AO 2019 - R4 : (3) "Zeus" Federer vs Tsitsipas "Apollo"

Who wins ?

  • Fed in 3

    Votes: 32 31.1%
  • Fed in 4

    Votes: 30 29.1%
  • Fed in 5

    Votes: 8 7.8%
  • Tsitsi in 3

    Votes: 4 3.9%
  • Tsitsi in 4

    Votes: 17 16.5%
  • Tsitsi in 5

    Votes: 12 11.7%

  • Total voters
    103
#4
The Hopman Cup was a very tight match with Roger stealing one TB and dominating the 2nd one. Tsitsi didn't get so much as a look on Fed's serve, while the Swiss had some BP's and half chances (not much, though).

I really like Stefanos' game, but I can't see him holding it together in a BO5 - and he is not straight-setting Rog. I know he is like 15+ years younger, but if this one goes the distance I'd still bet on Fed outlasting him. For some reason it looks like Tsitsipas is always breathing heavily and barely moving between points, when the match gets physical. It might be just his thing, but he looks winded quite often.

I'll go for a fairly routine 4 set max affair, although Rog's level varies so much he could even lose this match if his return is off.
 
#15
If Federer maintains the level he has been playing so far, I see him winning in straight sets with maybe one tight set. Anything less though and it could be tight and he could easily lose as this guy is good.
 
#21
I've gone with Fed in 4, following my head, but I have this feeling that Tsitsipas may win this. The guy is at a career-high of #15, has just won the NextGen finals and his 20 years young and hungry for more. He'll be desperately wanting to improve on his R4 showing at Wimbledon and reach his first GS QF.

In a way, Roger should not be the favourite going into this, at over 37 years of age. But somehow he still is, and he beat Tsitsipas at the Hopman Cup. This is their first "official" meeting though, and it could be a cracker.

I was thinking the other day that Fed might have to beat Tsitsipas, Cilic, Nadal and Djokovic in a row if he was to win the AO this year. That looks like quite the feat now; if Tsitsipas becomes a GS champion in the future, it might even look more crazy. Of course, it currently looks as though Cilic might not be there. And I wouldn't look past the Tsitsipas match anyway; as I said, I think it could be a real test.
 
#22
I've gone with Fed in 4, following my head, but I have this feeling that Tsitsipas may win this. The guy is at a career-high of #15, has just won the NextGen finals and his 20 years young and hungry for more. He'll be desperately wanting to improve on his R4 showing at Wimbledon and reach his first GS QF.

In a way, Roger should not be the favourite going into this, at over 37 years of age. But somehow he still is, and he beat Tsitsipas at the Hopman Cup. This is their first "official" meeting though, and it could be a cracker.

I was thinking the other day that Fed might have to beat Tsitsipas, Cilic, Nadal and Djokovic in a row if he was to win the AO this year. That looks like quite the feat now; if Tsitsipas becomes a GS champion in the future, it might even look more crazy. Of course, it currently looks as though Cilic might not be there. And I wouldn't look past the Tsitsipas match anyway; as I said, I think it could be a real test.
you are supposed to be my positivity person, smh what is this. have some hope
 
#30
you are supposed to be my positivity person, smh what is this. have some hope
But actually, right now I feel like I wouldn't mind so much if he loses to Tsitsipas, who looks as though he could actually be going places. Might be a Sampras 2001 moment.

But of course I might feel quite different when Fed has squandered some match points and is on the verge of losing ...

Oh wait, what was that - positivity, right. :p

Fed's got this, don't worry. :D
 

Red Rick

Talk Tennis Guru
#38
Tsitsi is largely just gonna chuckle while watching Fed's serves fly by. He's a bad returner himself and isn't gonna make any inroads on the Fed serve.

However, he has a good 1st delivery himself, and Fed's poor 2nd return might take care of the rest in ensuring the set scorelines look close.
 
#39
The guy is at a career-high of #15, has just won the NextGen finals
Let’s be reminded that Chung won the NextGen final in 2017 and that didn’t result in much for 2018. It’s not a sanctioned event and has no points.

As for the Fed-Tisitsipas match, it’s impossible to know anymore what version of Roger shows up. If Fed plays similarly as he did against Fritz (solid serving and low UE rate), he wins it in straights. Tsitsipas may be a future great player, but he’s not there yet.
 

Red Rick

Talk Tennis Guru
#41
Let’s be reminded that Chung won the NextGen final in 2017 and that didn’t result in much for 2018. It’s not a sanctioned event and has no points.

As for the Fed-Tisitsipas match, it’s impossible to know anymore what version of Roger shows up. If Fed plays similarly as he did against Fritz (solid serving and low UE rate), he wins it in straights. Tsitsipas may be a future great player, but he’s not there yet.
Can we please dub the #Nextgen final to be the one and only gram slam
 

abmk

Bionic Poster
#43
Tsitsi is largely just gonna chuckle while watching Fed's serves fly by. He's a bad returner himself and isn't gonna make any inroads on the Fed serve.

However, he has a good 1st delivery himself, and Fed's poor 2nd return might take care of the rest in ensuring the set scorelines look close.
yes, lets take 1 out of 4/5 matches where Federer gets a lower% of 2nd serve return points and call him a poor 2nd serve returner.
and ignore the times he destroyed the 2nd serve stats of your 2 favs, Roddick and Murray. :)
 
#46
Let’s be reminded that Chung won the NextGen final in 2017 and that didn’t result in much for 2018. It’s not a sanctioned event and has no points.

As for the Fed-Tisitsipas match, it’s impossible to know anymore what version of Roger shows up. If Fed plays similarly as he did against Fritz (solid serving and low UE rate), he wins it in straights. Tsitsipas may be a future great player, but he’s not there yet.
I haven't forgotten about Chung. But Chung did reach the AO SF last year, beating Djokovic, and he's been plagued by injuries, so I'm not sure the comparison is entirely fair. Tsitsipas has been edging closer to a breakthrough, and the NextGen finals can only have helped his confidence. Then again, he lost in Sydney QF to Seppi, so you're probably right ... I hope so!

Tsitsipas hasn't played on RLA, so that may also play in Roger's favour.
 
#48
I haven't forgotten about Chung. But Chung did reach the AO SF last year, beating Djokovic, and he's been plagued by injuries, so I'm not sure the comparison is entirely fair. Tsitsipas has been edging closer to a breakthrough, and the NextGen finals can only have helped his confidence. Then again, he lost in Sydney QF to Seppi, so you're probably right ... I hope so!

Tsitsipas hasn't played on RLA, so that may also play in Roger's favour.
Just some random thoughts from me... I think Chung regressed. I think he was better in AO18. He was fighting for everything then. To me, now he seems less tenacious, his serve hasn't improved, and he's not attacking the net as much (IMO a mistake, and I liked his willingness for netplay too). He almost looked resigned against Herbert in set4. C'mon Chung, didn't you say Djokovic was your idol and that you're copying him? So copy him and fight!
 

tudwell

Hall of Fame
#49
Will Fed have a third straight day match? Nadal-Berdych has the bigger faces, but maybe after the last two rounds they'll knock Nadal back to the afternoon.
 
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