Apdc Real Or Fake

kobe3pointer

kobe3pointer

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item # 180294824204
on 3bay

looks super fake to me, but im just posting this to ask if they created a new apdc with a apd paintjob that looks nothing like the "old apd".. lmao

 
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KiwiNuker

KiwiNuker

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I don't like the APDs which have those tags saying it was verified blah blah blah by babolat to sell in china or whatnot. All those i just count as fakes...
 
FedererForehand

FedererForehand

Banned
Any Babolat frames that have tags attached to them are FAKE! Stay f-a-r away from them! Thats the Worst counterfeit I have ever seen!
 
phucng_10

phucng_10

Professional
Where's the CORTEX system?!

I would laugh at the person who buys it without searching for his/her information first.
 
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Voltron

Voltron

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Wait, is that part of a cortex paint job on the black background of the old APD? That's possibly the worst fake I've ever seen.
 
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Hueco514

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samster said:
Check out another item from the same seller:

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Dude, but look at the throat. Look at the picture he has of Nadal using the same racquet, it's not even aero dynamic. It's flat. Like a Pure Storm Tour, or any other usual racquet. It looks really, really fishy.

The item from the original poster's post...well, that looks fake also. We're talking about the APD right? Cortex or not, the throat should not look like any ordinary racquet, we know that. It's much wider, and aerodynamic.
 
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babolat41

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Its looks like a Babolat to me just not the right paint. Why don't you ask the seller some of the questions you have??? He has a pretty uh, perfect track record so Im sure he would deal with you and answer your doubts. And if its is fake why would anyone care??? Im mean, would you ever buy a racquet with out hitting that exact same kind?? Im assumming you have never seen this exact racquet before otherwise why would you think something was fishy. So why would you want it? Based on my experience with 3b ay. The do a outstanding job on authenticity. People from babolat are constantly checking the site to red flag sellers. With that being said most often the pictures would be of a authentic, then they send you a fugazzi and you might not notice it until you have it restrung. What Im saying is that if its a racquet Babolat has never seen before or can clearly identify that it is not there product, the auction would be terminated before the sale, and the highest bidder is notified that the auction was ended early because the authenticty could not be identified!
 
Voltron

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babolat41 said:
Its looks like a Babolat to me just not the right paint. Why don't you ask the seller some of the questions you have??? He has a pretty uh, perfect track record so Im sure he would deal with you and answer your doubts. And if its is fake why would anyone care??? Im mean, would you ever buy a racquet with out hitting that exact same kind?? Im assumming you have never seen this exact racquet before otherwise why would you think something was fishy. So why would you want it? Based on my experience with 3b ay. The do a outstanding job on authenticity. People from babolat are constantly checking the site to red flag sellers. With that being said most often the pictures would be of a authentic, then they send you a fugazzi and you might not notice it until you have it restrung. What Im saying is that if its a racquet Babolat has never seen before or can clearly identify that it is not there product, the auction would be terminated before the sale, and the highest bidder is notified that the auction was ended early because the authenticty could not be identified!
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YOU FAIL

YOUR SKILL IS NOT ENOUGH
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Voltron

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babolat41 said:
HAY GUISE IM REALLY AWSUM AT FAILING!!111!!11ONEONEONE
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Shall I repost the bit about you failing? E-Bay is notorious for having fake frames posted and sold, in fact, if you just used the search function, you'd find a few accounts of these transactions.
 
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babolat41

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Voltron said:
Shall I repost the bit about you failing? E-Bay is notorious for having fake frames posted and sold, in fact, if you just used the search function, you'd find a few accounts of these transactions.
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Read what I said the first time guy.... Babolat combs throught all the merchandise being sold with their name on. If they can't identify it, it is REPORTED.... That doesnt include you being a shipped a fake a frame, like I said the first time.
 
Voltron

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babolat41 said:
Read what I said the first time guy.... Babolat combs throught all the merchandise being sold with their name on. If they can't identify it, it is REPORTED.... That doesnt include you being a shipped a fake a frame, like I said the first time.
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Read what I said buddy, there are several accounts of fake babolats being sold on El-Bay. Maybe you should start using the search function before you shoot your mouth off.
 
phucng_10

phucng_10

Professional
Voltron said:
Read what I said buddy, there are several accounts of fake babolats being sold on El-Bay. Maybe you should start using the search function before you shoot your mouth off.
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I'll agree with Voltron. There was a thread comparing a real and a fake APDC. One was Head Heavy (the fake one), one was Head Light (the real one). You also do know that E-Bay and those Sporting good stores (Sport Chalet, Sports Authority, etc) sell phony racquets as well. Also, I don't think manufacturers comb through all purchases because E-Bay is like Craigslists. These items are sold by owners that aren't affiliated with the company whatsoever.

So if you want to find out if the racquet is real or fake, call in to the company, tell them to barcode and verify if the racquet is authentic or not.

Found one of many threads, but couldn't find the APDC comparison.
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=201862

This link is a comparison between the real and fake Wilson K Factor KSix-One Tour 90.
 
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babolat41

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Voltron said:
Read what I said buddy, there are several accounts of fake babolats being sold on El-Bay. Maybe you should start using the search function before you shoot your mouth off.
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Are you ********?? Obviously there is a such thing as a counterfeit racquet its a 650 billion dollar industry. Obviously there are people that do it. If you buy from 3 bay your taking that risk. The do have policys on this AND babolat is watching, so if its obviously a fake it will be REPORTED> If you use the site buy from people that have sold racquets with good feedback. Its pretty simple.
 
phucng_10

phucng_10

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babolat41 said:
Read my first post!
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Let me tell you what you should read.

"Last month a US court correctly pointed out that **** was not liable for counterfeit products showing up on the auction site. That doesn't mean that it's legal to sell counterfeit products, just that **** isn't liable for the counterfeits showing up there."
Source.

And what are you saying here?
babolat41 said:
"What Im saying is that if its a racquet Babolat has never seen before or can clearly identify that it is not there product, the auction would be terminated before the sale, and the highest bidder is notified that the auction was ended early because the authenticty could not be identified!"
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Even the main manufacturers doesn't know if their product that is being sold on these sites authentic or not, so how do you expect e-Bay to know? e-Bay is a site for people to set up auctions for other people to buy, until the person that buys the product, finds out it's fake, they report it and gets refunded for their counterfeit product.
 
Rorsach

Rorsach

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Only one thing to do with listings such as this, and that's to report it.
If you're interested in one of the more decent fakes, just ask the seller if it's authentic. Most of the time they will tell you that it's a clone. When they don't, buy the item and report it fake after you've received it (If it really is a fake) and claim back your cash.
 
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babolat41

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Rorsach said:
Only one thing to do with listings such as this, and that's to report it.
If you're interested in one of the more decent fakes, just ask the seller if it's authentic. Most of the time they will tell you that it's a clone. When they don't, buy the item and report it fake after you've received it (If it really is a fake) and claim back your cash.
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Well said!!!! All I said was that Babolat is watching if you sell something with the Babolat name. And they are reporting it too. If they fool you from the pictures they fool the manufactures too. Then all these guys think that I said people have never been duped on ****. C'mon.......
 
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Hueco514

Rookie
No matter how you look at it, even if you actually like hitting with it, it is fake. Look at the real APDC, even the original APD. The one from the OP's picture is fake.

Look at the throat, the way the beam is designed. It's not the right one.
 
Voltron

Voltron

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babolat41 said:
Its looks like a Babolat to me just not the right paint. Why don't you ask the seller some of the questions you have??? He has a pretty uh, perfect track record so Im sure he would deal with you and answer your doubts. And if its is fake why would anyone care??? Im mean, would you ever buy a racquet with out hitting that exact same kind?? Im assumming you have never seen this exact racquet before otherwise why would you think something was fishy. So why would you want it? Based on my experience with 3b ay. The do a outstanding job on authenticity. People from babolat are constantly checking the site to red flag sellers. With that being said most often the pictures would be of a authentic, then they send you a fugazzi and you might not notice it until you have it restrung. What Im saying is that if its a racquet Babolat has never seen before or can clearly identify that it is not there product, the auction would be terminated before the sale, and the highest bidder is notified that the auction was ended early because the authenticty could not be identified!
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babolat41 said:
Read what I said the first time guy.... Babolat combs throught all the merchandise being sold with their name on. If they can't identify it, it is REPORTED.... That doesnt include you being a shipped a fake a frame, like I said the first time.
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babolat41 said:
Are you ********?? Obviously there is a such thing as a counterfeit racquet its a 650 billion dollar industry. Obviously there are people that do it. If you buy from 3 bay your taking that risk. The do have policys on this AND babolat is watching, so if its obviously a fake it will be REPORTED> If you use the site buy from people that have sold racquets with good feedback. Its pretty simple.
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650 billion dollar industry? Oh really... :lol:

Woah, you just said in your first post that it would be caught by Babolat and that it would be taken down before the auction ended. Isn't that different from what you said later on in our discussion? You know what, here's exactly what you said after we'd talked for a bit, sudden change of tune eh?

babolat41 said:
Well said!!!! All I said was that Babolat is watching if you sell something with the Babolat name. And they are reporting it too. If they fool you from the pictures they fool the manufactures too. Then all these guys think that I said people have never been duped on ****. C'mon.......
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Also, if I'm buying from El Bay, you claim that I'm taking my chances, despite assuring my that Babolat is watching, people from Babolat are constantly checking the site to red flag sellers, and that I will be protected by "policys". But I'm sure you meant "policies" on that last one.


Like I said, check your facts before you shoot your mouth off.
 
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babolat41

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Here is a fact KID. Go to the store and buy a Babolat racquet if you want one. Another fact KID, not smart to bid on something that doesn't have a return policy. One last fact KID, Pay Pal gives returns on products received not as described..... Your posting on tennis merchandise store, why are you looking on **** for racquets.. My op also said imo 3 bay is good with authenticity which they are......
 
phucng_10

phucng_10

Professional
babolat41 said:
Here is a fact KID. Go to the store and buy a Babolat racquet if you want one. Another fact KID, not smart to bid on something that doesn't have a return policy. One last fact KID, Pay Pal gives returns on products received not as described..... Your posting on tennis merchandise store, why are you looking on **** for racquets.. My op also said imo 3 bay is good with authenticity which they are......
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First of all, stop saying the word "fact" and capitalizing "KID". You're just making a fool out of yourself doing so. Secondly, who told you that nobody looks to see if there's a return policy or not before they bid on something? PayPal only gives returns on products to an extent. That extent is limited to $200.

PayPal said:
Every item on **** (except Live Auctions and vehicles) that meets the above requirements is eligible for PayPal Buyer Protection up to $200.00 USD (Basic Tier Coverage Amount)
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That's only the Basic Tier Coverage Amount assuming that the item the winner bids on is under $200. Otherwise, PayPal will not cover for your lost if you buy that item.

Even if you're posting on a Tennis Merchandise forum, who knows if people will like the price on here or not? Maybe there are people who likes to buy things cheap, so they head onto e-Bay to buy it thinking that it's the authentic stuff (which is not) so you pretty much just take the risk when you're buying a brand name item on e-Bay. As I have said in my other posts, e-Bay does not know if the item is authentic or not. You're taking your risk to buy the product that is set up as an auction on there. The trust of the seller is all within their feedback.

Same goes with those sporting good stores. Read this thread and you'll see http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=213040. Sporting good stores also sell knock off frames with almost to exact details.

All I'm saying is that, wherever you buy it, (that's not a Tennis Store), you're taking your risk to buying your tennis gear. The only place to trust for brand named products would be a tennis club or a certified tennis store.

And if you're going to reply to my post, don't tell me to read your earlier posts. Because I've read it over and over before I reply it with some thought.
 
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babolat41

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phucng_10 said:
First of all, stop saying the word "fact" and capitalizing "KID". You're just making a fool out of yourself doing so. Secondly, who told you that nobody looks to see if there's a return policy or not before they bid on something? PayPal only gives returns on products to an extent. That extent is limited to $200.



That's only the Basic Tier Coverage Amount assuming that the item the winner bids on is under $200. Otherwise, PayPal will not cover for your lost if you buy that item.

Even if you're posting on a Tennis Merchandise forum, who knows if people will like the price on here or not? Maybe there are people who likes to buy things cheap, so they head onto e-Bay to buy it thinking that it's the authentic stuff (which is not) so you pretty much just take the risk when you're buying a brand name item on e-Bay. As I have said in my other posts, e-Bay does not know if the item is authentic or not. You're taking your risk to buy the product that is set up as an auction on there. The trust of the seller is all within their feedback.

Same goes with those sporting good stores. Read this thread and you'll see http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=213040. Sporting good stores also sell knock off frames with almost to exact details.

All I'm saying is that, wherever you buy it, (that's not a Tennis Store), you're taking your risk to buying your tennis gear. The only place to trust for brand named products would be a tennis club or a certified tennis store.

And if you're going to reply to my post, don't tell me to read your earlier posts. Because I've read it over and over before I reply it with some thought.
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I know the policies.....
Weird, I wouldn't call 200$ a cheap racquet? This is my last post on this matter. Its pointless to state opinions, facts, statements with people that just use search engines and talk like they have been through sircumstances reguarding online purchasing.
 
USAF - 1

USAF - 1

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babolat41 said:
I know the policies.....
Weird, I wouldn't call 200$ a cheap racquet? This is my last post on this matter. Its pointless to state opinions, facts, statements with people that just use search engines and talk like they have been through sircumstances reguarding online purchasing.
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Dude- I just bought two fake APDCs on 3bay that were supposed to be real. One was a class AAA fake, the other was maybe an A. In any event, they were not "caught" by babolat. And in fact, searching through 3bay right now, I can tell from my own personal experience that many of these APDCs are highly suspect now that I know what to look for.

Take item number 360093390833 which is supposed to be a APDC. Its an obvious fake. First, the APDC doesn't come with those stupid hanging tags. Second, the grip pictured is like a grey color. The APDC comes with white babolat syntec grip, they don't even make grey. The "woofer" text is crooked in each picture, and the black side "woofer" is especially crooked. The bag it comes with is not even remotely correct. I would tag that as 100% fake. Where is Babolat removing these items? No one can police it.
 
Voltron

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USAF - 1 said:
Dude- I just bought two fake APDCs on 3bay that were supposed to be real. One was a class AAA fake, the other was maybe an A. In any event, they were not "caught" by babolat. And in fact, searching through 3bay right now, I can tell from my own personal experience that many of these APDCs are highly suspect now that I know what to look for.

Take item number 360093390833 which is supposed to be a APDC. Its an obvious fake. First, the APDC doesn't come with those stupid hanging tags. Second, the grip pictured is like a grey color. The APDC comes with white babolat syntec grip, they don't even make grey. The "woofer" text is crooked in each picture, and the black side "woofer" is especially crooked. The bag it comes with is not even remotely correct. I would tag that as 100% fake. Where is Babolat removing these items? No one can police it.
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USAF, thanks for weighing in on this topic, and also, did paypal get you the money back?

Here is a fact KID. Go to the store and buy a Babolat racquet if you want one. Another fact KID, not smart to bid on something that doesn't have a return policy. One last fact KID, Pay Pal gives returns on products received not as described..... Your posting on tennis merchandise store, why are you looking on **** for racquets.. My op also said imo 3 bay is good with authenticity which they are......
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First of all, stop calling me "kid" GUY. You never said it was your opinion BUDDY, you stated it as fact. By the way, everything marked in bold is a lie. Paypal doesn't always give your money back, just ask my coach.
 
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mawashi

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Volt,

Relax my friend, this thread isn't worth getting worked up for. Sometimes they have to learn the hard way.

Cheers,

mawashi
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USAF - 1

USAF - 1

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Voltron said:
USAF, thanks for weighing in on this topic, and also, did paypal get you the money back?

I did get all of it back, but am out the stringing costs.

If Babolat41 is so certain that nothing on 3bay could possibly be fake, he should bid on those racquets I identified. Probably wouldnt survive stringing. Either he is very naive or sells fake racquets on the bay.
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Voltron

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USAF - 1 said:
Voltron said:
USAF, thanks for weighing in on this topic, and also, did paypal get you the money back?

I did get all of it back, but am out the stringing costs.

If Babolat41 is so certain that nothing on 3bay could possibly be fake, he should bid on those racquets I identified. Probably wouldnt survive stringing. Either he is very naive or sells fake racquets on the bay.
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Yeah, he is extremely naive.
phucng_10 said:
We should just let this thread die out Volt.
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Roger that, I'm out.
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