AO 2011 R32: Rafael Nadal (1) vs Bernard Tomic

Who wins?


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namelessone

Legend
Some of you rafa fans need to get off Nadal's case. He won straight set and was never threaten. Stop being so insecure about his chance of winning this event. Sure he made mistakes, but that's normal... top players Fed, Murray, Nole makes mistakes too. In fact, Fed has more flaws in his game so far, I dont see you written him off. You expect Rafa to be perfect, forget it. Nadal is the favorite to win so stop all this worrying. Geez, nothing satisfy you rafa fans....even if he hit only one error you'll still be hard on him.

Also, Rafa is not sick. He said he was perfectly fine when first arriving to Melbourne. He's the same player as he was last year.

No he isn't. He was sweating buckets in a night game(from the first game of the point) that didn't even go to three hours, was breathing heavily after a couple of rallies, looked sluggish all match and according to him after the match, he lost 2.5 kg in this match and is still suffering from the effects of the flu he had.
 

Talker

Hall of Fame
No he isn't. He was sweating buckets in a night game(from the first game of the point) that didn't even go to three hours, was breathing heavily after a couple of rallies, looked sluggish all match and according to him after the match, he lost 2.5 kg in this match and is still suffering from the effects of the flu he had.

I noticed that with some of the players, really wiping down a lot. Could be the temperature is higher than when the tournament started or more humid.

Good for Nadal, another easy straight set win.
 

AM95

Hall of Fame
Fighting is not the way to play Cilic. You gotta hit everything flat and hard. Nadal doesn't have that kind of game. Cilic will have plenty of time to set up his shots and make Rafa suffer with his flat groundies and world class backhand.

i doubt cilic will beat nadal. he played 5 with isner and went 4 hrs and 55 min. he's got to be a bit tired from that.

that being said ill be rooting for cilic.
 

Sid_Vicious

G.O.A.T.
And I thought some of the Federer fans were being annoying after the 5 setter with Simon.... "Can Roger still win?! :cry:" "What are Roger's chances for the title! :cry:" "OMG! Nadal is gonna kick Rogi's ass :cry:. still always love roger"


I am appalled at the Nadal fans waving the white flags and claiming that Nadal came down with the bubonic plaque last night when the guy hasnt even lost a freakin set yet. :lol:
 

joeri888

G.O.A.T.
No he isn't. He was sweating buckets in a night game(from the first game of the point) that didn't even go to three hours, was breathing heavily after a couple of rallies, looked sluggish all match and according to him after the match, he lost 2.5 kg in this match and is still suffering from the effects of the flu he had.

He's capable of beating a lot of players, said he was fit, and is playing a grandslam, therefore he can be judged on what he does. He played bad tonight. There might be excuses - there always are - but their not that relevant. Not for this tournament anyway. If Rafa decides to retire from the tournament, fine.. if not, don't whine about it.

Rafael Nadal decided to play, so he'll be seen as one of the players, not like some zombie that can't play to normal capacity. If everyone always performed to their normal capacity, Federer would not have an FO, and Nadal would not have a hardcourt slam title. It's irrelevant. Unless we are estimating the amount of improve Nadal might make in the forthcoming days.

I think he'll improve a lot. He's not that sick, and will get better quickly I think.
 

TMF

Talk Tennis Guru
No he isn't. He was sweating buckets in a night game(from the first game of the point) that didn't even go to three hours, was breathing heavily after a couple of rallies, looked sluggish all match and according to him after the match, he lost 2.5 kg in this match and is still suffering from the effects of the flu he had.


So you are saying he lied??

His excuse of losing in Doha was b/c the virus. He had time to rest and then said he's recovered before AO got started. You would think his team would know what to do for him to be fully healed. Come on!

Also, Nadal sweat a lot, he's not like Fed. You notice Roddick sweat very easily too. Not all players sweat the same amount.
 

TMF

Talk Tennis Guru
And I thought some of the Federer fans were being annoying after the 5 setter with Simon.... "Can Roger still win?! :cry:" "What are Roger's chances for the title! :cry:" "OMG! Nadal is gonna kick Rogi's ass :cry:. still always love roger"


I am appalled at the Nadal fans waving the white flags and claiming that Nadal came down with the bubonic plaque last night when the guy hasnt even lost a freakin set yet. :lol:

Roger faced elimination in the 2nd round, Rafa won all of his match in straight set. Big difference !

Overall, Fed fans have WAY more faith than Rafa fans. Some of you expect rafa to be perfect, any blemish, you question his chances. So negative attitude.
 

Sid_Vicious

G.O.A.T.
Roger faced elimination in the 2nd round, Rafa won all of his match in straight set. Big difference !

Overall, Fed fans have WAY more faith than Rafa fans. Some of you expect rafa to be perfect, any blemish, you question his chances. So negative attitude.

You maybe right, TMF. I watched the entire match and the following statement made by a Nadal fan is simply outrageous. :shock:

If Nadal plays like he did against Tomic, then Cilic in 3.
 
No he isn't. He was sweating buckets in a night game(from the first game of the point) that didn't even go to three hours, was breathing heavily after a couple of rallies, looked sluggish all match and according to him after the match, he lost 2.5 kg in this match and is still suffering from the effects of the flu he had.

Nadal sweats a lot. It's kind of normal for him.

I usually sweat 1L per hour with intense exercise. Doesn't mean I am sick :)
 

West Coast Ace

G.O.A.T.
No he isn't....was breathing heavily after a couple of rallies, looked sluggish all match.
That could be from not working out as hard as he should have in December and not getting enough matches before the AO. Your Excuse Meter is going to break - it's only the 3rd round.

If Rafa decides to retire from the tournament, fine.. if not, don't whine about it.
Well said.

Back to the match: as much as I don't want to like Tomic for he and his Dad's punk moves, I am impressed with his game and ability to handle the pressure. Just has to makes sure he wins sets when he's up 4-0... :)
 

Talker

Hall of Fame
Roger faced elimination in the 2nd round, Rafa won all of his match in straight set. Big difference !

Overall, Fed fans have WAY more faith than Rafa fans. Some of you expect rafa to be perfect, any blemish, you question his chances. So negative attitude.

Fed faces adversity better than anyone, that makes the
Fed fans more secure.
 
Hahahah. Don't worry Fed fans, this is just a defence mechanism by the *********s as they prepare themselves mentally for Nadal's imminent loss to Murray. Then after they can say, "See? I told you he's still sick". LOLLLLL. These ****s are actually quite amusing.
 

billnepill

Hall of Fame
It is highly unlikely that he is sick for 2 reasons : 1) He announced he is healthy prior to the start of AO 2) once one's recovered, it is unlikely to get sick again

It is not unusual for Nadal to sweat. You know that. Now include the combination of very high temperature in Melbourn, a fairly good opponent and some lack of physical training due to his sickness. I think, this is more likely.

The first 2 rounds weren't indicative, cause his opponents didn't challenge him enough. Don't know anything about the temperature then, though.
 
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meg0529

Guest
you guys are so full of histrionics :roll:
Your boy has a good draw,he's won all his matches in straights,he has a day to recover for the next but you're talking like he was on the verge of being knocked out .
And I have to laugh at the way you assume that a certain player can win a slam only if poor Nadal is tired or injured.

Sorry, it was in the heat of the moment comment. :(
On the other hand, Murray can win this thing, but he's not demonstrated that he can do so before. I will be rooting for him all the way though. I really like the guy.
 
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meg0529

Guest
Well the camera caught some very uneasy looks to his team. It was as though he wasn't happy to be there. When he won the Australian Open a couple of years ago I think it was even hotter and he didn't look as fed up as he was today. If it is a virus then I don't think antibiotics will help much. Better he gets home to dream about the french open!

Yes his team did look very uneasy and blah. I found that strange. Maybe they were just feeling Rafa's frustration.

Full presser is not available, but some articles gave bits:

"I'm a little more tired and sweating a bit more than usual. I've changed five or six times-shirt and was not so hot. I lost two kilos and a half and I do not usually lose weight in games. Must be consequences even the disease that took in Doha, "admitted the world number one
Nadal was concerned that he tires in training. "When I move with anxiety sweat more. But the worrying thing is that I'm getting tired of training and there I have absolutely no anxiety," he said.
The Balearic player said he had been subjected to analysis of the kind in Doha, "the day after the match with Davydenko and everything was normal. We'll see."
“I didn’t play well,” he said later. As far as his sweating, he said that he’d been getting tired more easily lately. “After Abu Dhabi, I was perfect . . . Now the body isn’t perfect. I don’t know what’s going on.” He even apologized for his subdued press conference performance. “I don’t feel so inspired tonight,” he said, shaking his head.
“I’m more tired than usual and I’m sweating more than usual,” he said. “I changed my shirt five or six times, and it wasn’t that hot. I lost two and a half kilograms” — about five and a half pounds — “and usually I don’t lose weight in my matches. It must be coming from the illness I had in Doha. Maybe my body’s defenses are still down.”

So I guess medically he's fine. But he doesn't feel fine. I guess after effects of the flu and it also seems like he's very disappointed about his performance.

http://www.marca.com/2011/01/22/tenis/open_australia/1295707383.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/23/sports/tennis/23nadal.html?_r=2
http://blogs.tennis.com/thewrap/2011/01/lefties-over-locals.html
 
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billnepill

Hall of Fame
Sorry, it was in the heat of the moment comment. :(
On the other hand, Murray can win this thing, but he's not demonstrated that he can do so before. I will be rooting for him all the way though. I really like the guy.

What? ! You will be rooting for Muzza? Outrage!

Don't you wanna see Rafa Slam?
 

mandy01

G.O.A.T.
Sorry, it was in the heat of the moment comment. :(
On the other hand, Murray can win this thing, but he's not demonstrated that he can do so before. I will be rooting for him all the way though. I really like the guy.
Okay,cool :)
Enjoy the tournament.
 
Yes his team did look very uneasy and blah. I found that strange. Maybe they were just feeling Rafa's frustration.

Full presser is not available, but some articles gave bits:

So I guess medically he's fine. But he doesn't feel fine. I guess after effects of the flu and it also seems like he's very disappointed about his performance.

http://www.marca.com/2011/01/22/tenis/open_australia/1295707383.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/23/sports/tennis/23nadal.html?_r=2
http://blogs.tennis.com/thewrap/2011/01/lefties-over-locals.html

My god, this guy's becoming a caricature. How many god dam excuses can he make, when he's winning in straights? And of course his fanboys *cough* namelessone *cough* eat it up. This is ridiculous. And of course if he loses to Cilic or anyone else we won't hear the end of how sick he was. :roll:
 

bolo

G.O.A.T.
Yeah I had doubts that he was fully recovered, knew there wasn't a lot of information in those early reports saying he was fully recovered. But we have seen nadal look like he did in the early part of the 2nd against other guys on hard courts, even when he is not sweating buckets. Tomic was playing at a very good level in the 2nd and both Tomic and nadal know the 4-0 had little if nothing to do with.

I like what he said about tomic being like murray, "the concept is the same", lol. :)
 
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NadalAgassi

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My god, this guy's becoming a caricature. How many god dam excuses can he make, when he's winning in straights? And of course his fanboys *cough* namelessone *cough* eat it up. This is ridiculous. And of course if he loses to Cilic or anyone else we won't hear the end of how sick he was. :roll:

Of course he is winning in straights. He isnt exactly playing tough opponents so far, his strongest opponent by far has been an 18 year old. It doesnt mean he is 100%. I didnt know he was still sick but Nadal is always very honest so if he says he is, he probably is.
 

Halba

Hall of Fame
Tonight Bernard really showed the game that he could potentially have- he was absolutely destroying Nadal early in the 2nd set. Winner after winner, bang bang bang. He could only keep it up for 20 minutes but that patch of play will be alot more consistent as he ages and gets more experience/fitness. People are saying Nadal played crap but why not give Bernard some credit- Bernard's strength has always been his unpredictability and his ability to mix it up. He's shown a vast amount of improvement since last year- he's shown he DOES have the ability to hit BIG, he's added significant power to his game in the space of 1 year. I reckon this year he'll be on the fringe of the top 100, next year top 50 and the year after I really think he'll be top 20 at least if not top 10.

bernard done nuffin outside of aussie soil. he needs 1 win outside soil, ATP level before i comment
 

tudwell

G.O.A.T.
It's a shame Tomic choked away that second set, but I'm glad I caught the match. I really enjoy Tomic's game. He uses his head more than most players, not just going for winner after winner. What impressed me most was how well he read Nadal's game. Nadal rarely hit behind him or wrong-footed him because he seemed to know where Nadal was going to go most of the time, more so than most players at least. I think that's a big reason Nadal's unforced error count was so high - Tomic made him play more balls than most guys. And he's not really that fast, so it came down to anticipation most of the time. Anyway, glad to see an intelligent young player. Hope he gets his head together.
 

TennisFan3

Talk Tennis Guru
Yes his team did look very uneasy and blah. I found that strange. Maybe they were just feeling Rafa's frustration.

Full presser is not available, but some articles gave bits:







So I guess medically he's fine. But he doesn't feel fine. I guess after effects of the flu and it also seems like he's very disappointed about his performance.

http://www.marca.com/2011/01/22/tenis/open_australia/1295707383.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/23/sports/tennis/23nadal.html?_r=2
http://blogs.tennis.com/thewrap/2011/01/lefties-over-locals.html

You know in MOST of my posts, I said that a top level athlete does NOT recover from illness in just a week. Well he might not have fever, but the after-effects linger for WEEKS or months not days. People thought I was exaggerating.

I knew this would happen, and Nadal, now, personally confirmed it.

So in Doha he achieved NOTHING, but he jeopardized the possibility of doing something that no man has done since 42 yrs. That's just reckless and plain stupid, coz he should have withdrawn right in the middle of the match with Lacko, if he had a little bit of foresight. I know Fed would have. Instead Nadal completes the tournament and for good measure throws in a doubles as well, so that there's NO way in hell to be recovered by the AO.

Basically this has been the story of Nadal's career. He will have no one else to blame, but himself when he crashes out of this slam. And obviously he would never have the chance to do something close to the record he's chasing now, again in his career.

I think after Nadal loses here, he should take 8-10 weeks off, and come back during the clay season. That is the MOST CRUCIAL part of the calender, and the most physically demanding. The current Nadal won't be able to survive several weeks of packed clay + grass court tennis.

If Nadal tries to rush his comeback, it might be like 2009 i.e he would lose both his F.O and W - and Fed would become #1. And then there would be Delpo too, so that it might take him even longer to get back on the top, IF EVER. So this could ultimately be a watershed for Nadal, unless he's not careful.
 
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TennisandMusic

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My god, this guy's becoming a caricature. How many god dam excuses can he make, when he's winning in straights? And of course his fanboys *cough* namelessone *cough* eat it up. This is ridiculous. And of course if he loses to Cilic or anyone else we won't hear the end of how sick he was. :roll:

Get a grip man. You should have watched the match, he played fairly horribly and did not look good. He only likely got through because he was playing such a young inexperienced player. Why are you so uppity about Nadal not playing great?
 

ruerooo

Legend
You know in MOST of my posts, I said that a top level athlete does NOT recover from illness in just a week. Well he might not have fever, but the after-effects linger for WEEKS or months not days. People thought I was exaggerating.

I knew this would happen, and Nadal, now, personally confirmed it.

So in Doha he achieved NOTHING, but he jeopardized the possibility of doing something that no man has done since 42 yrs. That's just reckless and plain stupid, coz he should have withdrawn right in the middle of the match with Lacko, if he had a little bit of foresight. I know Fed would have. Instead Nadal completes the tournament and for good measure throws in a doubles as well, so that there's NO way in hell to be recovered by the AO.

Basically this has been the story of Nadal's career. He will have no one else to blame, but himself when he crashes out of this slam. And obviously he would never have the chance to do something close to the record he's chasing now, again in his career.

I think after Nadal loses here, he should take 8-10 weeks off, and come back during the clay season. That is the MOST CRUCIAL part of the calender, and the most physically demanding. The current Nadal won't be able to survive several weeks of packed clay + grass court tennis.

If Nadal tries to rush his comeback, it might be like 2009 i.e he would lose both his F.O and W - and Fed would become #1. And then there would be Delpo too, so that it might take him even longer to get back on the top, IF EVER. So this could ultimately be a watershed for Nadal, unless he's not careful.

Roger had trouble coming back after he suffered that lung infection before IW. People have short memories around here.

That said, it's not unreasonable for these guys to think that because they play like supermen, their other bodily reaction and recuperation times are going to be equally up to par. It may make them incorrect, but it doesn't make them stupid.

I don't understand why people are so harsh.
 

CCNM

Hall of Fame
I'm glad to see that Tomic gave Rafa a workout. I was expecting a final score of 6-0, 6-1, 6-1 or something.
 
Get a grip man. You should have watched the match, he played fairly horribly and did not look good. He only likely got through because he was playing such a young inexperienced player. Why are you so uppity about Nadal not playing great?

No, you get a grip. Who the hell do you think you are anyways? I saw part of the match but then fell asleep. But nothing seemed out of the ordinary, and Nadal was playing quite well in the first set. Do I think he could still be sick? Possibly. Do I think he's also possibly exaggerating the extent to which his illness is affecting him, just like he does with ALL of his injuries? Yes. THis is typical Nadal. Come up w/ an excuse, so that if he loses it's there to fall back on, and if he wins we get the Warrior Rafa crap all over again. Roddick said it best, you go out to play, you have no excuses. It's really crappy that Nadal always has these things to fall back on if/when he loses matches, so that you guys can eat it up and never give opponents credit.

Also I find it funny that the same fanbase that said Fed was faking mono is now 100% sure that Rafa is gravely ill. Hilarious.
 

West Coast Ace

G.O.A.T.
Get a grip man. You should have watched the match, he played fairly horribly and did not look good. He only likely got through because he was playing such a young inexperienced player. Why are you so uppity about Nadal not playing great?
Isn't it possible he played 'horribly' (your assessment, not mine) because Tomic kept a lot of balls in play and didn't make it easy for him? As opposed to this illness his fanboys have generated (even after Rafa declared himself 100% before the 1st ball was struck). I'll defer to the poster you quoted but I'm pretty sure his post was for the Nadal fans who can't accept that he loses fair and square sometimes on non-clay surfaces.
 

TennisFan3

Talk Tennis Guru
If Nadal is sick now, this explains how Nadal beat Roger at W08 since Roger was still recovering from mono.

Funny that Mono didn't affect Fed when he obliterated Ancic, in one of his most sublime grascourt performances. Or that Mono didn't affect him when he didn't LOSE a single set until the final, in the entire grass court season.

Difference is, Nadal is sick, and you can see it. He's sweating like crazy, back to his 2007 hard court versions : everything landing short with no power; serve AWOL.
That's why he is making a kid like Tomic look so good.
 
Funny that Mono didn't affect Fed when he obliterated Ancic, in one of his most sublime grascourt performances. Or that Mono didn't affect him when he didn't LOSE a single set until the final, in the entire grass court season.

Difference is, Nadal is sick, and you can see it. He's sweating like crazy, back to his 2007 hard court versions : everything landing short with no power; serve AWOL.
That's why he is making a kid like Tomic look so good.

Remind me again how many sets Nadal has lost being so sick? :) And how many sets did he lose before being obliterated by Soderling at FO09??? :))
 

NamRanger

G.O.A.T.
Funny that Mono didn't affect Fed when he obliterated Ancic, in one of his most sublime grascourt performances. Or that Mono didn't affect him when he didn't LOSE a single set until the final, in the entire grass court season.

Difference is, Nadal is sick, and you can see it. He's sweating like crazy, back to his 2007 hard court versions : everything landing short with no power; serve AWOL.
That's why he is making a kid like Tomic look so good.



So according to this logic Federer could not have faked mono at the AO. Ok, good to know.
 

namelessone

Legend
My god, this guy's becoming a caricature. How many god dam excuses can he make, when he's winning in straights? And of course his fanboys *cough* namelessone *cough* eat it up. This is ridiculous. And of course if he loses to Cilic or anyone else we won't hear the end of how sick he was. :roll:

Dude, you don't know what you are talking about.

I said that Nadal did not look right when he won the first set 6-2, way before Nadal gave any statement about his health.

Only a blind person wouldn't see that something was wrong with Nadal physically.

Sweating like a hog from the FIFTH GAME of the match, changed like 4-5 shirts throughout, sluggish from the first point, could barely get the fh past the service line all match long and(if you watch Nadal you'll know how unusual it is for him) breathing heavily after a medium rallies(that is, not that long).

And yes, this guy doesn't sound congested at all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWwlgVo3gFA

Give it up, you are wrong on this one.

I am merely saying that he is still suffering the effects of the cold so don't jump on me on this one.
 

TennisFan3

Talk Tennis Guru
So according to this logic Federer could not have faked mono at the AO. Ok, good to know.

You misunderstood. Fed was CLEARLY sick in AO 2008. That was apparent to anyone who follows him. I mean there was a 5-10% loss in movement and he was sweating like crazy.

I meant that Fed should have recovered from his mono by Wimbledon. Or at the very least the effect would be marginal..
 
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meg0529

Guest
Rafa presser

Rafael Nadal (ESP) def. Bernard Tomic(AUS) 6-2 7-5 6-3

Q. There were some difficult moments out there tonight.
RAFAEL NADAL: Sure, yeah, especially in the second. Yeah, he's a kind of player that is very difficult to play against. His style of game is not easy to play.
He's good, no? He's a better play, and I think he will be better.

Q. What advice do you have for him? He's a talented young player who is just starting his career.
RAFAEL NADAL: I can tell you what I did. What I did is work all the time, to work with humble, illusion and motivation to be a better player, no? That's the only thing that I can say for sure.

Q. Do you feel like you played well tonight?
RAFAEL NADAL: No, I don't think so. I didn't play well tonight. I played short. The movements wasn't the best. The position on court wasn't the best neither.
So the positive thing that the attitude was good all the time. That's true. Even with the 4‑0, I keep fighting for the second. And for moments I did something good in the third. I went to the net more than before, so that's positive thing.
But I have to change a few things if I really want to have chances to win the next match, and I gonna do it.

Q. How long did it take you to understand his game? He doesn't play a very regular game.
RAFAEL NADAL: In general, the most difficult thing is he's a good player, no? So he won the first two matches against not easy players in straight sets. So is a difficult match. And is important victory for me. Even if I didn't play my best tennis, for me win in three sets, 6‑2, 7‑5, 6‑3 is a very positive result for me. I'm very happy for the victory.
Is more important win matches when you are not playing your best than when you are playing your best, no? Yeah, is more difficult and the same time is have better value, I think, because when you are playing well everything is easier. When you're not playing that well, like today, the victory is more important.

Q. You weren't on court very long in the first two matches. Was it good to get a bit extra time and a bit of extra hitting and still get the win?
RAFAEL NADAL: No, is better win easier (smiling). But that's part of the game. Is impossible to win easy in this sport. All the players are really good. All the players are very competitive. That's normal, have a difficult matches like I have today. That's a normal thing.
Every day right now gonna be really difficult. The next match gonna be very difficult and I have to be ready to play my best tennis.

Q. You seemed to be sweating a lot early on, changed your shirt a few times. Were you feeling okay out there?
RAFAEL NADAL: I was perfect when I started the season in Abu Dhabi playing. I was playing perfect and I was feeling perfect physically. In Doha, I had that problem. I wasn't feel very well. Have fever and these things. Seems like after that my body is still not perfect. I am sweating more than usual. I am more tired than usual when I'm playing. That's what happen right now. That's the true.

Q. Was it a bit unusual having the crowd primarily against you?
RAFAEL NADAL: I don't feel that. The normal thing was he's young, he's from Australia. Normal thing is have the crowd behind him. But I don't feel a lot that tonight. I think the crowd was real neutral. The crowd was supporting both of us.
The crowd here in Australia is always fantastic. I played against Lleyton. He's an idol here. It was when I was a kid ‑ little bit more than a kid, but when I had 17 and 18. The crowd was fantastic. Very respectful with both of us. Supporting Lleyton for sure, but supporting myself, too.
Tonight have something similar. Is always nice go on this center court. Atmosphere is always nice I think.

Q. You said you don't have a fever anymore, but the body is getting tired. Are you concerned in the next week the body might not be ready for five sets after five sets?
RAFAEL NADAL: I don't know. Hopefully I gonna improve. I don't know. I don't know what's going on. I am doing all that I can. I am working, I am resting. I can't do more, no? If I don't feel perfect, it's not my fault. It's day of today. All I can say is keep fighting. I have the (indiscernible) here, my biscuits, for the problem maybe. If I eat more, maybe I am better next week.

Q. Do you think in the last year you have made more progress in your tennis game or in your English?
RAFAEL NADAL: I think in my tennis game for sure, no? Cannot be my English because I am not very inspired tonight. But I can speak better.

Q. We saw your father here tonight. Has he been to many Grand Slams to see you play.
RAFAEL NADAL: My father? Yes, he comes here normally. He loves Australia. He loves be here. He loves Melbourne and this tournament. He's coming back every year.
Now my mom was with me in Abu Dhabi and Doha. My father is here, yeah. In Roland Garros normally they come together. But not in the first week normally. In the second week they are coming. But is normal the Grand Slams is important tournaments and I am happy if they are coming.
 

namelessone

Legend
You misunderstood. Fed was CLEARLY sick in AO 2008. That was apparent to anyone who follows him. I mean there was a 5-10% loss in movement and he was sweating like crazy.

I meant that Fed should have recovered from his mono by Wimbledon. Or at the very least the effect would be marginal..

No, that was apparent for anyone with eyes.
 
You misunderstood. Fed was CLEARLY sick in AO 2008. That was apparent to anyone who follows him. I mean there was a 5-10% loss in movement and he was sweating like crazy.

I meant that Fed should have recovered from his mono by Wimbledon. Or at the very least the effect would be marginal..

Ahahha, thank you doctor. Nadal SHOULD have recovered from this sniffles by now.
 

NamRanger

G.O.A.T.
You misunderstood. Fed was CLEARLY sick in AO 2008. That was apparent to anyone who follows him. I mean there was a 5-10% loss in movement and he was sweating like crazy.

I meant that Fed should have recovered from his mono by Wimbledon. Or at the very least the effect would be marginal..



You forget that how sensitive pro players are to change, a cold nearly cost Nadal a set against a young and inexperienced player, while mono took out a whole training block of Federer.



The mono was not affecting him by Wimbledon, but it affected other things, which in turned likely affected him at both the FO and Wimbledon.



It is good to know that there are some sensible people on this forum, unlike T&M. lololol



To be honest I think Nadal is likely still a little fatigued from playing so much during his illness. He's not 100%, but I think he feels good enough that it's not that big of a deal. It's not really an excuse, everyone has to deal with illnesses and injury. If Nadal loses in this tournament, he loses.
 
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TMF

Talk Tennis Guru
Now I've seen everything...you guys compare Fed's mono to a common cold.:shock:

This is beyond absurdity !
 

Bud

Bionic Poster
Tonight Bernard really showed the game that he could potentially have- he was absolutely destroying Nadal early in the 2nd set. Winner after winner, bang bang bang. He could only keep it up for 20 minutes but that patch of play will be alot more consistent as he ages and gets more experience/fitness. People are saying Nadal played crap but why not give Bernard some credit- Bernard's strength has always been his unpredictability and his ability to mix it up. He's shown a vast amount of improvement since last year- he's shown he DOES have the ability to hit BIG, he's added significant power to his game in the space of 1 year. I reckon this year he'll be on the fringe of the top 100, next year top 50 and the year after I really think he'll be top 20 at least if not top 10.

There's no guarantee of that. Even Nadal, not at his best, still handled the kid in 3 sets (albeit 3 long and physical sets).

Many on here did give Tomic credit. He's also proven he's easily a top 50 player and will reach even further in 2011 when he plays a full-time schedule for the first time.

If anything, Tomic needs to work the points more and hold off on pulling the trigger until the right time. Many guys can go out... have a good day and bang winner after winner for 3-4 games in a set. The question is can they actually win a best 3/5 match against the very elite in the game.
 
Dude, you don't know what you are talking about.

I said that Nadal did not look right when he won the first set 6-2, way before Nadal gave any statement about his health.

Only a blind person wouldn't see that something was wrong with Nadal physically.

Sweating like a hog from the FIFTH GAME of the match, changed like 4-5 shirts throughout, sluggish from the first point, could barely get the fh past the service line all match long and(if you watch Nadal you'll know how unusual it is for him) breathing heavily after a medium rallies(that is, not that long).

And yes, this guy doesn't sound congested at all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWwlgVo3gFA

Give it up, you are wrong on this one.

I am merely saying that he is still suffering the effects of the cold so don't jump on me on this one.

This is not about whether or not Nadal is/may be ill. It's about what Nadal always does, which is play up illnesses/injuries to have some excuse in case he loses. Even if he doesn't make these excuses himself, fans/commentators make them for him and take credit from opponents. This year all we hear about is how Nadal was 'injured' when he lost last year to Murray, even though the injury occurred during the match, and Nadal was already getting his arse whipped when he quit.

Nadal said before the tourney he was 100%, now after training and practicing before the tourney, and getting through 2 matches w/o hassle, we hear the excuses start when he plays poorly. It's ridiculous.
 

NamRanger

G.O.A.T.
This is not about whether or not Nadal is/may be ill. It's about what Nadal always does, which is play up illnesses/injuries to have some excuse in case he loses. Even if he doesn't make these excuses himself, fans/commentators make them for him and take credit from opponents. This year all we hear about is how Nadal was 'injured' when he lost last year to Murray, even though the injury occurred during the match, and Nadal was already getting his arse whipped when he quit.

Nadal said before the tourney he was 100%, now after training and practicing before the tourney, and getting through 2 matches w/o hassle, we hear the excuses start when he plays poorly. It's ridiculous.



Sometimes it's hard to tell if you are ill unless you are under physical duress, especially if it is a minor cold.


I'm not saying that Nadal hasn't made excuses for himself in the past, but this is probably one of the few times he is legitimately not making BS up.
 
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