was a project by then coach/friend Carlos Goffi. I recall speaking to him about the frame in Miami around 1991. Patrick was using as well. Was a Prostaff knock off but never took off. Not sure what company made it for him...
 

niktub

Professional
Could it be a Donnay Pro Cynetic 1? Almost same mold as the PS 85 but without the PWS. However, it has a 16x19 string pattern and 8 mains through the throat bridge. But maybe I counted the string pattern wrong in the racquet in McEnroe's hands?

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It looks different in Mac's hands imho.
 

dr325i

G.O.A.T.
I want those Air Trainer 1s.
Really. I always missed the Lendl Adidas shoes. Finally got them last year and although I still love the way they look, the comfort is terrible compared to the modern shoe. I would not be able to play more than 10 minutes in those. I remember when I used to play for hours in those in the 80s.
 

Harry_Wild

G.O.A.T.
Really. I always missed the Lendl Adidas shoes. Finally got them last year and although I still love the way they look, the comfort is terrible compared to the modern shoe. I would not be able to play more than 10 minutes in those. I remember when I used to play for hours in those in the 80s.

Maybe your feet have changed between the two time frames or you got a defective pair or the pair was mismatch or size was printed wrong or the worker had a bad day or was new and skip a part!
 

BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
Really. I always missed the Lendl Adidas shoes. Finally got them last year and although I still love the way they look, the comfort is terrible compared to the modern shoe. I would not be able to play more than 10 minutes in those. I remember when I used to play for hours in those in the 80s.
Yup, same here. Those Adidas Lendl shoes with the multi-blue stripes and the really soft leather were SO comfortable. But probably not much support compared to modern tennis shoes.
 

BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
Correct. Was a project by then coach/friend Carlos Goffi. I recall speaking to him about the frame in Miami around 1991. Patrick was using as well. Was a Prostaff knock off but never took off. Not sure what company made it for him...
I remember it had something to do with Carlos Goffi and there was talk Nike was going to market the racquets but it never came to be, And yes Patrick used it to for a short time before playing with his Fischer Vacuum Pro mid
Thanks. Interesting.

Too bad it was never marketed. :(
 

robbo1970

Hall of Fame
Really. I always missed the Lendl Adidas shoes. Finally got them last year and although I still love the way they look, the comfort is terrible compared to the modern shoe. I would not be able to play more than 10 minutes in those. I remember when I used to play for hours in those in the 80s.

Me too. Some of the reissues don't seem as comfortable as the originals. I remember the Laver's and Nastase's having quite a soft, spongier feeling sole unit, but the latest ones are rock hard in comparison. Plus, my legs and feet are 30 years older lol. As much as I try to deny it, I'm not the fit 15 year old I was back then.
 

Harry_Wild

G.O.A.T.
McEnroe started out his with the Wilson Prostaff wood racquet. And moved on to the Dunlop Maxply and then the 200G composite racquet until he retired from the tour! He did have the McEnroe Autograph Dunlop that he play with on the Champion's tour for several years and then a blacked out racquet! Have not seem him play this year!
 

Harry_Wild

G.O.A.T.
Wonder if/when Nike will actually get into the racquet biz. Just a matter of time...
Nike was in the racquet business before! I don't recall which decade but it 80s or 90s era! They did not get top tour player endorsement but just try to see the based on the Nike brand name!
 

Seth

Legend
Really. I always missed the Lendl Adidas shoes. Finally got them last year and although I still love the way they look, the comfort is terrible compared to the modern shoe. I would not be able to play more than 10 minutes in those. I remember when I used to play for hours in those in the 80s.

That sucks. FWIW I've played some 4.5 singles and doubles in Nike Air Tech Challenge IIs. Really great shoe even with the 1990 technology.

Nike did a great job with that reissue.
 

robbo1970

Hall of Fame
McEnroe started out his with the Wilson Prostaff wood racquet. And moved on to the Dunlop Maxply and then the 200G composite racquet until he retired from the tour! He did have the McEnroe Autograph Dunlop that he play with on the Champion's tour for several years and then a blacked out racquet! Have not seem him play this year!

He tried various other racquets before leaving the main tour. I'm sure there was a Prince and Head in there, possibly a Volkl too.

On the champions/senior tour he used the Dunlop with the retro PJ, then the Biomimetic Max200G before recently switching to a Head Radical.
 

Grafil Injection

Hall of Fame
Was anymore found out about the racket in the OP? The Wimbledon annual shows Mac used it throughout the 1991 tournament. It had deep and sharp-edged grommet channel like a PS85. I wonder if it was a Wilson prototype that went on to become Graf's stick (adding PWS), since I guess it would have been similar weight and flex to the 200G. Mac reverted to the Dunlop for Wimbledon 1992.
 

PBODY99

Legend

Snauwaert produce in1991 a line of John McEnroe signature frames. The company went bankrupt in 1992 , and the frames wound up in the discount chain Value City. There was a black frame and a gray model.​

iu


@Grafil Injection

SNAUWAERT ELLIPSE​

 

Grafil Injection

Hall of Fame

Snauwaert produce in1991 a line of John McEnroe signature frames. The company went bankrupt in 1992 , and the frames wound up in the discount chain Value City. There was a black frame and a gray model.​

iu


@Grafil Injection

SNAUWAERT ELLIPSE​


Can't have been that grey one, the shoulders and throat are flat rather than fluted. Have you got a picture of the Black Snauwaert?

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vsbabolat

G.O.A.T.
I remember it had something to do with Carlos Goffi and there was talk Nike was going to market the racquets but it never came to be, And yes Patrick used it to for a short time before playing with his Fischer Vacuum Pro mid

Was anymore found out about the racket in the OP? The Wimbledon annual shows Mac used it throughout the 1991 tournament. It had deep and sharp-edged grommet channel like a PS85. I wonder if it was a Wilson prototype that went on to become Graf's stick (adding PWS), since I guess it would have been similar weight and flex to the 200G. Mac reverted to the Dunlop for Wimbledon 1992.
See my post.
 

vsbabolat

G.O.A.T.
Thanks, yes I read your post before bumping. I was asking for further information, like who built it for Mr Goffi. Were you saying that Snauwaert built it or did he have his own fab-shop? It doesn't look much like any other Snauwaert models.
Snauwaert had nothing to do with it. Snauwaert never made him a racquet he used. I’m sure it was manufactured in Taiwan by Kunnan Lo. And like I said at the time there was talk of Nike marketing the frame. But none of that came to be and John continued to experiment with different frames but he’d always go back to his faithful Max200G
 
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Break To Win

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vsbabolat

G.O.A.T.
I’ve never seen Evonne use a Snauwaert. John never used a real Snauwaert in a match. The closest was a Snauwaert stencil on his Max200G
 

Ronaldo

Bionic Poster

Snauwaert produce in1991 a line of John McEnroe signature frames. The company went bankrupt in 1992 , and the frames wound up in the discount chain Value City. There was a black frame and a gray model.​

iu


@Grafil Injection

SNAUWAERT ELLIPSE​

Value City had some of the most exotic racquets in that sale. Still own a Donnay Ghost from that sale 30+ yrs ago. Saw that racquet one of the Woodys used with 13 gauge string.
 
I’ve never seen Evonne use a Snauwaert. John never used a real Snauwaert in a match. The closest was a Snauwaert stencil on his Max200G
Outside of the Mac wearing the checkerboard Nike kit this was his second best . White zinc and thick head band and all . The air trainers just stone cold WORK for every color you throw at it with your tennis apparel . Nike bring back the checkerboard stuff . Pleeeee
 

vsbabolat

G.O.A.T.
Outside of the Mac wearing the checkerboard Nike kit this was his second best . White zinc and thick head band and all . The air trainers just stone cold WORK for every color you throw at it with your tennis apparel . Nike bring back the checkerboard stuff . Pleeeee
Nike is so stupid. They did a reissue of the OG Mac Attack and then they do a Vapor 11 Mac Attack but no matching checkerboard clothing line to go with it. Nike is just bizarre now and the tennis clothing designs are embarrassing.
 

Grafil Injection

Hall of Fame
Value City had some of the most exotic racquets in that sale. Still own a Donnay Ghost from that sale 30+ yrs ago. Saw that racquet one of the Woodys used with 13 gauge string.
Donnay Ghost! That takes me back. The wide-body designers went berserk for a few years! How was that to hit?
 

Bill Lobsalot

Hall of Fame
Nike is so stupid. They did a reissue of the OG Mac Attack and then they do a Vapor 11 Mac Attack but no matching checkerboard clothing line to go with it. Nike is just bizarre now and the tennis clothing designs are embarrassing.
Tennis players are not the ones buying the Mac Attack. Mostly just sneakerheads. Nike's clothes are awful quality and style.
 
Nike is so stupid. They did a reissue of the OG Mac Attack and then they do a Vapor 11 Mac Attack but no matching checkerboard clothing line to go with it. Nike is just bizarre now and the tennis clothing designs are embarrassing.
Could not agree more my brother
 

Ronaldo

Bionic Poster
I purchased rossignol blue f 200’s from value city 1992 3 of them for 45 $
Recall a 4.5 player had stopped playing for 15-20 yrs was looking for racquets. Told him about Value City racquets. He bought a pr. of Rossignols. Decimated our group. I was a 3.5 playing with three 4.5-5.0 players. Still curious what selection Shottensteins in Columbus, Ohio would have.

Still have a couple of Rossignols including the f 200 from that sale.
 

Ronaldo

Bionic Poster
Donnay Ghost! That takes me back. The wide-body designers went berserk for a few years! How was that to hit?
Light IMHO, great pop. Open string pattern which led to too much breakage. Switched to a Wilson Profile 3.0 95 w/18x20 pattern. IMHO great racquet but too many re-strings led to eventual pull-throughs. Still own these racquets from the 80s.
Btw, saw the Snauwaert Hi-Ten 30 racquets with a 12×13 string pattern at Value City. Later discovered what I missed.
 
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