Are there tennis players who are as big or buff as football players?

[adlis]

Michael Berrer perhaps
that big heavy build isn't suited for tennis though...just look at Dent

Michael Berrer Height: 6'3'' (190 cm) 220 lbs (99 kg).

dude needs to lose the weight. hauling 220 lbs with a 6'3 frame on a tennis court must be hard work!
for comparison Juan Martin Del Potro is 6'6 and 172lb!

 

[Morrissey]

If you want to compare 300 + lbs linebackers with bellies that flop over their pants, you're looking at the wrong sport. Maybe comparing soccer players is more accurate. Even Nadal is very slim, but he has definition in his arms. But he's not buffed or anything like that. Not like a football player. They are jacked up and they build up much more muscle mass, outside linemen.

 

[Morrissey]

It wouldn't be a contest at all, the speed at which tennis players change directions(on a tiny tennis court, where anticipation is more important than speed) is a joke compared to what NFL players can do. NFL receivers can change directions on a dime, this isn't track & field or something, its not played on a straight line. Time any receiver moving sideways, backwards, walking on their hands, whatever & comparing it to how Nadal does the same sort of things would be sort of sad.

It's odd that some here seem to think football is a sport just about brute power or speed, it requires a lot more than that, it requires agility & coordination as well, pretty much everything.

Maybe they should have more tennis players on Dancing With the Stars, so we can see how coordinated they are compared to NFL players, aren't they all cleaning up on that show?

That basically applies to players of key positions like WR, CB and RB's. But linemen, kickers and tight ends aren't the best athletes.

 

[Conquistador]

What about Safin--he looks big on television

 

[BallzofSkill]

safin looks thin actually. i think he's carrying the bare minimum for an athlete his size. but today i was watching lopez/nadal match and thought that lopez has a huge frame and quite muscular. probably the most impressive frame on tour i say.

on second thought lopez is listed at 6'1/2" and 190lbs. But look at this picture with Nadal.

 

[JohnnySpot]

tennis players are built for tennis. football players are built for football.


Stop trying to compare the two.

 

[Texas21]

Tennis players have to spend a lot more time working on strokes and if they were to spend that much time getting big they would not spend enough time on skillwork.

It's just priorities, it wouldn't make sense to be as big as a football player. It's like asking why ping pong players aren't ripped up.

 

[garyfiddler]

Can Nadal play in the NFL with his physique?

 

[randysmith80]

Can Nadal play in the NFL with his physique?

I'm sure if he did enough steriods like NFL players he could!


The NFL is a joke, tennis players are much better athletes.

 

[randysmith80]

Are there tennis players who are as big or buff as football players (assuming we're talking about the respective "players" from the PROFESSIONAL ranks)? No.

Big as e.g. football linemen? No, no, no, no, no.

Buff as e.g. football "skill position" players? No, no, no, no, no.
Fast as e.g. football "skill postition" players? No, no, no, no, no.
Athletic as e.g. football "skill postition" players? No, no, no, no, no.

That's why THESE guys are tennis players and why THOSE guys are football players. The "football-esque" jocks in tennis may exist but they're needles-in-haystacks.

Sorry, but that's the truth. As fast as Rafa is (and he's got a great motor), there are a slew of D.B.'s, receivers, running backs, etc. who'd blow his doors in, sprint-wise.

STERIODS, STERIODS, STERIODS!

 

[superstition]

pictures are deceiving because their size is only relative to the people around them.

But Cooley is much bigger than the guy next to him.

 

[Pioneer]

Sorry for reviving this old thread. Can't help it.

I suspect Moose Malloy gets his ass kicked on the court on a regular basis so he just wants to make tennis, the sport of kings and generals, look inferior to... what do you call that sport where a bunch of guys with helmets go like "HUT HUT" or whatever and they throw this joke of a ball around?

Most Americans seem to think nowadays that looking like a bodybuilder means you are a great "athlete" (whatever that means) or means he's strong. Just look at Fedor Emelianenko - they guy looks like Roger Federer! He even has a pot belly. And he DESTROYS bodybuilder-like guys like they are amateurs (which they are). Royce Gracie at 80kg didn't have any problem defeating 150kg guys. It's not about how ripped you got in the guy, it's about how much you have practiced your sport so that your body has shaped to play it. Watch Rickson Gracie train - he doesn't pump in the guy, he does agility exercises on the beach and meditates. How about another "physical" sport - boxing. James "Lights Out" Toney isn't the guy TT would consider "a great athlete" but he didn't earn the nickname Lights Out for nothing. I'm pretty sure Marat Safin can lift as much weight if not more than most K1 kickboxers. Does this mean that he would shoot a harder liver punch than them - NO. And just because NFL guys could sprint faster than Dolgopolov does that mean that they could chase down a dropshot, then turn back and chase down a lob and hit a winner from that - NO.

It wouldn't be a contest at all, the speed at which tennis players change directions(on a tiny tennis court, where anticipation is more important than speed) is a joke compared to what NFL players can do. NFL receivers can change directions on a dime, this isn't track & field or something, its not played on a straight line. Time any receiver moving sideways, backwards, walking on their hands, whatever & comparing it to how Nadal does the same sort of things would be sort of sad.

It's odd that some here seem to think football is a sport just about brute power or speed, it requires a lot more than that, it requires agility & coordination as well, pretty much everything.

Maybe they should have more tennis players on Dancing With the Stars, so we can see how coordinated they are compared to NFL players, aren't they all cleaning up on that show?

 

[Raindogs]

Tennis is entertaining as a PASTIME or HOBBY like golf or ping pong or playing cards, but as a SPORT it's a bit of a joke. I really have issue with it's classification as a sport.

Especially where you can get to the very upper echelons of the game whilst being skinny-fat like Federer and Nadal with their thin arms/legs and pot bellies. Compare that to football and the weakest guys there will have arms and legs several times as big as that yet abs several times as defined.

And that translates directly to their performance. Be it speed, strength, power (strength per unit time) or stamina they'd absolutely smoke ANY tennis player out there today, very much including Nadal. They are better athletes full stop.

Why do you think these guys are in the gym pumping hard iron, squatting 4x bodyweight for reps and Nadal does some prissy little thero-band exercises on a power plate?

If guys with the athletic talent as football players turned their hand to tennis, the sport would be taken to a whole new level.

Sweet feathery jeebus I hope that you are engaging in some rather effective trolling, because if you're not then you have to be one of the most plumb dumb bastages to ever grace these boards, and that is really saying something.

The NFL is full of pot-bellied fat f$cks that get winded even after a 2 second "play" every 5 minutes.
The actual time the ball is in play during an entire NFL game is something like 1o minutes, compare that with the constant movement and stamina required during a tennis match, and there's no comparison.

 

[tennytive]

I'm surprised no one came up with the obvious answer… yes.

Serena.

 

[Nadalfan89]

Sweet feathery jeebus I hope that you are engaging in some rather effective trolling, because if you're not then you have to be one of the most plumb dumb bastages to ever grace these boards, and that is really saying something.

The NFL is full of pot-bellied fat f$cks that get winded even after a 2 second "play" every 5 minutes.
The actual time the ball is in play during an entire NFL game is something like 1o minutes, compare that with the constant movement and stamina required during a tennis match, and there's no comparison.

Umm, while I don't agree with what the other guy said, you made really ignorant comments about football. Those "fat guys" you're referring to can squat 600 lbs and bench press 400lbs. Their job is to be very high intensity for a few seconds, so faulting them for getting tired is ridiculous.

Tennis is a sport of cunning, agility and stamina. Football is about power, courage and speed. You can't compare the two.

 

[Walenty]

Oh good Lord no.

You can't even compare the two. Completely different sports.
Every time John McEnroe throws around something like "Tsonga could be a linebacker in the NFL," I cringe.

I wish people would stop making delusional comparisons.

 

[Mortifier]

Delete, worst post of 2011

 

[namelessone]

First of all, the comparison of these two sports is pretty stupid. One focuses on flexibility and hand-eye coordination whereas the other places focus on being big first(to survive on court clashes) and hand-eye coordination has way way less importance in nfl than in tennis. Not to mention the fact that we are comparing individual sports with team sports.

If we really wanna take the physique road, no, tennis players won't, on average, be as big as football players, but we have to remember that most guys in the nfl are pumped full of every steroid known to man. It's pretty much accepted fact.

 

[kevsaenz]

Sorry for reviving this old thread. Can't help it.

I suspect Moose Malloy gets his ass kicked on the court on a regular basis so he just wants to make tennis, the sport of kings and generals, look inferior to... what do you call that sport where a bunch of guys with helmets go like "HUT HUT" or whatever and they throw this joke of a ball around?

Most Americans seem to think nowadays that looking like a bodybuilder means you are a great "athlete" (whatever that means) or means he's strong. Just look at Fedor Emelianenko - they guy looks like Roger Federer! He even has a pot belly. And he DESTROYS bodybuilder-like guys like they are amateurs (which they are). Royce Gracie at 80kg didn't have any problem defeating 150kg guys. It's not about how ripped you got in the guy, it's about how much you have practiced your sport so that your body has shaped to play it. Watch Rickson Gracie train - he doesn't pump in the guy, he does agility exercises on the beach and meditates. How about another "physical" sport - boxing. James "Lights Out" Toney isn't the guy TT would consider "a great athlete" but he didn't earn the nickname Lights Out for nothing. I'm pretty sure Marat Safin can lift as much weight if not more than most K1 kickboxers. Does this mean that he would shoot a harder liver punch than them - NO. And just because NFL guys could sprint faster than Dolgopolov does that mean that they could chase down a dropshot, then turn back and chase down a lob and hit a winner from that - NO.

Apparently you don't even know mma very well either. When Royce Gracie first broke onto the scene no one but ken shamrock knew what an arm bar was, which is why he was owning in his fights. Even Fedor's style of fighting isn't cutting it anymore, the guys he's fighting are just too big and strong. In Fedor's last fight he gave up nearly 50 lbs to Silva once Silva got on top of him he was done.

Comparing across sports is doesn't make any sense. Football players train to be strong, fast, and explosive. Tennis players train to be quick, have endurance, and to prevent injury. Just look at the way each train, football players will be doing squats, deadlifts, and bench at high numbers compared to their BW, while tennis players generally don't lift heavy and train more for injury prevention.

BTW LOL at Fedor and Federer looking simular, only thing they have in common is the Fed

 

[Serve_Ace]

First of all, the comparison of these two sports is pretty stupid. One focuses on flexibility and hand-eye coordination whereas the other places focus on being big first(to survive on court clashes) and hand-eye coordination has way way less importance in nfl than in tennis. Not to mention the fact that we are comparing individual sports with team sports.

If we really wanna take the physique road, no, tennis players won't, on average, be as big as football players, but we have to remember that most guys in the nfl are pumped full of every steroid known to man. It's pretty much accepted fact.

I dunno about hand eye coordination being way less important in football.....Pretty sure you need hand eye to catch the ball...

 

[Ronaldo]

I'm surprised no one came up with the obvious answer… yes.

Serena.

Saw a practice for our Ladies 3.5 team. Every year they keep bulking up.

 

[Wilander Fan]

I dunno about hand eye coordination being way less important in football.....Pretty sure you need hand eye to catch the ball...

Really only 2 or 3 guys on a football field out of 22 are expected to catch the ball on most plays. It's a specialty skill. Most of the guys on the field are basically there to be human obstacles so you have a lot of freakishly big guys. Even with the skill positions, the players do very different things. It's very specialized and no one needs to be a complete athlete. Tennis is very different. You need to be good at just about everything.

 

[Devilito]

Why would tennis players want to be as big as football players? Does that even make sense? What an idiotic thread. Why aren’t marathon runners built like bodybuilders? The build of a tennis player is optimized for….. tennis. Amazing concept isn't it

 

[Nextman916]

Verdasco got pretty huge, unnecessarily so imo.

 

[BallzofSkill]

those 'fat' football guys probably have 35 inch vertical leap. It can be very deceiving if you've never seen them in in actual game. people have this image of fat=slow and lumbering, but football players are different. VERY different.

And in terms of athleticism, sorry, football wins hands down 24/7/365.

 

[accidental]

Alot of football fans in this thread think strength and size are the only components of athleticism.



I lol'd. Lets break it down to the different components and compare the best of each game.

Strength: Football wins by a large margin
Endurance: Tennis. Not even close
Power - Football
Speed - Football
Agility - Tennis
Flexibility - Tennis
Hand-Eye Coordination - Tennis. You cant compare hitting hundreds of different strokes every match to having to throw and catch the ball a couple of times a game. Many players never even coming close to even touching the ball in football.
Nerve - Football. But not by a big margin. Very different kinds of 'nerve' required in both sports.
Durability - Football. Depends how you define this.
Analytic Aptitude - Tennis. Again easily. No on court coaching. You have to be aware every single stroke and you have no team mates.



Its stupid to compare sports this completely different.

 

[Sid_Vicious]

Alot of football fans in this thread think strength and size are the only components of athleticism.







Its stupid to compare sports this completely different.

Yep. I am sure Michael Phelps does not have a vertical leap of 35 inches. Does that mean he is not good enough athlete? Hell no.

Also, agility? tennis? No way. Football players need to be really exceptional at changing directions. That is why they are so prone to ACL injuries.

 

[Bobby Jr]

Lets break it down to the different components and compare the best of each game.

Speed - Football
Nerve - Football. But not by a big margin. Very different kinds of 'nerve' required in both sports.
Its stupid to compare sports this completely different.

As you say with durability - it's how you define it.

Speed for example. For many footballers it hardly is. The guys who need to be lightning fast are - for the others it's not as pinnacle in their skillset. For tennis players however speed is vital for every single player. Those who don't have it cannot be truly competitive no matter what their other strengths.

Nerve on the other hand - not a chance football has it over tennis. The nerve to play a team sport with set plays, significant breaks/strategy talks and support players cannot be compared to that of an individual sport. It's not even in the same planet. Team sportspeople play their sport because they excel in the 'support group' conditions that team sports offer.

 

[President]

those 'fat' football guys probably have 35 inch vertical leap. It can be very deceiving if you've never seen them in in actual game. people have this image of fat=slow and lumbering, but football players are different. VERY different.

And in terms of athleticism, sorry, football wins hands down 24/7/365.

Have to agree with this. American Football is probably the most "athletic" sport out there in terms of the physical abilities of its athletes. Their power and speed are unmatched in any other sport.

 

[Nadalfan89]

As you say with durability - it's how you define it.

Speed for example. For many footballers it hardly is. The guys who need to be lightning fast are - for the others it's not as pinnacle in their skillset. For tennis players however speed is vital for every single player. Those who don't have it cannot be truly competitive no matter what their other strengths.

Nerve on the other hand - not a chance football has it over tennis. The nerve to play a team sport with set plays, significant breaks/strategy talks and support players cannot be compared to that of an individual sport. It's not even in the same planet. Team sportspeople play their sport because they excel in the 'support group' conditions that team sports offer.

Tennis players have no fear of injury, letting down teammates, being traded or (in most cases) media scandals.

Football is a pressure cooker sport with an almost 100% chance of injury and pain and ridicule. You cannot logically compare tennis nerve to football nerve.

 

[Bobby Jr]

...American Football is probably the most "athletic" sport out there in terms of the physical abilities of its athletes. Their power and speed are unmatched in any other sport.

You mean other than sprinting or weight-lifting?

I get the point tho - it's the combination that matters. Being good all-round. Brawn is important in American Football, but analytical/strategic process is almost irrelevant for most players (maybe even a hindrance).

 

[Ronaldo]

Unless you are Hershel Walker or Randy White, big or buff don't age well.

 

[President]

You mean other than sprinting or weight-lifting?

I get the point tho - it's the combination that matters. Being good all-round. Brawn is important in American Football, but analytical/strategic process is almost irrelevant for most players (maybe even a hindrance).

That's true, but I consider strategic abilties to be totally seperate from athleticism. I'm not saying tennis is not an athletic sport (probably just as athletic as sports like soccer, ect) but just not to the same level as American Football in terms of raw physical abilities.

 

[Bobby Jr]

Tennis players have no fear of injury, letting down teammates, being traded or (in most cases) media scandals.

Football is a pressure cooker sport with an almost 100% chance of injury and pain and ridicule. You cannot logically compare tennis nerve to football nerve.

Again, depends how you define 'nerve'. I thought you meant nerve during the playing or the game, critical moments etc - not simply avoiding acting like an animal or criminal to avoid public ridicule etc. That is more related to basic intelligence and maturity, not nerve.

The fear of injury exists at all times in most sports to some level. Having grown up with it means that fear is largely subconscious in sportspeople - and probably non-existent during their matches/games.

 

[Bobby Jr]

That's true, but I consider strategic abilties to be totally seperate from athleticism. I'm not saying tennis is not an athletic sport (probably just as athletic as sports like soccer, ect) but just not to the same level as American Football in terms of raw physical abilities.

Agreed... until you look at what raw phsical abilities are?

Do they include the touch to volley like Edberg? Or the flexibility to serve like Sampras? Or the endurance to run like Chang?

 

[Nadalfan89]

Agreed... until you look at what raw phsical abilities are?

Do they include the touch to volley like Edberg? Or the flexibility to serve like Sampras? Or the endurance to run like Chang?

Okay any running back has much more endurance and speed than Chang. 95% of all NFL players are more flexible than Sampras and as for touch...not needed in football.

 

[accidental]

That's true, but I consider strategic abilties to be totally seperate from athleticism. I'm not saying tennis is not an athletic sport (probably just as athletic as sports like soccer, ect) but just not to the same level as American Football in terms of raw physical abilities.

So I guese Haile Gebrselassie isnt a good athlete to you because of his lack of power and slow sprint times?

Once again athleticism is more than just being fast and powerful.

 

[Noodles]

95% of all NFL players are more flexible than Sampras

Thanks for teh lulz.

 

[accidental]

Tennis players have no fear of injury, letting down teammates, being traded or (in most cases) media scandals.

Football is a pressure cooker sport with an almost 100% chance of injury and pain and ridicule. You cannot logically compare tennis nerve to football nerve.

Tennis players have fears of injury. Also when they dont get injured and cant play, they dont get paid, unlike football players.

They dont have fear of being traded or letting down team mates, but if they start to perform poorly there is no safety net, they dont make money and they cant afford to travel, pay their coach etc.

Again, these are very different sports. I only said nerve was a greater factor in football because of the violent nature of the sport, the fact that you will almost certainly be in physical pain every single game.

 

[Nadalfan89]

Thanks for teh lulz.

Don't think so? Youtube some football training and see how much stretching they do.

When a 300lbs linebacker falls on you, you better be flexible.

 

[mental midget]

Okay any running back has much more endurance and speed than Chang. 95% of all NFL players are more flexible than Sampras and as for touch...not needed in football.

have a read from an interview w/ pat etcheberry:

Pat Etcheberry: One player who stands out for outstanding footwork, because everyone misunderstood how great of an athlete he really was, was Sampras. Pete moved so well on the court and was so easy and so natural, people don't realize how quick he was.

Tennis Week: One player once told me next to Michael Chang, Pete was the fastest guy on the tour at one point. He was a tremendous leaper as well, that guy could dunk a basketball.

Pat Etcheberry: Yeah, he was much, much faster than you think he was. I know this for a fact because when (Michigan cornerback) Charles Woodson won the Heisman Trophy (in 1997) coming out of Michigan, he came in and worked with me to get him ready for the (NFL) combine. At the same time, I was working with Pete at the time. A couple of times, I made them run and do some agility drills together and Pete stood right next to Woodson and did what Woodson could do.

Tennis Week: That's impressive because Charles Woodson was a great athlete.

Pat Etcheberry: Yeah and it showed that some of these tennis players are great athletes as well. A few of the football players said to me: "Hey, these tennis guys are a lot tougher than we think they are." They're on the court working out they're in the gym training and some of the tennis players are great athletes.

 

[Nadalfan89]

Tennis players have fears of injury. Also when they dont get injured and cant play, they dont get paid, unlike football players.

They dont have fear of being traded or letting down team mates, but if they start to perform poorly there is no safety net, they dont make money and they cant afford to travel, pay their coach etc.

Again, these are very different sports. I only said nerve was a greater factor in football because of the violent nature of the sport, the fact that you will almost certainly be in physical pain every single game.

I mean a bad injury. Spraining your ankle on a court is nothing compared to being concussed severely by a hit to the head.

 

[Ronaldo]

I mean a bad injury. Spraining your ankle on a court is nothing compared to being concussed severely by a hit to the head.

Football players must fear injury. Their contracts are not guaranteed. Tennis players like boxers must kill what they eat.

 

[Bobby Jr]

Okay any running back has much more endurance and speed than Chang. 95% of all NFL players are more flexible than Sampras and as for touch...not needed in football.

So they are raw physical abilities then?

You think 95% of NFL players have more endurance and speed than Chang?? You're joking surely. Maybe 5% have the same speed and 10% max the same endurance.

On endurance, not sure if you've ever noticed but NFL is spent mostly standing still while someone brings you a water bottle or sitting on the sideline waiting your turn. Can you explain where endurance matters for most of the team? If anything endurance for much of the team is not remotely critical to the player's role - and without doubt less critical than in tennis, squash, badminton, running, boxing, soccer, rugby, league, netball, basketball, lacrosse, hockey, ice hockey, waterpolo, swimming.... The first ones I can think of which NFL wins here are darts, diving and javelin/shotput/discus. A couple of marginal/situational ones are cricket (depending on what you're doing - batting or fielding) and golf.

Put simply, NFL requires very role specific and mostly narrow range of skills/attributes depending on what you do. They specialise in being specialists - unlike most other sports which require more rounded capabilities. Neither is necessarily better but without doubt tennis is very high on the list of requiring a good overall mix in terms of talent, athleticism, strength, fitness, dexterity, and tactical awareness. For that reason it's pretty obvious few in the NFL could ever be considered as well rounded athletes as any top tennis player. In fact, being more rounded would probably be counter productive for many NFL players, just as being less rounded (i.e. way more buff) would also be counter productive for a tennis player would.

They may be more famous and make more money but that is more an indication of the sport's popularity with the masses and suitability for TV format, not the participant's skills.

 

[billsgwn]

Don't think so? Youtube some football training and see how much stretching they do.

When a 300lbs linebacker falls on you, you better be flexible.

I dont know who you have been watching but there hasnt been a 300 lb linebacker created anywhere. The roids have helped make them all biger but a 300 lb linebacker? Not even close.

 

[rainingaces]

Tennis is entertaining as a PASTIME or HOBBY like golf or ping pong or playing cards, but as a SPORT it's a bit of a joke. I really have issue with it's classification as a sport.

Especially where you can get to the very upper echelons of the game whilst being skinny-fat like Federer and Nadal with their thin arms/legs and pot bellies. Compare that to football and the weakest guys there will have arms and legs several times as big as that yet abs several times as defined.

And that translates directly to their performance. Be it speed, strength, power (strength per unit time) or stamina they'd absolutely smoke ANY tennis player out there today, very much including Nadal. They are better athletes full stop.

Why do you think these guys are in the gym pumping hard iron, squatting 4x bodyweight for reps and Nadal does some prissy little thero-band exercises on a power plate?

If guys with the athletic talent as football players turned their hand to tennis, the sport would be taken to a whole new level.

American football?

Dont you mean rugby for American sissys? Big shoulder guards, pads, helmets all thats is missing is the teddy LOL. I tried to watch it once, thought it was just one long commercial and fell asleep.

 

[Pidgeon]

American football?

Dont you mean rugby for American sissys? Big shoulder guards, pads, helmets all thats is missing is the teddy LOL. I tried to watch it once, thought it was just one long commercial and fell asleep.

it's on now ...
(ps : you're right, authentic rugby >>>>>>>>> american football)

 

[Pidgeon]

Tennis is entertaining as a PASTIME or HOBBY like golf or ping pong or playing cards, but as a SPORT it's a bit of a joke. I really have issue with it's classification as a sport.

Especially where you can get to the very upper echelons of the game whilst being skinny-fat like Federer and Nadal with their thin arms/legs and pot bellies. Compare that to football and the weakest guys there will have arms and legs several times as big as that yet abs several times as defined.

And that translates directly to their performance. Be it speed, strength, power (strength per unit time) or stamina they'd absolutely smoke ANY tennis player out there today, very much including Nadal. They are better athletes full stop.

Why do you think these guys are in the gym pumping hard iron, squatting 4x bodyweight for reps and Nadal does some prissy little thero-band exercises on a power plate?

If guys with the athletic talent as football players turned their hand to tennis, the sport would be taken to a whole new level.

you appear to have no idea on what a sport is about...
it's more about technique than weightlifting....

your post is just plain ridiculous ...

 

[Bobby Jr]

Dont you mean rugby for American sissys? Big shoulder guards, pads, helmets all thats is missing is the teddy LOL...

And by Rugby do you mean how the All Blacks play........... or how England plays? :razz:


(sorry, couldn't resist)

 

[Clay lover]

Having seen both sports I prefer Rugby over AF. Never appreciated ball games with that many pauses like American football but that's just me.