Harry_Wild
G.O.A.T.
I owned both type of vehicles and am very pleasantly surprised how much I like driving my SUV over my sedans.
What are your experiences?
What are your experiences?
Are you have happy switching to a crossover/SUV/PickUp over a sedan/sports car?
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chrischris
G.O.A.T.
I prefer my Bentley over my Rolls, personally.
Raul_SJ
G.O.A.T.
I've only driven sub compact sedans with good fuel economy of 35+mpg freeway
I am a staunch environmentalist and have long been very conscious of my carbon footprint.
Long before the little angry climate agitator Greta came along.
Want to consider a truck or SUV, but have been told that it will not handle nearly as well as a sedan.
I am a staunch environmentalist and have long been very conscious of my carbon footprint.
Long before the little angry climate agitator Greta came along.
Want to consider a truck or SUV, but have been told that it will not handle nearly as well as a sedan.
chrischris
G.O.A.T.
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chrischris
G.O.A.T.
I let my driver do the driving. That way i can do the talking.
chrischris
G.O.A.T.
I've only driven sub compact sedans with good fuel economy of 35+mpg freeway
I am a staunch environmentalist and have long been very conscious of my carbon footprint.
Long before the little angry climate agitator Greta came along.
Want to consider a truck or SUV, but have been told that it will not handle nearly as well as a sedan.
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Harry_Wild
G.O.A.T.
Rolls Royce has better everything but is price more too. Bentley buyer is the guy who buys Bentley think it same as a Rolls but it is not!
We went from a Renault Megane Coupe to a Toyota RAV4 2000 ... best thing we ever did .
Great fun to drive , 100% reliability and fabulously raised viewpoint ..
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chrischris
G.O.A.T.
Turbo-87
G.O.A.T.
Toyota Rav4's are nice little vehicles. I have a 2016 that I use for my daily driver since it is reliable, easy on gas and AWD. Perfect vehicle if you want to blend in with the other cookie-cutter cars. I never thought I would own one but I got a nice deal and knew they were low on the total cost of ownership. I couldn't own one as my only vehicle but they fit the niche I was looking for.
Slowtwitcher
Legend
People that say SUV's are "fun to drive" don't really know what fun driving is.
Deon Sanders
Legend
There is no reason to get anything other than a 4x4 half ton pickup
Like a F-150 or Ram 1500
New they are nicer than some "luxury" brand cars and have every single feature you can get. Plus you can take it off a cliff and carry or tow anything you want.
No brainer
Like a F-150 or Ram 1500
New they are nicer than some "luxury" brand cars and have every single feature you can get. Plus you can take it off a cliff and carry or tow anything you want.
No brainer
Crocodile
G.O.A.T.
Not really a fan of SUV,s. They are not particularly attractive cars and are a blight on car parks. In the 80’s and 90’s you could have 300zx, supra, 3000gt, soarer, SVX, Celica, NSX, prelude, probe, calibra, fiat coupe, alpha gtv, 280zx, starion, mr2, 924,944,968,928, all nice cars.
Now we all these boring SUV’s. Yes they are very practical, but they sit high, many drive like buses and not that stylish, however nice to see some cross overs trying to combine sports car styling with SUV height.
Now we all these boring SUV’s. Yes they are very practical, but they sit high, many drive like buses and not that stylish, however nice to see some cross overs trying to combine sports car styling with SUV height.
Mongolmike
Hall of Fame
Had a Rav4 for 10 years. Rock solid. Unstoppable in snow with awd and full winter tires.
Next vehicle was/is a sporty Audi A3. Bought it in first model year (bought it in 2014, but its a 2015). Absolutely NO comparison in the sporty handling dept. The Audi is a blast to drive. Also, with full winter tires and awd it has no trouble with snow. I have literally plowed snow with the front splitter down my unplowed street.
The only thing l miss is the storage. Obviously much more room in the Rav4 than a 4 dr sedan with the seats down (but l can still slide my bike into the back and close the trunk...so, it's ok)
Not sure what l will get next, but 1000% it will be sporty handling. Maybe a Mustang with a v-8 and a manual transmission...maybe a Supra...
Next vehicle was/is a sporty Audi A3. Bought it in first model year (bought it in 2014, but its a 2015). Absolutely NO comparison in the sporty handling dept. The Audi is a blast to drive. Also, with full winter tires and awd it has no trouble with snow. I have literally plowed snow with the front splitter down my unplowed street.
The only thing l miss is the storage. Obviously much more room in the Rav4 than a 4 dr sedan with the seats down (but l can still slide my bike into the back and close the trunk...so, it's ok)
Not sure what l will get next, but 1000% it will be sporty handling. Maybe a Mustang with a v-8 and a manual transmission...maybe a Supra...
Turbo-87
G.O.A.T.
I would be interested in the Supra had Toyota made it. I don't dislike BMW, but it takes away from the history this car had. You should be able to pick up a used 2020 for a decent price since Toyota decided to slap the faces of first year owners by adding 47hp and suspension modifications in just the second year. Lately, I have been looking for a pre-2010 Corvette Z06 or a 1990's Corvette ZR1. The former is a great car and you can usually find them reasonably priced. My other wish is to find a decent AC Cobra kit car roller so I can throw the Mustang's Coyote engine in as a restomod. Talk about some fun in a 2600lb car.
Ronaldo
Bionic Poster
No brainer???
Mongolmike
Hall of Fame
VW Golf R is new for 2021.... still awd, more hp (330?), and a manual...plus it's a hatchback...sporty AND storage in the boot. Gonna be a bit pricey, could probably get a base Macan for just a few k more.
chinobambino
Rookie
At the end of the day, it's different strokes for different folks.
SUV's serve a purpose depending on your needs. One thing I would say though, is that those who buy SUV (and often the accompanying AWD/4WD) for better performance in rain and snow - shouldn't overlook the impact of winter tires. After living in Europe and seeing everyone driving 2WD cars in the Alps during ski trips, you realize that it's the grip of the tires that make a bigger impact.
SUV's serve a purpose depending on your needs. One thing I would say though, is that those who buy SUV (and often the accompanying AWD/4WD) for better performance in rain and snow - shouldn't overlook the impact of winter tires. After living in Europe and seeing everyone driving 2WD cars in the Alps during ski trips, you realize that it's the grip of the tires that make a bigger impact.
ollinger
G.O.A.T.
Absolutely. Tests done by the automotive press remind us that TURNING and BRAKING are much more dependent on having good winter tires than how many driven wheels one has; a front wheel drive car with winter tires will turn and stop much better than a 4WD car with "all season" tires. Tests found a small advantage for AWD in getting going from a stop but little else compared with a car with good snow tires. In the mid 1990s we had a storm that dumped over 30 inches, and I had to go to do some work at the hospital just before the snow stopped falling, on unplowed highways. My front wheel drive (Volvo 850) with 4 Blizzaks had no problem going through that mess.
golden chicken
Hall of Fame
Want to consider a truck or SUV, but have been told that it will not handle nearly as well as a sedan.
You might be surprised how high the limits are for the modern SUV or truck compared to designs of 15-20+ years ago. Your average driver, even driving spiritedly for the street, would probably have no issues.
Although I still prefer sedans to SUVs, I understand the practical limitations of my Mazda3, especially if you factor in small children. That said, I'd rather just dive off the deep end when the time comes and go straight to a minivan. My wife doesn't appreciate my pragmatism.
Ronaldo
Bionic Poster
Which minivans are still around?You might be surprised how high the limits are for the modern SUV or truck compared to designs of 15-20+ years ago. Your average driver, even driving spiritedly for the street, would probably have no issues.
Although I still prefer sedans to SUVs, I understand the practical limitations of my Mazda3, especially if you factor in small children. That said, I'd rather just dive off the deep end when the time comes and go straight to a minivan. My wife doesn't appreciate my pragmatism.
mightyrick
Legend
I'd rather have my truck more than anything else. It goes anywhere, does anything, and looks good,
golden chicken
Hall of Fame
The three I would consider are Sienna, Odyssey, and Sedona.
max
Legend
I had a Volvo 740 and used to love to work on it: oil changes, belt changes, tune ups, brake pad changes, did the valve cover gasket and timing belt. Always thought I'd find an 850. Lovely solid boxes, like jeeps. How was your electrical?
Harry_Wild
G.O.A.T.
Go ssk a Bentley owner! LOL!
Harry_Wild
G.O.A.T.
Kia Sedona, Honda Odyssey, Toyota Sienna and Chrysler Pacifica!
Minivans are making a big comeback in the U.S. Many independent contractors are using them instead of pickup trucks because they can cary stuff securely and good gas mileage, cheaper to repair and they like the sportiness of the drive.
Harry_Wild
G.O.A.T.
People with SUV keep them clean! I know I keep my SUV clean too! Check after every drive to make sure it is spotless!
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Ronaldo
Bionic Poster
Locally, only see Sprinters
Harry_Wild
G.O.A.T.
Go and demo the BMW X5 for a crossover with greating handing!
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golden chicken
Hall of Fame
My favorite stock handling car to drive was a Porsche Cayman S. Telepathic steering. Perfect weight in the wheel. I also enjoyed a Mitsubishi Evo 8.
"at its finest"
They were well damped, had wonderful feedback from the front end and sounded glorious when vtec kick in yo, but were prone to snap oversteer at the limit which was worse than an early MR2 or old school 911. If you want precision handling at it's finest, go drive a Cayman.
There's no such thing as a cross over with great handling. That's why there are no 6'5" Olympic gymnasts.
For what it's worth, I have a new Kia Sorento and love it. It's a much better car than my partner's Audi Q7, can take the whole family, bikes, surfboards and heaps of luggage on holidays and has a 7 year warranty.
It certainly doesn't drive as poorly as most US made cars, but it is compromise and shines only once you accept the compromises.
Yes, with both 1J and 2J conversions. Lead tipped arrows.
BlueB
Legend
Both x3 and x1 handle better then x5. Pound for pound and dollar for dollar, that one is actually the least good of the family (still a great car, though).
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BlueB
Legend
Awesome!
Hmmm... Mini Countryman All4, especially the hybrid one, handles almost like a sports car. Subaru Crosstrek is somwhere there too.
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Partner had a Cooper S many years and after testing the Countryman we nicknamed it the FUS (Fat Ugly Sister).
Crosstrek (XV) is just an Impreza on stilts. Impreza already has the engine mounted too far forward to handle well and the XV is worse. Grip and handling are not the same thing.
Again, I'm not saying any are bad cars .. but they come with massive compromises and they only handle well in the absense of knowing what good handling really is.
