Are you have happy switching to a crossover/SUV/PickUp over a sedan/sports car?

[haqq777]

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[Dan Lobb]

I don’t know about you guys but right now the used car market in OZ is pretty hot, it’s a sellers market. In particular in the last 3 months 1990’s Japanese sports coupes have doubled in value and selling quick. Just this last weekend there were 2 Subaru SVX’s listed, one with 108k for 12 grand and the other for 20k with 158k, both sold in 3 days and one even had an oil leak, You’ve got Nissan 300zx non turbos selling at higher prices than a good 350z

The ICE cars are still the only hot products in town....now and going forward.

Haven't seen any EV's on this list of desirable vehicles. EV's are about as exciting as a bag of groceries.

 

[Rosstour]

I've driven a few different generations of Cayman on the track, in both stock and modified configurations, and they are about as benign at and beyond the limit as any car I've driven. Besides being able to feel the car starting to lose rear end grip through the seat and through the steering, the suspension control allows easy recovery.

On the other hand, my C6 works best when set up with just a whiff of understeer, and the toe and camber changes you get when the rear end unloads as it starts to slide make it a handful. Let off the throttle, weight transfers forward, and you spin. Stay on the throttle a bit too much, the outside tire loses traction, the transverse spring affects the inside tire, and you spin.

The most evil car I've ever driven was a first gen supercharged MR2 owned by an exceptionally good driver. He would be the equivalent of a 6.0 tennis player and set his suspension balance to have just a bit of oversteer creeping up to the limit. I drove it once, at a wet track day, and it felt so spooky I pitted after one lap and never drove it again. It felt like if I even had an impure thought, it would snap spin on me.

Only if you do something really dumb. Some cars are just waiting for a chance to kill you, the Cayman taps you on shoulder 2 or 3 times to ask if you're sure before finally letting go.

For a mid-engine car, sure, I'll agree. I do like them. Not for amateurs though.

 

[movdqa]

The ICE cars are still the only hot products in town....now and going forward.

Haven't seen any EV's on this list of desirable vehicles. EV's are about as exciting as a bag of groceries.

Toyota wants me to trade in my 2018 Camry for a new model and they offering a generous trade-in value. It's only got 25K miles though so I still consider it new.

 

[Faris]

My 981 also says hello politely every morning




Regularly take her for track days. Even taking it to the limit I can always feel when she is about to let go in the rear and I find her balance back so damn well. Never have had any over steering issues even when going a bit overboard. Like you said, you have to be super dumb to not be able to catch back.

I recently drove a 718 GTS too and absolutely the exact same feeling with that car. I don't think I have ever had such an experience with any other mid engine.

Gorgeous car! Not upto date with insider lingo especially Porsche... what are 981 and 718?

 

[dr325i]

My 981 also says hello politely every morning




Regularly take her for track days. Even taking it to the limit I can always feel when she is about to let go in the rear and I find her balance back so damn well. Never have had any over steering issues even when going a bit overboard. Like you said, you have to be super dumb to not be able to catch back.

I recently drove a 718 GTS too and absolutely the exact same feeling with that car. I don't think I have ever had such an experience with any other mid engine.

Sweet. My F80 lease end is coming up early 21.
Placed the order for the M340i, but thinking about the 718...

 

[haqq777]

Gorgeous car! Not upto date with insider lingo especially Porsche... what are 981 and 718?

Thanks. Current gen is 718. One before is 981.

 

[haqq777]

Sweet. My F80 lease end is coming up early 21.
Placed the order for the M340i, but thinking about the 718...

You have great taste . If you can, test drive the 718 GT4. Willing to wager it will blow you away.

 

[dr325i]

You have great taste . If you can, test drive the 718 GT4. Willing to wager it will blow you away.

Maybe when I send my second off to college. First one on the way in 10 days
GT3 was impressive although I’ve been on the BMW family since late 90s

 

[haqq777]

Maybe when I send my second off to college. First one on the way in 10 days
GT3 was impressive although I’ve been on the BMW family since late 90s

Best of luck. My oldest is 6 so just twelve more years to go before my turn. Actually this 981 was my first non-Bimmer purchase since grad school and only comes out in summers (barely 14k miles). My daily driver (work mostly remotely so it doesn't accumulate a lot of miles either) is a G30 xDrive. RWD is just a no-go up north and a real pain in snow/sleet and regular icing. Had the E46 M3 convertible before that when we lived down south. We are a BMW family mostly too. Wife drives her boring F15 and very happy with it.

 

[California]

Not into SUVs at all. Currently have a BMW 228i MSport, stick shift car and had a GTI before, a couple of Audi's and some other BMWs. Love fun to drive, nimble cars and don't like big, gas pig SUVs and trucks. Not really sure what people see in those.... I do hear that they like to "sit up high" but with so many trucks and SUVs on the road you are in the same boat... can't see over them anyway. Oh well, different strokes for different folks I guess.

 

[Ronaldo]

Not into SUVs at all. Currently have a BMW 228i MSport, stick shift car and had a GTI before, a couple of Audi's and some other BMWs. Love fun to drive, nimble cars and don't like big, gas pig SUVs and trucks. Not really sure what people see in those.... I do hear that they like to "sit up high" but with so many trucks and SUVs on the road you are in the same boat... can't see over them anyway. Oh well, different strokes for different folks I guess.

Drive the Mothership,