AO 2024 QF - (3.) Jannik Sinner vs (5.) Andrey Rublev

Who will win this match?

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Kralingen said:
He can beat Djokovic in this form. I am not going to jinx or bed wet anymore. He can do it!
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He won't win a set vs Novak. He will choke on all the big points. You know this.
Also Novak has never lost after SF in AO. So in a way he has already won slam #25.
 
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NeutralFan said:
Sinner is winning in straight and ttw is crying over his level, as i said nobody can stop Sinner, he's in his prime playing peak tennis.
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I need to see him beat somebody of significance in a slam to validate a statement like this. We'll see if the Sinner hype is warranted soon enough.
 
Dominance ratio can be a useless stat


Today Rublev DR is 1.05 I think and he was never close to winning the match. Barely got close to win a set.


Sinner DR do not impress me at all.
 
Man. Only caught the third set here, but I feel this level from Sinner would demolish the level Novak brought in the first two sets against Fritz. Novak knows how to up his level when needed, though. I’m puuuumped for the semis.
 
Into the semis without dropping a set. Broken only once or twice the whole tournament. Clearly, yet another tournament that certifies the slow but constant growth of this incredible player.

But now he might lose to the greatest of all time, so everyone can go back to calling him a mug.
 
Baseline_Bungle said:
Into the semis without dropping a set. Broken only once or twice the whole tournament. Clearly, yet another tournament that certifies the slow but constant growth of this incredible player.

But now he might lose to the greatest of all time, so everyone can go back to calling him a mug.
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He's playing great but he's beating beatable opponents or, in other words, doing what he has to do. He's only reached a semi in a major so at some point he's going to have to win a big match to validate the hype. He's obviously not a mug but he's being coronated for things he hasn't done yet so it's fair that the expectation should be for him to break through in one of these slams.
 
nolefam_2024 said:
If he reached final beating Zverev and Medvedev

Both of whom are in top 6 in the world


What in the hell will be lucking out in the tournament?

Yes he had puffball draw till quarters but it's not easy now for anyone.
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I agree if he beats a performing Sasha and decent Hurkacz or Med then he deserves to be in final.

However, so far Sasha looks shadow of himself compared to pre-injury and i expect he will be exhaused by having had to battle so hard to even get to QF.
 
NYTennisfan said:
He's playing great but he's beating beatable opponents or, in other words, doing what he has to do. He's only reached a semi in a major so at some point he's going to have to win a big match to validate the hype. He's obviously not a mug but he's being coronated for things he hasn't done yet so it's fair that the expectation should be for him to break through in one of these slams.
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He's not responsible for the hype. In fact, he's one of the most modest top players you'll ever see, always saying stuff like "I'm still not at their level", "I have to keep improving" etc.
 
So Sinner, in one of the most awkward bits ever, is now claiming the stomach issue was just a gas/farting crisis.

Is it a PR move ahead of the semi, or do we have yet another random issue to add to the collection?
 
paolo2143 said:
I agree if he beats a performing Sasha and decent Hurkacz or Med then he deserves to be in final.

However, so far Sasha looks shadow of himself compared to pre-injury and i expect he will be exhaused by having had to battle so hard to even get to QF.
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But the. That'd their fault. They have such a high ranking. They are expected to win.
 
Baseline_Bungle said:
So Sinner, in one of the most awkward bits ever, is now claiming the stomach issue was just a gas/farting crisis.

Is it a PR move ahead of the semi, or do we have yet another random issue to add to the collection?
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TTW made a mountain of the molehill

Sinner did suck vs Zverev in USO but it wasn't just about his physical issues. Zverev has the game to beat Sinner.

Rublev just has to get very average sinner to have a chance now.
 
Based on form and evidence this Sinner should beat Djokovic unless Djokovic can bring his level up (he most certainly can). This could go 5 set dogfight most likely with the winner crippled to take on Raz. Me thinks massive advantage Raz!
 
Mxnh said:
No but in all seriousness name something Rublev does better than Sinner:
Forehand Sinner
Backhand Sinner
Slice Sinner
Touch Sinner
Volley Sinner
Serve Sinner
Return Sinner
Untraumatized by 0-9 GS QF matches Sinner

Rublev's game plan is hit hard and if that doesnt work hit harder
unfortunately Sinner can hit both harder and more accurately than rublev

Sinner in 3 unless it's like 35+ degrees out
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alright there seem to be some objections to the serve. Here are some stats:
  • SInner:
  • Aces 436
  • Double Faults 129
  • 1st Serve 60%
  • 1st Serve Points Won 76%
  • 2nd Serve Points Won 57%
  • Break Points Faced 368
  • Break Points Saved 69%
  • Service Games Played 901
  • Service Games Won 87%
  • Total Service Points Won 68%
Rublev:
  • Aces 616
  • Double Faults 156
  • 1st Serve 61%
  • 1st Serve Points Won 75%
  • 2nd Serve Points Won 51%
  • Break Points Faced 439
  • Break Points Saved 63%
  • Service Games Played 1038
  • Service Games Won 84%
  • Total Service Points Won 66%
Looking at this you can see a constant theme: Rublo's peak serve is better than Sinner's peak serve but sinner's selection and consistency is better than rublo's - rublev has mroe aces but also more DFs, more 1st serves in but less service games won, less service points won, less 2nd serve points won (and the 2nd serve of rublev just sucks, remember to take that into account), less BPs saved (hence serves less well under pressure), etc

so if you want to go peak for peak then rublev but average consistent performace I'd have to say sinner
 
Eurosport is showing Rublev and Sinner in the gym now going through all the post-match routine (bike, stretches, physio etc)

Rublev is rambling and cussing but still patiently doing all the exercises.

Most people don't realize what kind of incredible professionals these guys are...
 
tudwell said:
Man. Only caught the third set here, but I feel this level from Sinner would demolish the level Novak brought in the first two sets against Fritz. Novak knows how to up his level when needed, though. I’m puuuumped for the semis.
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Sinner best chance is to try get it won quickly. As he starts fast and Djoko can be slower out traps. However, the longer it goes the more it favours Djokovic. Once he finds his range and makes it more physical then that’s the worry for sinner. If it becomes a long battle then Djokovic likely wins with his experience, amazing mental strength and better fitness.

I can’t see it being a quick match though.
 
Baseline_Bungle said:
Eurosport is showing Rublev and Sinner in the gym now going through all the post-match routine (bike, stretches, physio etc)

Rublev is rambling and cussing but still patiently doing all the exercises.

Most people don't realize what kind of incredible professionals these guys are...
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Thank you for saying this… why I hate ppl calling these guys mugs etc. Arm chair jerks cussing professional players mostly coz they can’t stop their fave’s rival. Criticize the players game but have some respect. Rublev is going to go a week without peace after having blown another semi chance. He is trying the other guys are just better.
 
Baseline_Bungle said:
He's not responsible for the hype. In fact, he's one of the most modest top players you'll ever see, always saying stuff like "I'm still not at their level", "I have to keep improving" etc.
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I'm rooting for Sinner to do well but it's the over-exuberant Sinner fans around here that feel the need to crap on "tiny" "teeth" "the overhyped one" to prop up their guy that sours me on him a bit.

However, I think that just about everybody outside of Djokovic fans are hoping that he slays the beast. It would be great for the sport and do wonders for his confidence. The finals in Turin make me apprehensive though on what was a surface that you'd think would play into Sinner's strengths perfectly.
 
Djokovic_is_the_best#1 said:
Sinner best chance is to try get it won quickly. As he starts fast and Djoko can be slower out traps. However, the longer it goes the more it favours Djokovic. Once he finds his range and makes it more physical then that’s the worry for sinner. If it becomes a long battle then Djokovic likely wins with his experience, amazing mental strength and better fitness.

I can’t see it being a quick match though.
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Novak has better fitness but he’s also spent like 4 more hours on court than Sinner. Not sure a long physical affair would particularly favor Novak (I don’t know that it would disfavor him, since if it’s stretching long Novak’s playing well enough to hang with Sinner and has unbelievable mental strength and clutchness to get through those kinds of tight matches… but it wouldn’t necessarily be his fitness that favors him).

Definitely getting US Open 2021 vibes here with all the time Novak’s spent on court and then facing a strong, in-form semifinalist. Even if he gets through Sinner, he’s got another huge hurdle waiting in the final. Excited to see it all play out.
 
tudwell said:
Novak has better fitness but he’s also spent like 4 more hours on court than Sinner. Not sure a long physical affair would particularly favor Novak (I don’t know that it would disfavor him, since if it’s stretching long Novak’s playing well enough to hang with Sinner and has unbelievable mental strength and clutchness to get through those kinds of tight matches… but it wouldn’t necessarily be his fitness that favors him).

Definitely getting US Open 2021 vibes here with all the time Novak’s spent on court and then facing a strong, in-form semifinalist. Even if he gets through Sinner, he’s got another huge hurdle waiting in the final. Excited to see it all play out.
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Fair take.
 
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