AO 2015 QF: [6] Andy Murray vs. Nick Kyrgios

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DimitrovTheGoat said:
Dimitrov belonged with Murray. They were in the same class and some suspiciously bad calls by the line judge kept their match from going 5 sets.


Kyrgios just got blown off the court. It was like a child playing a man.
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Dimitrov has been on the tour about 4 years longer than Kyrgios. Remind me, what he was doing at 19?
 
I think Federer needs a good 3 months off. He needs to Go on his yacht, have a few piña coladas with mirka on a private island somewhere, and get away from tennis and relax for a while. He will come back stronger than ever.
 
DimitrovTheGoat said:
Dimitrov belonged with Murray. They were in the same class and some suspiciously bad calls by the line judge kept their match from going 5 sets.


Kyrgios just got blown off the court. It was like a child playing a man.
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Kyrgios would have beaten Dimitrov.
 
Great match from Murray,Kyrgios played well and will further develop his game throughout 2015 and might be a major threat in 2016.
 
DimitrovTheGoat said:
Kyrgios just isn't that good. He'll never win a major.
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Legend of Borg said:
we're still waiting for grigor's slam final....
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Murray up to 5 in the world after reaching the SF. Could become #3 I believe if he reaches the final..
 
Sabratha said:
What was Tsonga doing at 19? Lol.

He could end up with a Murray like career even.
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It's clear that Murray amplified all the weak areas in Nick's game and gave him a thorough examination and put them under the spotlight, and yet Nick consistently tried to find solutions to the Murray game and changed his tempi impressively from the baseline.


Plenty to work on for Nick over the course of this year... plenty of room for growth and yet he's already an impressive prospect.
 
Who you referring to, me? You make some pretty wild assumptions if that's the case. I've liked Kyrgios for a long time, and Dimitrov for even longer.

ALL ABOARD BOTH BANDWAGONS.
 
And don't forget KEI NISHIKORI.. what a player!

May they all rule tennis together.
 
Nathaniel_Near said:
It's clear that Murray amplified all the weak areas in Nick's game and gave him a thorough examination and put them under the spotlight, and yet Nick consistently tried to find solutions to the Murray game and changed his tempi impressively from the baseline.


Plenty to work on for Nick over the course of this year... plenty of room for growth and yet he's already an impressive prospect.
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Nick has plenty of time to grow and develop. He isn't going to be a Nadal, he's going to be a later developer like Federer I think.

He has matched Federer's records at the same age too, with 2 QF rounds in a major as a teenager.
 
Sabratha said:
Nick has plenty of time to grow and develop. He isn't going to be a Nadal, he's going to be a later developer like Federer I think.

He has matched Federer's records at the same age too, with 2 QF rounds in a major as a teenager.
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Yep, on a similar pace as Federer for reaching a Slam winning level, though of course he'll never win nearly as much as Roger overall. He'll win Slams though.
 
Nathaniel_Near said:
Yep, on a similar pace as Federer for reaching a Slam winning level, though of course he'll never win nearly as much as Roger overall. He'll win Slams though.
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He's not going to win 17 Grand Slams, but he could win 2 or 3 in due time.
 
Great win for Murray, he can go all the way here now.

As for Kyrgios, I was measuring his power level.

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Sabratha said:
He's not going to win 17 Grand Slams, but he could win 2 or 3 in due time.
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I'm guessing about 5.

Old legends are getting old and the space needs to be taken by the likes of Nick.

Coric also looks a promising prospect and is already quite mature, physically and mentally. His forehand is a question mark for me but apparently he is in the process of somewhat remodelling it.


@Hitman - haha!

Kyrgios has a fierce spirit and so does Coric. Era of the fierce energies are coming (they exude a different aura and energy to Nadal and Djokovic.. it's a sort of eagerness that both of them have).
 
Bad luck to our country man Kyrgios played very well very proud of him his future looks very bright can't wait to see him play again! He puts up a good fight was a bit unlucky he didn't get that challenge poor umpiring but it's done and dusted now just gotta move on and forget stuff like that it's in the history books now!!! Good luck 4 the rest of the year Nicky Boy!!! :)
 
Nathaniel_Near said:
I'm guessing about 5.

Old legends are getting old and the space needs to be taken by the likes of Nick.

Coric also looks a promising prospect and is already quite mature, physically and mentally. His forehand is a question mark for me but apparently he is in the process of somewhat remodelling it.
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He could win 5, anything is possible right now. He's young, talented and he has the world at his fingertips.

Old legends are getting older, that's true, but players like Murray and Djokovic will still be around for a little while I think. And they're going to be the ones who pose him the most trouble, especially Murray with his variety.
 
Sabratha said:
He could win 5, anything is possible right now. He's young, talented and he has the world at his fingertips.

Old legends are getting older, that's true, but players like Murray and Djokovic will still be around for a little while I think. And they're going to be the ones who pose him the most trouble, especially Murray with his variety.
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Since when did you have that signature by the way? Very nice.
 
excellent match from Murray
Kyrgios has too many faults in his game, he wins matches with guts and his serve but i'm really doubtful he will be a great champion in the future
 
Well you did predict some months back that Dimitrov would win 8 Slams and he game was littered with holes at the same age... also compare their results at the same age, or Nishikori's, or anyone from that group. Kyrgios is coming up with some goods pretty early on especially against the grain of this supposedly ''too physical era''.

What say you sir?
 
Nathaniel_Near said:
Coric also looks a promising prospect and is already quite mature, physically and mentally. His forehand is a question mark for me but apparently he is in the process of somewhat remodelling it.


@Hitman - haha!

Kyrgios has a fierce spirit and so does Coric. Era of the fierce energies are coming (they exude a different aura and energy to Nadal and Djokovic.. it's a sort of eagerness that both of them have).
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those 2 young guys (kyrgios and coric) don't seem to lack self-confidence (!)... i'm waiting for their 1st meeting on the tour. :)

too bad nick didn't beat the muzzette today... but it might change soon.
 
Supertegwyn said:
So you're saying that liking a new player after they play an impressive tournament is "pathetic", and that the only criteria that would explain this behaviour would be the nationality of the person?

God you are a wanker.
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No I'm saying that jumping from one player to another because one is winning more is pathetic. He was down playing Dimitrov whom he was drooling over before this began and saying Kyrgios is goku! Understand now.
 
Nathaniel_Near said:
Well you did predict some months back that Dimitrov would win 8 Slams and he game was littered with holes at the same age... also compare their results at the same age, or Nishikori's, or anyone from that group. Kyrgios is coming up with some goods pretty early on especially against the grain of this supposedly ''too physical era''.

What say you sir?
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I guess i was wrong about Dimitrov but 5 grand slams is definitely achievable for him. We'll see (I am not a fan).
 
Nathaniel_Near said:
Would be surprised if he won less than 3.

The guy is fast tracking himself to the elite level... he's in a hurry unlike the Dimitrov generation.
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It helps that the Dimitrov generation faced prime Djokovic and Nadal and a decent Federer, whereas Kyrgios is coming through at (what appears to be) the opportune moment in time. I refer you to the thread I made a short while ago about talent being overrated in comparison with luck. I made this point precisely.
 
I wonder if Grigor had the same funding and a Bulgarian Grand Slam, where he'd have gotten to. If only you knew the disparity in the backgrounds of some players. It sometimes amazes me how "pundits" here talk as if tennis is equally accessible across the globe.
 
torpantennis said:
Kyrgios does not bend his knees. He has no trouble against high bouncing heavy topspin, but will struggle against low bouncing slices. If Murray plays with good tactics, he will slice Kyrgios away and win in 3.

But since I want a great semi match-up with Nadal topspin vs. Kyrgios winner blasting without knee-bend, I wish Murray loses. Murray has 0% chance vs. Nadal.
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Murray did exactly this! He sliced Kyrgios to death. What did I say.
 
Murray is just a better player. He can defend most of the big hits from Kyrgios then hits big shots Kyrgios can't defend.
 
Kyrgios did well given the limitations in his ground game. The kyrgios groundstrokes dont penetrate enough. Almost everyone he played from Delbonis onwards hit better groundstrokes than him and blasted a pile of winners past him. He lived on his serve and scraped through matches. He has the type of groundstroke fundamantals that are hard to improve on too much. He's going to have some good wins sometimes because he has a big serve but I dont expect any big tournament wins from him anytime soon.
 
Fedex said:
The links between Scotland and Australia stretch back to 1770 not too long after the Battle of Culloden and the resulting genocide and clearances in the Highlands.

By 1830 around 15% of Australians were Scots.

By 1850 that had grown to 20 - 25%.

Today 1.8 million Australians claim Scottish ancestry, which is 8.9% of the population and 130,000 residents were born in Scotland.

Nuff said.
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Great to hear from you mate, I thought you were deid! We OK post the referendum?
 
More or less what was expected. Kyrgios has a bright future. He will be no. 1 in a few year's time if he doesn't waste his talent.
 
Kyrgios is a fun guy to watch, at least until his bad boy act gets eventually old, and it seems the big stage doesn't phase him out. But I wouldn't make such wild projections of 47 slams just yet, I could definitely also see him fizzle out through the years à la Monfils.
 
Russeljones said:
I wonder if Grigor had the same funding and a Bulgarian Grand Slam, where he'd have gotten to. If only you knew the disparity in the backgrounds of some players. It sometimes amazes me how "pundits" here talk as if tennis is equally accessible across the globe.
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Russeljones said:
It helps that the Dimitrov generation faced prime Djokovic and Nadal and a decent Federer, whereas Kyrgios is coming through at (what appears to be) the opportune moment in time. I refer you to the thread I made a short while ago about talent being overrated in comparison with luck. I made this point precisely.
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Made the point myself enough times myself but it only matters at the much higher ranks not at the breakthrough level. It's simple: Kyrgios is ahead of those guys at the same age and him being Australian and having a home Grand Slam doesn't account for enough of the obvious gap... it isn't like Dimitrov was underprivileged and lacked chances. Kyrgios' ranking is going to rise much faster than those guys in general and it has little to do with what versions of the very elite he's facing.

There is no shame in admitting that Kyrgios has just had the way faster start even if he was comparatively slightly aided, whether that trend continues is another matter but at the moment it's undeniable and foolish to try and refute without seeming like too staunch a Dimitrov defender, and that's coming from a Dimitrov fan who to this day believes he will win Slams.

So people knocking Kyrgios right now so much - something you usually jump on a criticise others for, people criticising players unjustly when they are still the new kid on the block, at least it's what you incessantly do for Dimitrov - should realise just how well he is doing for his current time.


It is that simple.
 
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