AO2009 QF - Federer vs Del Potro

Who wins

  • Federer in 3

    Votes: 69 38.1%

  • Federer in 4

    Votes: 60 33.1%

  • Federer in 5

    Votes: 12 6.6%

  • Del Potro in 3

    Votes: 6 3.3%

  • Del Potro in 4

    Votes: 24 13.3%

  • Del Potro in 5

    Votes: 10 5.5%
  • Total voters
    181
  • Poll closed .
i still believe fed can go on his 19th straight GS semis, but this one will be really tight. hope we'll have another us open kind of experience in melbourne:)
 
Let quest for an upset begin. I happen to like both players, one over the other: so I will abstain from the vote. However, I will hopefully see the match. :D
 
Del Potro just doesn't have it IMO. I don't see him winning anything big for awhile. As always, could be wrong, but...I say Federer creams him unless he comes out like he did today.
 
Federer in 3 unless he plays like he did today, then he'll win in 4. It's pretty unusual that he was playing solid for the first 3 rounds and then had a terrible game today. What are the odds of it happening twice in a row? :confused:
 
IvanAndreevich said:
In my opinion, Del Potro has to win in 3 or 4 sets. Anything else and Federer will take it. H2H seems to clearly favor Federer so far: http://www.atpworldtour.com/3/en/players/headtohead/?player1=del+potro&player2=federer In fact, Del Potro has lost all 7 sets so far, never taking one to a tiebreak.
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Everything you wrote is true, as far as I know.
Here are a few additional details:

* At Wimbledon 2007, Fed was #1 and Delpo was #56.

* At Basel 2007, Fed was #1 and Delpo was #44.

* At Madrid 2008 Delpo was in a time of not progressing to tournament finals because of his continuing toe injury, which (AFAIK) first occured during his match w/Ferrer at Tokyo 2008 and affected his loss to Tomas Berdych in the final.

* At Australia 2009, Fed is #2 and Delpo is #6.

I'm sensing a trend, so I gotta go w/Delpo, in spite of their past history.
 
Delpo is more dangerous than Berdych IMO, and we all know what happened in that match.

OTOH, Fed has time to think over his strategy. It was clear that he was getting bullied by Berdych the first two/three sets, he won't let that happen against Delpo.

I would still go with Fed.
 
Love Game said:
Everything you wrote is true, as far as I know.
Here are a few additional details:

* At Wimbledon 2007, Fed was #1 and Delpo was #56.

* At Basel 2007, Fed was #1 and Delpo was #44.

* At Madrid 2008 Delpo was in a time of not progressing to tournament finals because of his continuing toe injury, which (AFAIK) first occured during his match w/Ferrer at Tokyo 2008 and affected his loss to Tomas Berdych in the final.

* At Australia 2009, Fed is #2 and Delpo is #6.

I'm sensing a trend, so I gotta go w/Delpo, in spite of their past history.
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Yes, Del Potro has improved a lot. However, I think Federer is a bad matchup for him.
 
Del Potro in 4 is my vote. Simply don't think Fed is as good as before, but I may be wrong too. Fed has the experience when it goes to 5 and Del Potro may have to finish him before that.
 
Federer in 3, maybe 4 tough sets. Will be exciting, but Federer should win it. I think he'll be sharp from the start and Del Potro has trouble with the Federer slice-backhand. Hope it's a great match with a good Federer. Federer cares too much for his semifinal of grandslams record to let it slip easily. It IS one of the most amazing records in tennis imo.
 
Fed in 3 or 4. Fed isn't 2005-07 Fed, but is still capable of great stuff. I think the comeback over Berdych will motivate him and actually relax him.
 
Ambivalent said:
federer in three. I know delpotro is a great player but i'm feeling the short 3 setter.
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I watched last years Tokyo open where Berdych comfortably defeated Delpo and I watched both guys in this tournament and still think Berdych would defeat him again. I believe Roger will have an easier time defeating Delpo.
 
IvanAndreevich said:
Del Potro's defense is not amazing. His physical conditioning is suspect (he is young). The type of players that troubles Federer is Murray, Simon. All of these become even more severe considering this is best of 5.
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i'm honestly trying to learn something here, so please bear with me:

"defense is not amazing" ... i should know but i dont. which part of the game is considered defense? when the other player has the serve? because if that's what it is, delpo's first 3 matches haven't gone to 5, whereas fed's today did.

"physical conditioning" ... i also am not sure about this. he has a slender body type and of course fed is 7 years older. despite that, he took out the man who went to 15? 16? games in his 5th set (muller v. lopez), indicating excellent conditioning. by that i mean muller is in excellent condition yet delpo still took him out.
 
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gj011 said:
Del Potro in 3. He is not a choker like Berdych.
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TB had a hamstring issue, that could have been an issue.

matchmaker said:
Delpo is more dangerous than Berdych IMO, and we all know what happened in that match.

OTOH, Fed has time to think over his strategy. It was clear that he was getting bullied by Berdych the first two/three sets, he won't let that happen against Delpo.
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True he was bullied quite badly. I am a little too shaken today to go with Fed any further. A 5 setter in round 4 for Fed - holy crap :-(

I dont like how Fed refers to everyone as a dangerous player (Soderling iirc earlier).

Wlll be rooting for Fed anyway !
 
OddJack said:
I watched last years Tokyo open where Berdych comfortably defeated Delpo and I watched both guys in this tournament and still think Berdych would defeat him again. I believe Roger will have an easier time defeating Delpo.
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did you factor in the broken toenails delpo suffered in his match with ferrer? and then went through a 3 setter with gasquet? before he got to berdych? all with the same broken toenails he had to have surgicallly removed and had a negative effect on the entire remainder of delpo's 2008?
 
Del potro will take this one if roger keeps spraying that forehand like he did. Delpotro hits harder than Berdych and now serves Huge. Only thing is Juan will have to overcome his doubts and have enough confidence to take out one of the top players.
 
Fedace said:
Del potro will take this one if roger keeps spraying that forehand like he did. Delpotro hits harder than Berdych and now serves Huge. Only thing is Juan will have to overcome his doubts and have enough confidence to take out one of the top players.
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Delpo lost to Berd last time they played, so you have no point.
 
OddJack said:
Delpo lost to Berd last time they played, so you have no point.
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did you factor in the broken toenails delpo suffered in his match with ferrer? and then went through a 3 setter with gasquet? before he got to berdych? all with the same broken toenails he had to have surgicallly removed and had a negative effect on the entire remainder of delpo's 2008?
 
Fedace said:
Del potro will take this one if roger keeps spraying that forehand like he did. Delpotro hits harder than Berdych and now serves Huge. Only thing is Juan will have to overcome his doubts and have enough confidence to take out one of the top players.
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i didnt see all of fed's match, but i did see him shankalot. you may be right. there may be some self-doubt there, but this is the new #6 Delpo, and he had enough confidence to come back from down a set both to muller and cilic. they're not top players, but ... one match at a time.
 
Fed in 3: something like 5, 5, and 3. Today was the wake up call. I don't think Delpo can employ the strategy that Berdy used today to win the 1st two sets. He likes to work is way into points and doesn't hit that flat. Fed will be able to get his rhythm and dictate.

bluetrain4 said:
Fed in 3 or 4. ... the comeback over Berdych will motivate him and actually relax him.
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Agreed.

OddJack said:
I believe Roger will have an easier time defeating Delpo.
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Agreed - see above.

Love Game said:
"defense is not amazing" ... i should know but i dont. which part of the game is considered defense?
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Defense meaning when the other player is dictating the rally, running you around and you have to scramble to try to hit a shot that allows you to get back to neutral: Fed has his squash shot FH and slice BH; and his excellent movement of course.
 
Fedace said:
Del potro will take this one if roger keeps spraying that forehand like he did. Delpotro hits harder than Berdych and now serves Huge. Only thing is Juan will have to overcome his doubts and have enough confidence to take out one of the top players.
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I disagree. Delpo hits with more topspin but I'd say Berdych hits it harder (flatter that is).
 
I expect Federer's low slice to give Del Potro a lot of difficulty on the forehand side. Also Berdych gave Roger a good clinic on big-men tennis so Del Potro's power off the ground won't be difficult for Roger to find rhythm. RF in 4.
 
Love Game said:
i didnt see all of fed's match, but i did see him shankalot. you may be right. there may be some self-doubt there, but this is the new #6 Delpo, and he had enough confidence to come back from down a set both to muller and cilic. they're not top players, but ... one match at a time.
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Fed was just completely NOT THERE in that match against Berdych, and I think that his victory was much due to the fact that Berdych decided to find the 'way out' as well after he lost the 3rd set. Absolutely ****-poor performance from both.

If anything, I hope Fed has now concluded that IF he wants to take GS #14 (a really BIG 'if'), he'll have to stay awake most of all. If he does, in three. If not... congrats DelPo.
 
IvanAndreevich said:
In my opinion, Del Potro has to win in 3 or 4 sets. Anything else and Federer will take it. .
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hmm, i'm not sure. federer's 5 set match record is not very good (13-11 i think, especially for one of all time greats).

i'd say 5 set is only way to beat federer at slams (except on clay or when federer is subpar)
 
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Sentinel said:
True he was bullied quite badly. I am a little too shaken today to go with Fed any further. A 5 setter in round 4 for Fed - holy crap :-(

I dont like how Fed refers to everyone as a dangerous player (Soderling iirc earlier).

Will be rooting for Fed anyway !
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Don't be sad. He got through, that's the main thing.

Besides, he had a 5 setter against Andreev at USO and look where that took him.
 
Oui said:
Don't be sad. He got through, that's the main thing.

Besides, he had a 5 setter against Andreev at USO and look where that took him.
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Did he ? Holy Cow, i have no memory of that ! Must check up on that, i thought the last 5 setter (no final) was Tipsy. MAybe it happened at some ungodly hour my tiem, or was not shown where i am!

Anyway thanks for cheering me up with some facts. :-)
 
Sentinel said:
Did he ? Holy Cow, i have no memory of that ! Must check up on that, i thought the last 5 setter (no final) was Tipsy. MAybe it happened at some ungodly hour my tiem, or was not shown where i am!

Anyway thanks for cheering me up with some facts. :-)
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You don't remember this? :o

You playing with my mind again Sent? Are you??

Well at least you're chirpier now. I don't like to see a gloomy Fedfan :p Esp when Roger's just won the last match!


Coincidently it was the 4th round of USO: 6-7(5) 7-6(5) 6-3 3-6 6-3
 
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