AO 2014 QF: Novak Djokovic (2) vs Stanislas Wawrinka (8)

Who wins?


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Bud

Bionic Poster
Djokovic lost? I turned it off this morning in the 5th after Wawa lost serve :lol:

Should have kept watching

Countdown until Becker is history... 9 - 8 - 7
 
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Deleted member 77403

Guest
uh, who won last year vs this year :confused:

please face it; Nole loves slower hardcourts, not Nadal as is the ongoing fallacy around here...
You are acting like Djokovic took Wawrinka to the woodshed last year. He barely won by the skin of his teeth last year, and could have easily been knocked out. I guess you didn't see how much Stan enjoyed the conditions, and how many times he had Novak on the ropes.

I know what you are doing with your Nadal agenda, but find a better argument. This one doesn't cut it. Both matches between Stan and Nole were decided by mere points, not sets.
 
I have called Wawrinka over rated because I thought his match last year was a fluke, and I take it back. That was a great match. Showed his grit and resilience. Respect for Wawa. Apologies to all his fans.
 

The_Order

G.O.A.T.
You've lost respect for him 'cause he was cheering his compatriot, teammate and doubles partner?
Is this the same compatriot, team mate and doubles partner he tried to cheat against at IW last year?

Is this the same guy that he put down in a Davis Cup press conference re his performances when he himself also lost? To a lower ranked player btw?

I'm thinking deep downhe's happy a potential threat to his chances is gone. Unfortunately for him, Rafa is still alive for the moment.
 

maxrenn

Legend
I just caught the highlights. Djokovics reaction at getting break point and then breaking in the 4th set was horrible, as was his roar for winning the set and the break at the beginning of the 5th. When I see this behaviour on court it makes me remember what I dislike about him and that I am glad he lost to Stan who showed much more dignity and respect for his opponent. So this is the 2nd time Djokovic has been up a break in the 5th and lost the match, also 9-7 in games, not sure what this means. the rest of the year should be interesting for him, can he come back and challenge at Roland Garros and Wimbledon again? You would have to think he will.
 
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Nathaniel_Near

Guest
What did Wilander say? Usually he's idiotic, but if he said something wise I'm sure we'd all love to hear it.
Likely referring to Wilander saying that Fed's balls shrink when he comes up against Nadal at RG, or something along those lines.
 

Team10

Hall of Fame
Wawrinka in 5 is what I'm hoping for. Djokovic in 3 or 4 is what I think will happen, unfortunately.
All you need is a little hope :)

So glad Stan won, I'm watching the replay of the match now. Great win for him, tough loss for Djokovic, but he'll bounce back. Always does.

I think Wawrinka has a VERY good chance at beating Berdych in the SF and making his first GS Final. The real question is, who will he be meeting there? Nadal, Fed, Murray, hell maybe Dimitrov? Idk but should be a great final either way.
 

Steve0904

Talk Tennis Guru
Is this the same compatriot, team mate and doubles partner he tried to cheat against at IW last year?

Is this the same guy that he put down in a Davis Cup press conference re his performances when he himself also lost? To a lower ranked player btw?

I'm thinking deep downhe's happy a potential threat to his chances is gone. Unfortunately for him, Rafa is still alive for the moment.
You're looking too far into it I think. You can disagree and still be friends with someone. Especially if it's (possibly) long standing before you have a disagreement. You usually make up better then. I don't think Stan and Fed's relationship is terribly bad. Maybe not the best, but I don't think they hate each other. Just my 2 cents.
 
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Deleted member 77403

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You're looking too far into it I think. You can disagree and still be friends with someone. Especially if it's (possibly) long standing before you have a disagreement. You usually make up better then. I don't think Stan and Fed's relationship is terribly bad. Maybe not the best, but I don't think they hate each other. Just my 2 cents.
Yeah. I mean, they won olympic gold together.
 

Sartorius

Hall of Fame
Missed it, work be damned. Wawrinka has been one of the most dangerous players on the tour lately. Still surprised though. Pleasantly I must admit, it's good to see one of the "other guys" make a deep run.
 

DRII

G.O.A.T.
You are acting like Djokovic took Wawrinka to the woodshed last year. He barely won by the skin of his teeth last year, and could have easily been knocked out. I guess you didn't see how much Stan enjoyed the conditions, and how many times he had Novak on the ropes.

I know what you are doing with your Nadal agenda, but find a better argument. This one doesn't cut it. Both matches between Stan and Nole were decided by mere points, not sets.
doesn't matter. Nole loves slow hardcourts! his defeat in this match is not the only evidence that points to this.

my only agenda is to alleviate ignorance such as Nadal being the player that loves slow conditions. this is simply not the case. Nadal enjoys high bounce conditions so he can better get under the ball and produce his tremendous top-spin and impact incredible shape on the ball. a faster hardcourt actually aids Nadal in his efficiency and puts even more pressure on his opponents.

Nole is the one who prefers slow HC conditions!
 
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Deleted member 77403

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doesn't matter. Nole loves slow hardcourts! his defeat in this match is not the only evidence that points to this.

my only agenda is to alleviate ignorance such as Nadal being the player that loves slow conditions. this is simply not the case. Nadal enjoys high bounce conditions so he can better get under the ball and produce his tremendous top-spin and impact incredible shape on the ball. a faster hardcourt actually aids Nadal in his efficiency and puts even more pressure on his opponents.

Nole is the one who prefers slow HC conditions!
Like I said, I can see your agenda. A blind, sleeping in the dark basement Stevie Wonder can see what your agenda is. All I am saying is, and I will stick to it, that you used the result of this match as a poor example. Since, just like last year, this match up between these two was decided by mere points. And some say, if Stan had challenged that line call, he would have won that match also. Nole didn't get destroyed in this match, it went to the wire, just like last year.
 

DRII

G.O.A.T.
Like I said, I can see your agenda. A blind, sleeping in the dark basement Stevie Wonder can see what your agenda is. All I am saying is, and I will stick to it, that you used the result of this match as a poor example. Since, just like last year, this match up between these two was decided by mere points. And some say, if Stan had challenged that line call, he would have won that match also. Nole didn't get destroyed in this match, it went to the wire, just like last year.
seems as though you actually agree with my premise: Nole liking slow hard courts, not Nadal. so i'm not sure why you are so defensive :confused:

and sorry, but Nole won last year and lost this year. doesn't ultimately matter how close the result was, and please don't forget Nole's favorable/lopsidied h2h against Wawrinka.

i'll confidently conjecture that if the conditions were not faster this year, Nole would have defeated Wawrinka just like last year...
 

NRod2

Rookie
As long as its anyone but Rafa holding that trophy at the end of it all, I will have enjoyed this year's AO.
 

Towser83

G.O.A.T.
Well I never thought it would be another epic but it was.I felt though if it went five that Stan would win.

I am dissapointed the final will probably be a massive anti climax unless Murray makes it out of his side of the draw in which case it could be very competitive, but can't begrudge Stan his win.Hats off to him for coming through this, he must have been in turmoil thinking he could lose a match like this again, but he pulled it out of the bag
 

Towser83

G.O.A.T.
seems as though you actually agree with my premise: Nole liking slow hard courts, not Nadal. so i'm not sure why you are so defensive :confused:

and sorry, but Nole won last year and lost this year. doesn't ultimately matter how close the result was, and please don't forget Nole's favorable/lopsidied h2h against Wawrinka.

i'll confidently conjecture that if the conditions were not faster this year, Nole would have defeated Wawrinka just like last year...
Erm yes it does matter. If you're talking about how a court suits someone's game, you have to look at the the quality of play, not just the result. Weren't you constantly saying that Nadal's 2011 results in making finals didn't matter because you had to look at how he played? Now it's all about results and you're not looking at anything else, so a total turnaround for you.

Nole does do better on slower HC in my opinion, so I agree there but this match wasn't lost because of the court being faster, all three 5 setters between Stan and Nole were close and in this one Stan did not give Djokovic any more trouble than he did last year, he just happened to be the one that secured the vital break. Stan gave Novak possibly more trouble last year and may have been robbed of winning by a bad call, there was no difference in how Djokovic was affected by the court. Fast or slow,Stan just seems to cause Nolemassive problems at the moment.

If it were just based on results would you conclude that two matches between the same players on exactly the same speed court but with differing outcomes, had been down to one player wearing a different colour shirt or something?
 

fps

Legend
Well played Stan! Didn't think he'd have it in him at the final hurdle, always been good enough to take the best to 5, what an opportunity for him and Berdych in the semis! Brilliant stuff!
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
LOL, Roger Federer tweeted this.

Roger Federer ‏@rogerfederer 13h
So deserving for Stan the man #nevergiveup #whatamatch #sohappy

Is that all he can say for his buddy ?
 

DragonBlaze

Hall of Fame
seems as though you actually agree with my premise: Nole liking slow hard courts, not Nadal. so i'm not sure why you are so defensive :confused:

and sorry, but Nole won last year and lost this year. doesn't ultimately matter how close the result was, and please don't forget Nole's favorable/lopsidied h2h against Wawrinka.

i'll confidently conjecture that if the conditions were not faster this year, Nole would have defeated Wawrinka just like last year...
So why the heck did Wawrinka lose at the US Open? :|
 

abmk

Bionic Poster
seems as though you actually agree with my premise: Nole liking slow hard courts, not Nadal. so i'm not sure why you are so defensive :confused:

and sorry, but Nole won last year and lost this year. doesn't ultimately matter how close the result was, and please don't forget Nole's favorable/lopsidied h2h against Wawrinka.

i'll confidently conjecture that if the conditions were not faster this year, Nole would have defeated Wawrinka just like last year...
did someone else tell you you were delusional ? oh wait, I think quite a few have said that. Anyways let me say that again. :twisted:
 

DRII

G.O.A.T.
did someone else tell you you were delusional ? oh wait, I think quite a few have said that. Anyways let me say that again. :twisted:
the only delusion is that coming from Nadal haters. i see my speaking the truth has brought some of you veterans of such out of the wood-work again.

Nole favors slower hard courts, not Nadal! i suggest you all start dealing with it :twisted:
 

FreeBird

Legend
I just caught the highlights. Djokovics reaction at getting break point and then breaking in the 4th set was horrible, as was his roar for winning the set and the break at the beginning of the 5th. When I see this behaviour on court it makes me remember what I dislike about him and that I am glad he lost to Stan who showed much more dignity and respect for his opponent.
I hope that you are watching today's match blindfolded after this comment of yours yesterday. :lol:
 
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