AO 2017 Federer vs AO 2024 Sinner - Who wins?

[aman92]

AO 2017 Federer faces AO 2024 Sinner in a hypothetical final.
Federer was nearly geriatric, recovering from knee surgery but equipped with his neo backhand.
Sinner playing sublime hard court tennis who had just handed peak Djokovic his first loss in AO semis and ended his 33 match tournament win streak.

I think Federer takes this in 4.

 

[AnOctorokForDinner]

Sinner is unproven against good opponent so I'm taking Federer. Might be a fun match for a while though.

 

[CHillTennis]

AO 2017 Federer faces AO 2024 Sinner in a hypothetical final.
Federer was nearly geriatric, recovering from knee surgery but equipped with his neo backhand.
Sinner playing sublime hard court tennis who had just handed peak Djokovic his first loss in AO semis and ended his 33 match tournament win streak.

I think Federer takes this in 4.

Federer in straights.

 

[bnjkn]

Tough one. If you chose 2017 IW Federer I would say Federer wins. At the AO I think he was still building his confidence. It would be a close match for sure.

 

[DSH]

Sinner is unproven against good opponent so I'm taking Federer. Might be a fun match for a while though.

And how about against Federer's 2018 version of the Australian Open?

 

[DSH]

Federer in straights.

We're talking about the 2017 version of Federer in Australia, not the 2007 version.

 

[CHillTennis]

We're talking about the 2017 version of Federer in Australia, not the 2007 version.

Oh. Well, in that case, maybe one set goes to a tie-break.

 

[CHillTennis]

The overrating of Sinner continues...

 

[bnjkn]

I think the 2018 version of Fed would lose to Sinner, probably in 5. It was clearly not as strong as 2017.

 

[mike danny]

I think the 2018 version of Fed would lose to Sinner, probably in 5. It was clearly not as strong as 2017.

I agree. Sinner might be the best player both 2018 Fed and 2024 Djokovic faced.

But I feel like Fed was in slightly better form throughout 2018 than Djokovic here. At least he reached the final without dropping a set, even against big servers and power hitters like Struff and Berdych.

 

[DSH]

I think the 2018 version of Fed would lose to Sinner, probably in 5. It was clearly not as strong as 2017.

Cilic would have won the final if it had been played outdoors, but Tiley had other plans for his then favorite mate.

 

[mike danny]

Cilic would have won the final if it was played outdoors but Tiley had other plans for his then favorite mate.

Fed doesn't need any sort of help to beat Marin Cilic in a slam final.

 

[BauerAlmeida]

I think the 2018 version of Fed would lose to Sinner, probably in 5. It was clearly not as strong as 2017.

2018 loses for sure.

2017 can go either way. I give the edge to Federer because of experience in those stages.

 

[DSH]

Fed doesn't need any sort of help to beat Marin Cilic in a slam final.

Cilic did not think the same and in the end there was no reason for that final to be played indoors.
Don't worry, your idol won't lose his title despite Tiley's tricks.

 

[dapchai]

3 golden sets for Federer by default.

 

[bnjkn]

I agree. Sinner might be the best player both 2018 Fed and 2024 Djokovic faced.

But I feel like Fed was in slightly better form throughout 2018 than Djokovic here. At least he reached the final without dropping a set, even against big servers and power hitters like Struff and Berdych.

Yes, 2018 was still very solid, definitely better than this Djokovic.

 

[aman92]

I agree. Sinner might be the best player both 2018 Fed and 2024 Djokovic faced.

But I feel like Fed was in slightly better form throughout 2018 than Djokovic here. At least he reached the final without dropping a set, even against big servers and power hitters like Struff and Berdych.

Fed 2018 was clearly better than Djokovic 2024 - no questions asked. But the 2018 AO field was really bad - Djokovic returning from injury, Nadal injured after leading against Cilic, Murray and Stan severely declined and injured and no younger players good enough to challenge.

 

[nolefam_2024]

What a passive aggressive thread by a Rafan

And includes 3 guys not one of them is Nadal

The user mentioned Federer is geriatric then mentioned Nole is peak ( like he can't have issues due to sickness or anything )

Then gave Federer the win.

If this is not starting fan war I don't know what is.

 

[Third Serve]

Sinner hasn’t really been tested against anyone remotely good. Maybe that will change with Medvedev.

 

[aman92]

What a passive aggressive thread by a Rafan

And includes 3 guys not one of them is Nadal

The user mentioned Federer is geriatric then mentioned Nole is peak ( like he can't have issues due to sickness or anything )

Then gave Federer the win.

If this is not starting fan war I don't know what is.

Chill mate.....these are just opinions. No one is starting any fan wars lol.

 

[mahatma]

Oh no a hypothetical. Is there Federer involved. Damn yes!

Need to type fast…..


It’s Federer in straights. Oh wait, it’s not the “so called mythical prime”, it’s probably a bit late. Never mind — “ Federer in 4”.

Phew, hope world is still right. I did my part well, I know.

 

[GabeT]

Oh no a hypothetical. Is there Federer involved. Damn yes!

Need to type fast…..


It’s Federer in straights. Oh wait, it’s not the “so called mythical prime”, it’s probably a bit late. Never mind — “ Federer in 4”.

Phew, hope world is still right. I did my part well, I know.

Hypothetical Fed remains unbeaten.

 

[mahatma]

Hypothetical Fed remains unbeaten.

And a fit Nadal is yet to lose a match.

 

[GabeT]

And a fit Nadal is yet to lose a match.

Hypothetical Fed vs Uninjured Bull. The unstoppable force meets the unmovable object.

Novak can’t possibly compete and will have to settle to just have the slam and #1 records. Sad, really.

 

[mike danny]

Cilic did not think the same and in the end there was no reason for that final to be played indoors.
Don't worry, your idol won't lose his title despite Tiley's tricks.

Well, he still got breadsticked in the 5th despite having all the momentum. Can't blame the roof for that.

 

[mahatma]

Hypothetical Fed vs Uninjured Bull. The unstoppable force meets the unmovable object.

Novak can’t possibly compete and will have to settle to just have the slam and #1 records. Sad, really.

It’s a tie between Hypofed and Fitdal. Always.

 

[Megafanoftennis100]

Sinner wins this one, he is already superior to 2011 Djokovic in terms of his level at the AO.
Unless you think that 2017 Federer is better than 2011 Djokovic at AO, Sinner takes this match in straight sets.

 

[darthrafa]

dont get overexcited
even djoker admit the loss is mainly because he played badly

fed got everything right at 2017 and played very very well

 

[D.Nalby12]

Fed wins.

 

[Razer]

2017 Federer would win

 

[MrFlip]

A fairer match would be 2024 Sinner vs 2016 Federer

 

[Mazz Retic]

Hypothetical Fed vs Uninjured Bull. The unstoppable force meets the unmovable object.

Novak can’t possibly compete and will have to settle to just have the slam and #1 records. Sad, really.

I’ve heard injured Novak could be unbeatable in hypothetical matches.

 

[Im(moral) Winner]

Cilic would have won the final if it had been played outdoors, but Tiley had other plans for his then favorite mate.

Cilic plays better indoors. Wrong as usual from you.

 

[Pheasant]

I have no idea how Sinner would match up against a guy like Federer. Matchups make a difference. The few times Fed played Med, he trashed him.

My gut says 2017 Fed in 5 over 2024 Sinner. But 2024 Sinner takes out 2018 Fed in 4

 

[Third Serve]

I have no idea how Sinner would match up against a guy like Federer. Matchups make a difference. The few times Fed played Med, he trashed him.

My gut says 2017 Fed in 5 over 2024 Sinner. But 2024 Sinner takes out 2018 Fed in 4

If Sinner plays like he did in the first two sets of this final, 2018 Fed beats him in 3/4.

 

[abmk]

Fed takes Sinner out in 4 tight sets or a 5-setter like he did Wawa and Cilic.
if Sinner plays like in the final, then easier 4-setter.

 

[Rosstour]

If Fed can beat the supposed GOAT, the one guy who supposedly completely owned him in H2H for their entire careers, and that guy was not even 30 at the time...he isn't losing to ANYONE in that form

 

[NedStark]

I’d love to see Federer moving Sinner around like a toy

 

[RS]

Cilic would have won the final if it had been played outdoors, but Tiley had other plans for his then favorite mate.

Let's call it a 50-50

 

[Megafanoftennis100]

The overrating of Sinner continues...

Sinner triple bagels 35 year old weak era Fred

 

[BeatlesFan]

Federer in straights.

These Sinner comparisons to Fed have just got to stop, they're truly embarrassing. Those idiotically making the comparisons obviously never even saw Fed play or were 3 years old in his active playing days.

2017 Fed beats any version of Sinner in straights and there's about 0% doubt in that. 2017 Fed beats any active ATP player in straights, even Djokovic in his current form.

 

[Megafanoftennis100]

These Sinner comparisons to Fed have just got to stop, they're truly embarrassing. Those idiotically making the comparisons obviously never even saw Fed play or were 3 years old in his active playing days.

2017 Fed beats any version of Sinner in straights and there's about 0% doubt in that. 2017 Fed beats any active ATP player in straights, even Djokovic in his current form.

Dude, I watched the whole SEASON in 2017. There is no way that old Fed touches 2024-present prime Jannik Sinner, not even at Wimbledon.
By the way, 2 months ago, we already got an accurate idea about how a match between 2011 Djokovic and 2024 Sinner would go at the AO.
So are you implying that 2017 Federer is considerably better than 2011 Djokovic at Australian Open?!! LMAO you should be the one to stop.

 

[TheGoldenEra1990’s]

Sinner went down two sets to med. so I’ll take Fed in 4 probably. Feds level was good that yea. (Even though he should have lost to Nadal probably)

 

[bnjkn]

2017 AO Fed was still a bit inconsistent. Had to play many 5 set matches. I'm sure it would be a tough match for either of them. After Fed managed to beat Nadal it seems his confidence improved a lot. 2017 Indian Wells Fed, now that was a beast and would probably beat 2024 Sinner. But still not an easy match. Sinner is playing at an extremely high level right now.

 

[BeatlesFan]

2017 Indian Wells Fed, now that was a beast and would probably beat 2024 Sinner. But still not an easy match. Sinner is playing at an extremely high level right now.

Suffocating laughter, sorry. I saw Fed live at IW in 2017 playing his first three matches. There is no version of Sinner that is an "extremely high level" that gets close to 2017 to Federer. His serve, volley, FH, anticipation and experience are a 0 compared to old Roger.

 

[helterskelter]

Fed doesn't need any sort of help to beat Marin Cilic in a slam final.

Beyond the help that is playing Marin Cilic in a slam final.

 

[MeatTornado]

Suffocating laughter, sorry. I saw Fed live at IW in 2017 playing his first three matches. There is no version of Sinner that is an "extremely high level" that gets close to 2017 to Federer. His serve, volley, FH, anticipation and experience are a 0 compared to old Roger.

Seeing someone in person doesn't really matter for comparison sake unless you've seen both players.

I don't know, maybe you'd have a completely different appreciation for this 2024 Sinner if you saw him up close.

 

[metsman]

Hmm if only we had direct evidence of Federer facing the souped up non-anorexic version of Sinner in both the 2017 and 2018 AOs...

 

[SonnyT]

Sinner hasn't been in the cauldron of a great match yet.

 

[bnjkn]

Suffocating laughter, sorry. I saw Fed live at IW in 2017 playing his first three matches. There is no version of Sinner that is an "extremely high level" that gets close to 2017 to Federer. His serve, volley, FH, anticipation and experience are a 0 compared to old Roger.

It's not like Federer would routine this Sinner. The kid IS playing at an extremely high level (just lost to tiny though, who would also be a tough match against anyone).

Yes, 2017 Federer was superior, the hands and the shotmaking, the backhand, and the serve. It was all working great then. The IW version was especially unplayable.