AO court speed is absolutely ridiculous
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daggerman
Hall of Fame
As opposed to those pesky half-breeds.
Where I come from they call these djokosmashes
WildRevolver
Hall of Fame
This place is never happy with the surface of any event. Did you guys ever compete in sports? No field, arena or court is the same. You get there, you adapt your game and go. Best man wins.
Newballs
Professional
It was nice to see him make it through, wasn't sure how that one was gonna pan out...Stan hit right through Mad Lad. Gotta flatten out at 150 kph. Not for everyone, though
Omega_7000
Legend
Its absolutely pathetic. The tennis overlords obviously want a certain outcome to keep the dollars flowing and they will do anything to make it happen.
TearTheRoofOff
G.O.A.T.
I mean, in some circumstances who performs well can be an indicator. There are some clear patterns with the tournaments the top guys have performed well at/won.
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Deleted member 763691
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Kyrgios hits the ball flatter than Rafa, so you'd think Krygios would hit through this slow court.....but Rafa hit a lot more winners than Krygios
Nadal = 64 winners, 27 unforced errors
Kyrgios = 50 winners, 43 unforced errors
And Kyrgios still hit 25 aces, as the big servers love this surface, Raonic too.
Nadal = 64 winners, 27 unforced errors
Kyrgios = 50 winners, 43 unforced errors
And Kyrgios still hit 25 aces, as the big servers love this surface, Raonic too.
skaj
Legend
What about his grass slams?
Born_to_slice
Legend
Kyrgios wasn't flattening the ball much in this match. Mostly played ts fh and pushed with his bh.Kyrgios hits the ball flatter than Rafa, so you'd think Krygios would hit through this slow court.....but Rafa hit a lot more winners than Krygios
Nadal = 64 winners, 27 unforced errors
Kyrgios = 50 winners, 43 unforced errors
And Kyrgios still hit 25 aces, as the big servers love this surface, Raonic too.
Federer_pilon
Professional
Nadal the pusher somehow managed to hit 64 winners...
King No1e
G.O.A.T.
Djokosmash vs Breakpointerer. Who loses?
Breakpointerer
Legend
I win
King No1e
G.O.A.T.
Here's a scenario: Federer has break point on Djokovic's serve. Djokovic gets Federer on the defensive and prepares to hit a smash. Who wins the point?
GabeT
G.O.A.T.
Breakpointerer
Legend
Djokovic makes the smash but tumbles into the net, giving Federer the point.
King No1e
G.O.A.T.
40-15Is it a normal beak point or does Fed have a MP as well?
mxmx
Hall of Fame
Seems very slow to me. Noticed it with some of the Federer matches. Are the slower courts protecting older players, including Federer and Nadal? They may be tougher to beat on slower courts and due to their mental advantage over next genners. Younger players need to use their power and will lack consistency. So even though endurance is an issue for older players, slower courts may give them time to recover and play in the minds of the younger ones.
Put simply: it levels the playing field and buffers more powerful players, hence extending the chances of the big 3 which the tour so desperately need. Yes, in the past fast courts would suit Federer. But I think more recently slower courts is a new way for him to have an edge, as long as he too adapts his game to more topspin. To me it seems like he is hitting less flat power shots and far more loopy consistent strokes.
It will be harder for a next genner to outsmart Federer on a slower court. But outhit a old Federer on a fast court? Sure.
Put simply: it levels the playing field and buffers more powerful players, hence extending the chances of the big 3 which the tour so desperately need. Yes, in the past fast courts would suit Federer. But I think more recently slower courts is a new way for him to have an edge, as long as he too adapts his game to more topspin. To me it seems like he is hitting less flat power shots and far more loopy consistent strokes.
It will be harder for a next genner to outsmart Federer on a slower court. But outhit a old Federer on a fast court? Sure.
marc45
G.O.A.T.
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van_Loederen
Professional
in 2017 the AO sped up the tournament mostly changing the balls. Feder was sidelined at that time, he came back from a (supposed) knee surgery. I don't see the economic point in speeding the tourney up for him. noone could have imagined and in economy you don't take such chances.
in 2012 the AO was the slowest hardcourt GS tournament ever, mostly because of the weird fluffing balls.
if the AO are fast, they say Tiley is colluding with Feder, if the AO are slow, they say what you just said there.
already back in 2017 one would have assumed that if anything then slower conditions would be still most helpful to Feder.
while the USO were systematically slowed down since um 1998 or so, the AO wildly altered their court conditions.
add to it that SF scheduling.
only the Fedalovic fanbase inequality on this board is responsible for putting the AO over RG in polls.
terribleIVAN
Hall of Fame
Better for Rafa thus.
Are you saying its too fast? Before the event everyone was saying its faster than last year but the balls were fluffy.
droliver
Professional
maybe the unusually cool weather has affected this. This was the most temperate AO in decades so far although it's supposed to be 95-105 degrees later this week
Drob
Hall of Fame
So, little change for quarterfinals, faster courts for semifinals, then a slow court for the final.
Bobby Jr
G.O.A.T.
Some info on the courts on this new thread if anyone is interested. I would have put it here but thought it warranted a new thread.
