AO’23 R16 Men’s Singles: J.J. Wolf (USA) vs Ben Shelton (USA)

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stringertom

stringertom

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junior74 said:
Haha, liking Shelton's spirit!

Let's go! He has a great chance to go to the SF in his debut.
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It’s Tommy Paul in his path. Both of them were tested the hardest in early matches, Shelton winning a decisive STB in 1R while Paul won from down 1-2 in 2R to beat seeded ADF.

The books had Shelton almost even money vs Wolf today while the ESPN/InfoSys pre-match numbers were decidedly (65/35) for Wolf. I would expect Paul to be installed as a favorite but I’m not sure what the numbers will be.
 
Sentinel

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stringertom said:
Shelton has double mp on Wolf’s serve. He needs just the first! 6-7 6-2 6-7 7-6 6-2. Never broken!
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Wow.

I was shuttling between this match and the Rublev one. Then they cut this off in the final set to show Sania.

Hope he has enough in the tank against barrister Tommy.:)
 
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tennis24x7

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PistolPete23 said:
I'd rather watch two young Americans with unique and interesting styles in the fourth round than another Djoko or Nadal vs (insert notable next-gen player) matchup. Shelton is special; true tennis fans recognize skill when they see it.
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Shelton is not special as he is 20. Alcaraz is special see his results at 19 versus Shelton.
 
robow7

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I didn't get to see the whole match so I know it was littered with UE's but those 2 were hitting the hell out of the ball. I can see if Shelton improves his consistency, and he has plenty of time to do so, he's going to be a factor in the future.
 
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stringertom said:
Shelton basically wrote his name in the history books by rising from #560 to live-ranking 65 in a shade over a year. Watch him play and tell me that serve and his other supporting skills won’t take him well past the current ranking.
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Didn't Mardy Fish also not rise the same way? what about Ryan Harrison?
 
BeatlesFan

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tennis24x7 said:
Shelton is not special as he is 20. Alcaraz is special see his results at 19 versus Shelton.
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Inciteful way to judge the future greatness of players.

Ben is 20.3 years old. In November, 2001, Federer was the identical age and had lost 4 finals and won one 500 in Milan.
 
stringertom

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tennis24x7 said:
Didn't Mardy Fish also not rise the same way? what about Ryan Harrison?
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The previous record for a rise from outside the top 500 to inside the top 100 in one season was Jannik Sinner (553 YE 2018 to 78 YE 2019). Shelton went from 573 YE 2021, took half a year off to play NCAA ball and resumed competition within the Challengers in June, won 3 Challengers in a row (finalist 3x earlier) to finish on a 15-match winning streak and gain top 100 at #92.

Neither of your examples ever began a season outside the top 500 and wound up inside top 100 the next season.
 
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stringertom said:
The previous record for a rise from outside the top 500 to inside the top 100 in one season was Jannik Sinner (553 YE 2018 to 78 YE 2019). Shelton went from 573 YE 2021, took half a year off to play NCAA ball and resumed competition within the Challengers in June, won 3 Challengers in a row (finalist 3x earlier) to finish on a 15-match winning streak and gain top 100 at #92.

Neither of your examples ever began a season outside the top 500 and wound up inside top 100 the next season.
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Point taken, I will wait till this years Indian Wells, US Open before calling him legit.
 
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BeatlesFan said:
Inciteful way to judge the future greatness of players.

Ben is 20.3 years old. In November, 2001, Federer was the identical age and had lost 4 finals and won one 500 in Milan.
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Not inciteful, just facts. But in July 2001 he had beaten Sampras at his home court. Has he beaten Nadal or Djokovic yet in a GS? That is a huge difference.
 
stringertom

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Aabye5 said:
Maybe you should try using the search bar. It was still on page 1 as of Sunday.
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I already apologized. What more do you want from me? That’s more of an adult reaction than you exhibited when you called me an idiot months ago. Still waiting for you to man up for that one, dude.
 
LOBALOT

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As you may recall, I expressed concern about the way Shelton acted on court vs. Jarry.

I only caught the first 3 sets as it was 3AM and I had an 8AM meeting in the morning but thought Ben was very professional in his court demeanor. I thought he was externally pumped at appropriate times (great shots, big points) and internally focused the remaining points. I was impressed.

The commentators even indicated he was much more subdued / focused.
 
Aabye5

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stringertom said:
I already apologized. What more do you want from me? That’s more of an adult reaction than you exhibited when you called me an idiot months ago. Still waiting for you to man up for that one, dude.
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It's fine, I just thought it ironic since you are the first to point people to the search bar.

And that conversation devolved pretty quickly, but I can apologize for that one. Don't forget about your deleted posts.
 
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