Mid 2014 had the strongest top10 ever name wise.
If we want do go down this route, then we have to cut out Djokovic’s last 11 years
Better ceiling
I am talking generally. 2004-2007
Might as well cut out Djokovic’s last 11 years then
Roddick is better and that’s all that matters. Don’t really rate Medvedev
Djokovic won multiple slams over the past 11 years, Agassi did not.
I am not talking about this though, but about Djokovic facing an aging Federer after 2013
Funny joke, absurd!
Well, Ruud was in the top five not too long ago. He is very controversial when it comes to his playing ability. Some even argue he is one of the worst top ten players ever despite his career-high ranking.
I am talking about Novak facing an aging Fed after 2013.
Like I said, Roddick was a more challenging opponent than Med in the biggest matches
1-4 happens a lot even in rivarlies against the best players. 1-7 does not, it's a huge difference. A couple of matches is a streak, 7-1 is a clear pattern especially considering Alcaraz also won their first ever meeting before both were on the ATP tour, their first ATP tour match ever and all of that despite being 2 years younger than Sinner.
The problem isnt Medvedev, the problem is that Medvedev is the best player of his generation (or even decade).
Nadal went MIA after that though. 2014 wasnt bad, but you already saw early signs of the bad 90s gen. I guess Milos at #10 was the only 90s player here?Mid 2014 had the strongest top10 ever name wise.
Big4, Stan, Delpo, Ferrer, Berdych, Nishikori, Raonic.
Bad excuses imo, it is that simple.
I see your point, i just think it needs to be pointed out that Fed-Roddick and Nole-Medvedev isnt fair comparisons. It becomes more clear if one name them Federer-gen, Djokodal-gen, and Medvedev-gen.
His initial rise into the top ten was after winning many Atp 250s tournaments but in 2022, which was his best season, the vast majority of his points was not from Atp 250s. Without Atp 250s someone like FAA this year would be definitely ranked lower. It is not as simple as reducing points from Atp 250s as that would also affect " deserving players". I am a Ruud fan and I do not believe he is as bad as some people say even if he declines and even if he was a weak top 5, I just wanted to say that some players who many fans claim are not that good like Ruud have also been in the top 5.
I wrote name wise.
And where the did 1-4 come from again?
Worst rest of the field ever.
This is the age-old question, is the rest of the field that bad or are they that good? Perhaps a bit of both?
Thats apparently not an option lol.
May be, but 72-1 is never easy.
They’re definitely not as good as they seem.
Same can be said for Federer 2004-2007, he basically only lost to Nadal. Is that a sign of strength?
He was strong, yes.
Well, they played some extraordinary tennis in the Roland Garros final.
stats usually support 2012 as strongest followed by 2015 and 2009+11-14 period and some peak with 1982.Mid 2014 had the strongest top10 ever name wise.
Big4, Stan, Delpo, Ferrer, Berdych, Nishikori, Raonic.
Ok so you DID take a specific timeframe and you're acting surprised that I did the same? Didn't notice the 7-1 run that Alcaraz had over Sinner at some point, but you're the first to point Djokovic's run over Alcaraz?
More errors than winners for both and two choke jobs isn’t exactly extraordinary and neither one played well at the same time but was definitely a roller coaster Hell, CA was practically trying to give that match away down 3 match points, just got lucky.
The match having more errors than winners does not mean that it was not very high quality, nobody played at the same level all the time but the quality of the rallies was breathtaking at times and Sinner did not give up even after wasting match points.
That 7-1 that Alcaraz pulled against Sinner was embarassing, there were so many threads on it. I literally had to check where the 4-1 was coming from.But I never did that
The only thing I did was mention that it's not cherry picking for him to bring up the fact that he beat Alcaraz at a slam this year and they're 1-1. So saying Djokovic is always losing to Alcaraz is nonsense and lumping Alcaraz and Sinner together is dishonest; he is losing to Sinner, not to Alcaraz.
So what? He still posed no threat to Novak in BO5. Old Fed being considered, but not Agassi is typical Novak fan bias (not saying it applies to you).
2 competitive finals at Wimb actually. And a decent USO showing in 2006.
But Fed at least in 2004-2005 had to beat more than 1 of the guys I’ve mentioned to win his slams. His draws were much tougher than the draws from this era, it’s not even close. Just compare Sinner’s draws in 2024-2025 to Fed’s in 2004-2005
You just need to watch both matches. Unless you think peak Sinner > peak Fed on grass, Roddick absolutely played the better match
Is peak Sinner better than peak Fed on grass?
