Anyone notice that in all 8 Murray GS finals losses..

So Murray is 0-4 in 4-setters in slam finales.

Which isn't that strange considering his awful 3-8 finales score. One of the worst ever slam finale score among players with more than 5 finales...

Fred Stolle 2-6
Roche 1-5

Only they are about as bad.

There are only several players who've had many slam finales yet have a negative score. More examples:

Lendl 8-11
Borotra 4-6.

Of course, we must mention Roddick as well 1-4, but he wasn't nearly as gifted as Murray.
 
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Defensive tennis, you have to force the issue when you're in a slam final. It's not rocket science.

Murray never fully developed to his potential IMO. Of course, he was a hard worker but that's a different thing.
 
lud said:
He never even forced 5th set.

2008 USO - 2-6,5-7,2-6
2010 AO - 3-6,4-6,6-7
2011 AO - 4-6,2-6,3-6
2012 WIM - 6-4,5-7,3-6,4-6
2013 AO -7-6,6-7,3-6,2-6
2015 AO - 6-7,7-6,3-6,0-6
2016 AO - 1-6,5-7,6-7
2016 RG - 6-3,1-6,2-6,4-6
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He won the only 5th set Slam final he played so maybe his opponents should count themselves lucky. :cool:
 
Murray's years in Spain were a double edged sword: he learned to grind, but he forgot to learn (or unlearned) how to be aggressive.

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Considering in the midst of all the finals you listed he actually won a few I wouldn't say that this means much.

I did notice he was the first (and so far only) man in the history of tennis to play 3 major finals without winning a set, but he admirably grew out of that too.
 
Yeah it's not that surprising really, especially given his opponents. In fact the same thing nearly happened to Djokovic except USO 2012 which was again just a typical dramatic Murray match. I'm guessing the majority of most players slam final losses are not 5 setters. Murray should have a better slam final conversion rate for sure though.
 
Well in a way for the fans of a player it's easier to digest a 3-set or 4-set loss than a 5-set epic loss.
 
A little disappointed a couple of Murray's AO campaigns, otherwise the results were kind of what I expected at the time of those slams to be honest.
 
guitarra said:
But I mean ex-post. Fed’s 40-15 is the prime example. The amount of suffering it caused for his fans is unmatched.
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But you can't know what it truly means to be a fan without going through low-lows...it's what makes the victories so sweet. Short of that, you're just an observer...
 
UnderratedSlam said:
So Murray is 0-4 in 4-setters in slam finales.

Which isn't that strange considering his awful 3-8 finales score. One of the worst ever slam finale score among players with more than 5 finales...

Fred Stolle 2-6
Roche 1-5

Only they are about as bad.

There are only several players who've had many slam finales yet have a negative score. More examples:

Lendl 8-11
Borotra 4-6.

Of course, we must mention Roddick as well 1-4, but he wasn't nearly as gifted as Murray.
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eeeee...

Sorry, just wanted to write a post with as many unnecessary e's as yours.

:cool:
 
Legend of Borg said:
what slam was feather-gate at?

one of the AO finals against Djoker if im not mistaken

that incident is a good summary of Muzza's GS finals mindset
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2013 AO. Murray had won the 1st set on a tie-break and had a break point in the 2nd set breaker (as I recall). Then the bloody feather floated down and completely distracted him. Bad Andy!!! :rolleyes:
 
lud said:
He never even forced 5th set.

2008 USO - 2-6,5-7,2-6
2010 AO - 3-6,4-6,6-7
2011 AO - 4-6,2-6,3-6
2012 WIM - 6-4,5-7,3-6,4-6
2013 AO -7-6,6-7,3-6,2-6
2015 AO - 6-7,7-6,3-6,0-6
2016 AO - 1-6,5-7,6-7
2016 RG - 6-3,1-6,2-6,4-6
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It's incredible that Murray never played Nadal in a grand slam final :confused:
 
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lud said:
He never even forced 5th set.

2008 USO - 2-6,5-7,2-6
2010 AO - 3-6,4-6,6-7
2011 AO - 4-6,2-6,3-6
2012 WIM - 6-4,5-7,3-6,4-6
2013 AO -7-6,6-7,3-6,2-6
2015 AO - 6-7,7-6,3-6,0-6
2016 AO - 1-6,5-7,6-7
2016 RG - 6-3,1-6,2-6,4-6
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He was a particularly weak (sub)-era finals opponent which gifted Djokovic many of his slams too easily.
 
Mainad said:
Still had more success against him in Slam finals than Federer did.
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Were they from the same era your reply might have a point.

Fact: Djokovic got easy rides from his closest peer Murray who, time and time again, made slam final outcomes so predictable as to be a joke.
 
Bobby Jr said:
Were they from the same era your reply might have a point.
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Did Federer's 'different era' account for the fact he could and should have beaten Djokovic in the final of 2019 Wimbledon?

Bobby Jr said:
Fact: Djokovic got easy rides from his closest peer Murray who, time and time again, made slam final outcomes so predictable as to be a joke.
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Murray certainly squandered a few opportunities to beat him in an AO final but the fact remains he is the only player ever to straight set prime Djokovic in a Slam final, only player ever to beat him in a 5 set final and only player ever to beat him in a Wimbledon final (and don't bother trotting out any excuses for Djokovic either).
 
What's strange to me is that he went 4 on clay in 2016, but not at the AO. Really shows the gap between Djokovic and him on hard.
 
Mainad said:
2013 AO. Murray had won the 1st set on a tie-break and had a break point in the 2nd set breaker (as I recall). Then the bloody feather floated down and completely distracted him. Bad Andy!!! :rolleyes:
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This remains possibly the worst thing I have ever witnessed as an avid tennis fan
 
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