AO 2018 Final - Roger Federer [1] vs Marin Cilic [6]

Who marches towards ultimate glory?

  • Federer in 3

    Votes: 65 33.3%
  • Federer in 4

    Votes: 69 35.4%
  • Federer in 5

    Votes: 27 13.8%
  • Cilic in 4

    Votes: 17 8.7%
  • Cilic in 5

    Votes: 8 4.1%
  • God Mode Cilic in 3

    Votes: 9 4.6%

  • Total voters
    195

Towser83

G.O.A.T.
If fed wins this as well as holding the record for Wimbledon mens singles titles, he will be tied for most AO titles and already tied for most USO titles.
 

movdqa

Talk Tennis Guru
Cilic in 4. I'd prefer Fed to win but Marin is playing great and Fed hasn't really been challenged.
 
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nikdom

Guest
Cilic in 4. I'd prefer Fed to win but Marin is playing great and Fed hasn't really been challenged.
Not many giving Cilic a chance. I think he has a good shot.

After all, they lace up for a reason. Otherwise matches would be decided on paper.
 

RF-18

Talk Tennis Guru
Out of the Last three slams these two will battle it out in the finals for the 2nd time. Who would of thought. But shows even more that Cilics USO win was no fluke.

Cilic had a real bummer at Wimbledon, but he had some injury problems during the match. If I remember correctly it was a blister problem that hindered his movement.

Cilic has shown in the past that he can rise to the occasion. When he played Murray in the Cincy final he was playing really well there aswell and beat him in straights. But this will be tougher.
 
Out of the Last three slams these two will battle it out in the finals for the 2nd time. Who would of thought. But shows even more that Cilics USO win was no fluke.

Cilic had a real bummer at Wimbledon, but he had some injury problems during the match. If I remember correctly it was a blister problem that hindered his movement.

Cilic has shown in the past that he can rise to the occasion. When he played Murray in the Cincy final he was playing really well there aswell and beat him in straights. But this will be tougher.
Federer is in great form! I see Fed taking it in straight sets! Cilic is playing great but not at Feds level!
 

Tennis_Hands

Bionic Poster
ahh okay i think i was misunderstanding the context here because some people here, well many were basically cricitizing/making fun of cilic for crying and making it sound like A) he only cried for a blister and B) well teh bigger issue of some people here thinkng a dude crying is something to criticize/make fun of you know all that related to "masculinity"
Am I the only one who sees the ultimate irony of people crying on a forum about a guy who cried?

I mean, they surely think of themselves as really really really (3) tough.

:cool:
 

RF-18

Talk Tennis Guru
Federer is in great form! I see Fed taking it in straight sets! Cilic is playing great but not at Feds level!
Federer is the clear favourite and you know what you will get from him. It's his 30th GS final so he will never crumble and play bad.

But Cilic has potential here. If he plays to his potential and be mentally tough, he can make a match out of this.
 
Federer is the clear favourite and you know what you will get from him. It's his 30th GS final so he will never crumble and play bad.

But Cilic has potential here. If he plays to his potential and be mentally tough, he can make a match out of this.
Agreed. If Cilic plays well it could go to three.
 

underground

G.O.A.T.
without GOATing fred in the final set, nad would have 1 more slam. nad was actually very clutch despite the loss (in the final set)
That was a year ago. Fed is firmly in Rafa's head now, look at how he just flipped the switch and tore him apart in IW and Shanghai. Even in Miami when Rafa just had the court speed, conditions, draw and schedule in his favour, Fed still won comfortable in 2.

One can say Rafa's game was tailor-made to beat prime Fed, 2017 Fed was tailor made to take down Rafa.
 

moonballs

Hall of Fame
Did you miss my point? Wimbledon and the AO are vastly different than the USO. The results between numerous matchups show that.

I’d be surprised if Cilic gets a set.
What’s the difference between the AO and USO? The 2014 surface USO was faster than it is now.
 

Ralph

Hall of Fame
I feel like I've heard that since he was 25 and yet here we are age 31 still playing, still a slam contender with 16 slams
True. But the goalposts have changed.

Here we are, 2018, and what's happened to the infamous top 4? Ironically, it was Rafa that many assumed wouldn't be able to play past the age of 30 due to his playing style. However, it is Murray and Djokovic who are at this point facing the biggest hurdles regarding their future; whether they can once reach their extremely high standards. I'm not saying these two players are done, but it isn't looking good for either right now.

Yes, Nadal has come back many a time from various injuries, yet here he was playing in a quarter final and winning it at one stage. What happens when his opponent starts to make him run around in true Nadal style? He tears a muscle. As somebody else pointed out recently, it seems to happen often that at the beginning of the year, he has a niggle here or there. Yes, he's survived much longer than anticipated, but the injuries aren't letting up. One could argue the opposite. Hence, I'd say there's truth to that. He's capable of changing his game to be more attacking, and less rabbit like, and I'd say he needs to if he wants to give himself a chance of a few more years of HIS immense high standard.

As for Federer? Forget his playing, the guy's sceduling and the way he knows his own body, is a talent in itself. I mean, he's 36 for Christ's sake....
 

mightyjeditribble

Hall of Fame
True. But the goalposts have changed.

Here we are, 2018, and what's happened to the infamous top 4? Ironically, it was Rafa that many assumed wouldn't be able to play past the age of 30 due to his playing style. However, it is Murray and Djokovic who are at this point facing the biggest hurdles regarding their future; whether they can once reach their extremely high standards. I'm not saying these two players are done, but it isn't looking good for either right now.

Yes, Nadal has come back many a time from various injuries, yet here he was playing in a quarter final and winning it at one stage. What happens when his opponent starts to make him run around in true Nadal style? He tears a muscle. As somebody else pointed out recently, it seems to happen often that at the beginning of the year, he has a niggle here or there. Yes, he's survived much longer than anticipated, but the injuries aren't letting up. One could argue the opposite. Hence, I'd say there's truth to that. He's capable of changing his game to be more attacking, and less rabbit like, and I'd say he needs to if he wants to give himself a chance of a few more years of HIS immense high standard.

As for Federer? Forget his playing, the guy's sceduling and the way he knows his own body, is a talent in itself. I mean, he's 36 for Christ's sake....
I agree. I think Nadal changed his game quite a bit to be more attacking to win 2008 Wimbledon, so he is capable of it. Is it something like Federer and the smaller racquet, in that Nadal is a bit stubborn / still winning enough with his "natural" style that he doesn't see the need to change things around? The question for his longevity is whether he will be willing and able to tweak it to cut down on the punishing rallies (on hard), stand in closer on the return, and shorten his matches.

I suppose he has another alternative to prolong his career: stop playing on HC altogether in a few years. He can amass enough points on the clay to have a respectable ranking, and he seems to have been made to play on the stuff. Still, even for him the long punishing rallies on clay may start to take their toll ...
 

Ralph

Hall of Fame
I agree. I think Nadal changed his game quite a bit to be more attacking to win 2008 Wimbledon, so he is capable of it. Is it something like Federer and the smaller racquet, in that Nadal is a bit stubborn / still winning enough with his "natural" style that he doesn't see the need to change things around? The question for his longevity is whether he will be willing and able to tweak it to cut down on the punishing rallies (on hard), stand in closer on the return, and shorten his matches.

I suppose he has another alternative to prolong his career: stop playing on HC altogether in a few years. He can amass enough points on the clay to have a respectable ranking, and he seems to have been made to play on the stuff. Still, even for him the long punishing rallies on clay may start to take their toll ...
Yep, I agree.

Federer took some stick for missing the clay season entirely, but look at what he's been capable of by having done so? He's about to go for number 20. He made sure he didn't even take temptation of pursuing the no.1 ranking at the end of last year. As I said earlier, he's clever.

I can't help but feel Nadal needs to do something similar in respect to the slams he's capable of winning aside from the French. Cut down schedule, concentrate on the USO also where he's had good luck. Literally at times.
 

Pagoo

G.O.A.T.
Crap.

That addled brained writer has gone and picked Federer to win. For years and years whenever he picked Federer he lost.

Now I’m officially worried.

http://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2018/01/australian-open-final-preview-roger-federer-vs-marin-cilic/71705/?utm_source=t.co&utm_medium=referral
Yeah, guy can't help himself. Couldn't wait until Saturday at least.

"The wild card in this match will be Cilic’s mentality. After the spectacle of his blister-inspired panic attack at Wimbledon, will he be more determined than usual to redeem himself with an impressive performance? Or will a respectable loss, with no sideline tears, be enough? One thing is certain: I’m not going to pick him to beat Federer in a Grand Slam final again." :rolleyes:
 
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Deleted member 742196

Guest
Yeah, guy can't help himself. Couldn't wait until Saturday at least.

"The wild card in this match will be Cilic’s mentality. After the spectacle of his blister-inspired panic attack at Wimbledon, will he be more determined than usual to redeem himself with an impressive performance? Or will a respectable loss, with no sideline tears, be enough? One thing is certain: I’m not going to pick him to beat Federer in a Grand Slam final again." :rolleyes:
I really hate Tignor’s fluff pieces. 2009 ~ 2015 was a surefire loss whenever he predicted Fed to win, which he did. Over and over again.

Now he’s back on the Fed express. Dark clouds ahead.
 

underground

G.O.A.T.
Not sure why everyone is underestimating Cilic. He'll be tough for Federer on hardcourt I believe. On grass, it's a different story with the lower bounce
Not underestimating. But I think Fed has enough in the tank to pull it through. 2014 USO was a combination of Fed out of gas and Cilic playing his best match of his life (quite literally, I don't think he'll ever reach those heights), don't forget not only did Fed play a 5 setter against Monfils beforehand, he also had a finals run at Toronto and won Cinci, so fatigue played a part there.
 

rushhr

Rookie
cilic in 4. when he's not injured or choking (i know, I know, a big if) the guy is hitting huge and deep on everything. he's gonna come to net more, to mixed, but net positive results.

he will also bounce the ball no less than 9,000 times over the course of the match. it helps him transfer his nervous energy into the serve!

enjoy the match, ya'lls!
 
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tennisaddict

Bionic Poster
Fed has to get the first set in . After that even if he loses the 2nd or 3rd, he can still finish the match without too much tension .

I expect 2 close sets max but really for Fed to lose , 2 things need to happen - Fed has to play bad and Cilic has to GOAT together . Chances of that are remote

I was more worried for the Berdych match than this one . Berdych knows the formula to beat Fed while Cilic I think will find it tough to close even if he takes first two sets
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
Will Cilic get his revenge for Wimbledon loss ?? What kind of shoes is Cilic wearing now ?????? Didn't that crappy shoe give him blisters and he couldn't move ?? like Chung, bad shoes can cost you majors................
 

rh310

Hall of Fame
Not many giving Cilic a chance. I think he has a good shot.

After all, they lace up for a reason. Otherwise matches would be decided on paper.
Yep, for both players it gets down to day-form. The right Cilic against the wrong Federer, and Fed gets the runner's up trophy.

They both know this.

Right Fed against wrong Cilic, and Fed in 3.
Right Fed against right Cilic, and Fed in 4.
Wrong Fed against right Cilic, and Cilic in 4.
Wrong Fed against wrong Cilic, and it's 5 sets but toss a coin on calling the winner.
 
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