AP: Federer signs deal with Babolat/Reebok effective 10-05

Phil

Hall of Fame
Yeah, I too lose sleep every time I think of what equipment Roger Federer may one day endorse...also, you're a week too early...
 

Shaolin

G.O.A.T.
If I did it on the 1st it would be too obvious I was joking. Im sure he'll be w/Wilson forever like Pete. I dont think he would take chances with his game even for tons of money.
 

NoBadMojo

G.O.A.T.
something seems very odd about a visual of federer playing something like an aeropro +..i think it's given me a headache and i must lie down..oh and put a reebok trucker hat on the roger and some FigJams or Pumps? hows that for a visual? ack......
 

BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
On the same day, Roddick finally does indeed sign with Nike, and just for fun, he also signs on with Wilson to use the nSix-One Tour.

So who would win their next match? Roddick wearing Nike Vapors and clothes with headband and using a nSix-One Tour 90 and Federer wearing Reebok Pumps and clothes with trucker cap and using a Pure Drive. Hmmmmm.......I wonder........
 

35ft6

Legend
Hewitt would look kick ass in Adidas. Nike makes some of the most boring clothes out there. Pay some brown people to make cheap clothes, put a Swoosh on it, sell it for ridiculously high prices. Seriously, their stuff is some of the wackest stuff out there. They haven't made a stand out shirt in a long time.
 

Tenny

Professional
OK,

Federer + in a trucker cap, with a PD, John MacEnroe's attitude, Boris Boom Boom's craziness (I miss his diving volleys), Agassi's current hairstyle, Moya's tatoos, I wanna see this (but that will be a monster) in april.
 

sebastiaN911

New User
"Pay some brown people to make cheap clothes,"

waht he says could be true,
chek ur shoe label, does it say MADE in CHINA or MADE in INDIA, it probably does. why would companys pay white americans several dollars an hour when they can pay poor asians couple of cents an hour
 
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pacman

Guest
what a shame to the thread itself ..

35ft6 said:
Pay some brown people to make cheap clothes, put a Swoosh on it, sell it for ridiculously high prices.
This is nasty. Ridiculous statement....
 

USCfan

Professional
sebastiaN911 said:
"Pay some brown people to make cheap clothes,"

waht he says could be true,
chek ur shoe label, does it say MADE in CHINA or MADE in INDIA, it probably does. why would companys pay white americans several dollars an hour when they can pay poor asians couple of cents an hour

I cannot stand ignorant, racist remarks like these. They really show a lack of education, I think.
 

bc-05

Semi-Pro
sebastiaN911 said:
"Pay some brown people to make cheap clothes,"

waht he says could be true,
chek ur shoe label, does it say MADE in CHINA or MADE in INDIA, it probably does. why would companys pay white americans several dollars an hour when they can pay poor asians couple of cents an hour
ur ****in annoying u know that.. ohh wait.. i hope u one day get killed by an asian while ur saying this ******** and when this happens i hope no one even cares about ur death and no one will attend ur funeral plus ull rot in hell.. oh wait? u think thats harsh? think about what u said!
 

fedex27

Professional
"Pay some brown people to make cheap clothes,"

are you stupid? do you think your funny?

also i was hoping that the switch was true, i was imaging the pj
 

kooyah

Rookie
I don't get it - is this supposed to be funny? I mean, are people here such babies that they care if Federer endorses the same clothing and racquet brands as Roddick?
 

Brian Purdie

Semi-Pro
I work with a ton of Indian & Pakistani people and to give 35ft6 the benefit of a doubt, a lot of Indians (people from India) joke among themselves all the time about "the brown man". I was a little surprised by it myself the first time i heard them use it back and forth, but it's a common reference within the culture.
 

35ft6

Legend
Brian Purdie said:
I work with a ton of Indian & Pakistani people and to give 35ft6 the benefit of a doubt, a lot of Indians (people from India) joke among themselves all the time about "the brown man". I was a little surprised by it myself the first time i heard them use it back and forth, but it's a common reference within the culture.
Yeah, I'm a brown person. My comment was meant to be harsh on Nike, not a slur against people like myself. But one should never underestimated the touchiness of people on a message board.
 

Noelle

Hall Of Fame
Teeheehee, we try to be as politically correct as possible. :)

"Brown person" here, and I didn't take any offense, actually. I knew what point you were trying to make about Nike's factory labor policies.
 

35ft6

Legend
raftermania said:
It's not the "touchiness of people on a message board" but your lack of respect for people on message boards.
Really? This forum has a lot of flame wars going on, and to my knowledge I haven't disrespected anybody. Oh well.

The new Federer shirt is at least a bit distinct, but still not great. I still love that McEnroe shirt from the late 80's. Maybe I'll dig up a picture of it later. That was their last true great shirt design IMO.
 

Brian Purdie

Semi-Pro
35ft6 said:
I still love that McEnroe shirt from the late 80's. Maybe I'll dig up a picture of it later. That was their last true great shirt design IMO.
Which one (a description)? I am a huge 80's Nike tennis clothing fan!
 

raftermania

Banned
35ft6 said:
Really? This forum has a lot of flame wars going on, and to my knowledge I haven't disrespected anybody. Oh well.
lol, do you lack short term memory? if so just read the last ten or so posts and see for yourself!
 

35ft6

Legend
raftermania said:
lol, do you lack short term memory? if so just read the last ten or so posts and see for yourself!
Yeah, I must, because I don't see how that could have offended anybody. If you are "brown" and offended, let me know. I'm Asian and very very brown, so I guess I'll be able to empathize. I'm not sure what was so offensive about it. I thought everybody knew that Nike's business practices are somewhat questionable.
Brian Purdie said:
Which one (a description)? I am a huge 80's Nike tennis clothing fan!
This one. http://www.revolutionarytennis.com/giff/volley/mcenroe.gif And I think he had matching shoes. It came in gray and white. EDIT: Actually, the white one was better. The white shirt had a lot of green in the stripe thing across the chest. It may not look that great now but I was coveting this shirt like mad when I was a kid. I also loved the old Lendl and Edberg shirts by Adidas. Home Movies is rad btw. I Tivo it every week although I prefer the ones with squiggly lines.
 

Phil

Hall of Fame
35ft6 said:
Yeah, I must, because I don't see how that could have offended anybody. If you are "brown" and offended, let me know. I'm Asian and very very brown, so I guess I'll be able to empathize. I'm not sure what was so offensive about it. I thought everybody knew that Nike's business practices are somewhat questionable.
What is questionable about Nike's business practices? And why would Nike be any different from Reebok, Adidas, Puma, etc. They ALL use factories in Asia (and Latin America) to produce for them. There is nothing illegal about this, and the governments and peoples of the countries in which they have their products made, are not screaming about it. Why do you think that is?

Companies go where the cheap labor is, and those countries with the cheap labor WELCOME manufacturers, who provide jobs, investment and revenue. It's not as simple as you make it sound. You need to look at the whole picture before you pass your ill-informed judgements.

The US was once a source of cheap labor for the UK and the rest of W. Europe. Some people cried "exploitation" then, and there WAS exploitation, but this is what built the country into a capitalist giant. Same thing is happening in Malaysia and China, and the same HAPPENED in Japan, Hong Kong, Korea and Singapore-how do you think THOSE countries turned into "Tigers"? If you're Asian, as you say, maybe this is something you should know about.
 

35ft6

Legend
Phil said:
What is questionable about Nike's business practices?
1st Promise: All Nike shoe factories will meet the U.S. Occupational Safety and Health Administration's (OSHA) standards in indoor air quality.

Nike was the subject of considerable scandal in 1997 when it was revealed that workers in one of its contract factories were being exposed to toxic fumes at up to 177 times the Vietnamese legal limit. Although Nike claims that its factories now meet OSHA standards, it gives factory managers advance notice of testing, giving them considerable scope to change chemical use to minimize emissions on the day the test is conducted. Nike is also not yet willing to regularly make the results of those tests available to the interested public. Rights groups have challenged Nike to put in place a transparent system of monitoring factory safety standards involving unannounced monitoring visits by trained industrial hygienists.

2nd Promise: The minimum age for Nike factory workers will be raised to 18 for footwear factories and 16 for apparel factories.

Nike was severely embarrassed on the child labor issue in 1996 when a major story in Life magazine featured a photograph of a very young Pakistani boy sewing a Nike soccer ball. Evidence continues to emerge of young persons under the age of 16 employed in Nike contract factories. In the absence of economic development in their communities, however, excluding children from factories may force them into even more dangerous and degrading work. Global Exchange believes that payment of a living wage to adult workers would be by far the most effective means of benefiting children in areas in which Nike's goods are made.

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1st Demand: Protect workers who speak honestly about factory conditions.

Nike's track record in protecting workers who blow the whistle on sweatshop conditions is very poor. The company has turned its back on individual workers who have been victimized for speaking to journalists, and has cut and run from other factories after labor abuses have been publicized. Until this changes, Nike workers will have good reason to keep silent about factory conditions for fear that speaking honestly may result in them and their fellow workers losing their jobs.

3rd Demand: Decent Wages


Nike has rejected demands that it ensures that Nike workers are paid a living wage--that is, a full time wage that would provide a small family with an adequate diet and housing and other basic necessities. Instead, the company has used statistics selectively and in a misleading fashion to give the false impression that wages currently paid to Nike workers are fair and adequate. Meanwhile those workers struggle to survive on wages that are barely enough to cover their individual needs, let alone those of their children.

4th Demand: Reasonable Working Hours

Independent research indicates that in many factories Nike workers are still being coerced into working up to 70 hours per week and are being humiliated in front of other workers or threatened with dismissal if they refuse. Nike workers also frequently report that it is extremely difficult to obtain sick leave and that the annual leave to which they are legally entitled is often refused, reduced or replaced with cash without the worker having any choice in the matter.
Full report here.
And why would Nike be any different from Reebok, Adidas, Puma, etc. They ALL use factories in Asia (and Latin America) to produce for them.
Two, three, four wrongs don't make a right.
Companies go where the cheap labor is, and those countries with the cheap labor WELCOME manufacturers, who provide jobs, investment and revenue. It's not as simple as you make it sound. You need to look at the whole picture before you pass your ill-informed judgements.
You make a fair point considering our imperfect world but the idealist in me says if it's not good enough for me, why should it be good enough for them. Worker's rights evolved in the USA for a reason and I don't see why what we consider to be reasonable and humane for American workers shouldn't be considered to be such for non-Americans. I'm sure Nike has the money to improve wages and working conditions, but that's not exactly how corporations function. It's more profitable for them to pay lobbyists to convince lawmakers to keep laws in place to keep conditions that are most favorable to their bottom line. I'm not a big believer in the notion of a benevolent free market assuring that what's best will eventually come to be. I think people have to band together and exert the right pressure in order to ensure that proper changes are made. If you leave businesses and corrupt 3rd world governments to their own devices, things will always suck for the workers.
If you're Asian, as you say, maybe this is something you should know about.
I'm no expert, yeah. Part of my ire with Nike in particular is that their clothes are so plain. If I were a staff writer at The Simpsons, I would write a scene where you see the inner workings of a Nike factory... they buy plain T-shirts and shorts at Hanes, bring them into the factory, sew a swoosh on it, and jack up the price 1500%.

Whatever. Back to discussing tennis.
 

Power Game

Professional
I'm asian, your comment was not all that offensive but it was tasteless and inappropriate. Perhaps a quick apology, then we can look past it...
 
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