Arm friendly setup that snap back but hold tension for a long time?

[devoker]

Am I looking for a unicorn? I am not a string breaker but hit with a lot of spin.
Currently, I am using velocity mains/gosen ogsm crosses (51/49) but the string movement is making me crazy.
I tried Luxilon element mains/multifeel crosses (50 lbs) before but they gave me elbow pain and the stringbed locked up pretty quickly.
I am looking for something I can use until I break (probably more than 20-30 hours) but I don't have to keep realigning all the time.
Should I try multifeel (or a syngut) mains with a poly cross like black code 4s that would hold tension relatively well?

 

[jimmy8]

I use velocity cross with many different poly mains, and I never have to move the strings, they always snap back. If you use full bed velocity you should have the comfort you want and no need to move strings back into place.

 

[Move]

Try using hybrid Triax/Soft Poly or Triax full bed. The first setup gives you arm friendly Spin and Control, the second gives you Spin and Power. I use MSV co-focus as a cross string. First I used full poly but my arm would not take that any longer. Racket : Volkl 10 Super G

 

[tele]

Try using hybrid Triax/Soft Poly or Triax full bed. The first setup gives you arm friendly Spin and Control, the second gives you Spin and Power. I use MSV co-focus as a cross string. First I used full poly but my arm would not take that any longer. Racket : Volkl 10 Super G

if you already have ogsm, try ogsm/cream. i do not know if it will be comfy for 30 hours, but 20 hours seems possible. as with any poly, if it hurts, it has been in there too long and you should cut it out earlier if you use it again.


if you must use for 30+ hours, a multi might be a better choice. in addition to the fb triax recommended by @Move many have found luck with a full bed of multifeel black. you can also try multi or syn gut mains with monogut zx crosses(best non-poly spin in my experience, but also max power).

 

[LoanStar]

Full bed Triax or Triax/Multifeel Black. Racquets: ProKennex...KiQ+ Tour and Black Ace 300.

 

[devoker]

I tried full bed of multifeel but they also locked the stringbed very quickly. It feels like either I should have either syn gut or poly in the crosses so the mains can move freely but ogsm doesn't let the mains snap back. Unfortunately, I don't have a string machine and the stringers around me have limited choices.

 

[tele]

I tried full bed of multifeel but they also locked the stringbed very quickly. It feels like either I should have either syn gut or poly in the crosses so the mains can move freely but ogsm doesn't let the mains snap back. Unfortunately, I don't have a string machine and the stringers around me have limited choices.

are you in a country.with access to tw? most stringers(at least the ones i have used) will let you bring your own. btw syn gut is not going to help strings slide as a cross.

 

[Happi]

I tried full bed of multifeel but they also locked the stringbed very quickly. It feels like either I should have either syn gut or poly in the crosses so the mains can move freely but ogsm doesn't let the mains snap back. Unfortunately, I don't have a string machine and the stringers around me have limited choices.

Was it Multifeel in the black version that locked up quickly for you ?

 

[devoker]

Was it Multifeel in the black version that locked up quickly for you ?

Yes

are you in a country.with access to tw? most stringers(at least the ones i have used) will let you bring your own. btw syn gut is not going to help strings slide as a cross.

I can buy strings online but they cost twice compared to the stringer's prices, also not everystring is available here (Australia) such as isospeed. I found syngut crosses at least don't lock the stringbed compared to fb multi although they don't slide back.

 

[tele]

Yes

I cam buy strings online but they cost teice compared to the stringer's prices. I found syngut at least doesn't lock the stringbed although they don't slide back.

by locking, do you mean the strings notch in both directions and cannot be pulled out of place? if so, afaik multifeel shouldn't do that in a full bed because it frays instead of notching, and, at least in my experience, it can still slide over itself somewhat even when fraying. the stringbed ends up looking like you went to war with a stuffed animal right before breaking.

 

[esgee48]

For crosses, you want a string that holds tension and is slippery. Bab SG or Bab SpiralTek or Ashaway ZX would fit your needs. Since cost is a concern for you, go with the SG. 17 ga if using 16 ga mains. Use 16 ga crosses if using 15L mains. Stringing 2# looser or not is up to you.

For mains, I would trial Head Velocity, PPC, Head FXP, Head Rip Control or any other multi that has ZX such as Gamma. Multis with ZX filaments will be expensive compared to the 1st four candidates. If you elect to use a soft poly/copoly main, I really don’t have a recommendation cuz I am more familiar with very stiff polys strung at low tensions, ie sub 50#.

 

[devoker]

by locking, do you mean the strings notch in both directions and cannot be pulled out of place? if so, afaik multifeel shouldn't do that in a full bed because it frays instead of notching, and, at least in my experience, it can still slide over itself somewhat even when fraying. the stringbed ends up looking like you went to war with a stuffed animal right before breaking.

Can't remember fullbed exactly coz it was a long time ago, but element mains with multifeel crosses were notched deeply and they were locking the mains movements. I will try multifeel fullbed next time.

 

[Happi]

Yes

I can buy strings online but they cost twice compared to the stringer's prices, also not everystring is available here (Australia) such as isospeed. I found syngut crosses at least don't lock the stringbed compared to fb multi although they don't slide back.

Ok then multistrings are for sure not for you,

 

[Happi]

by locking, do you mean the strings notch in both directions and cannot be pulled out of place? if so, afaik multifeel shouldn't do that in a full bed because it frays instead of notching, and, at least in my experience, it can still slide over itself somewhat even when fraying. the stringbed ends up looking like you went to war with a stuffed animal right before breaking.

My experience too, I cut MF before when fraying gets too much. Never have a locked stringbed with MF black as cross.

 

[pjv]

For me, Multifeel black in the mains and one of several soft poly crosses gives me the best multifilament experience both with respect to feel and especially string movement. The crosses that I’ve found to be best (not in any order) are MSV swift, Isospeed Cream, Tru Pro (aka Tier One) Ghostwire.

 

[devoker]

For me, Multifeel black in the mains and one of several soft poly crosses gives me the best multifilament experience both with respect to feel and especially string movement. The crosses that I’ve found to be best (not in any order) are MSV swift, Isospeed Cream, Tru Pro (aka Tier One) Ghostwire.

I worry about the tension maintenance with soft polys as I don't break the strings

 

[Winners or Errors]

I worry about the tension maintenance with soft polys as I don't break the strings

…but MultiFeel has great tension maintenance and breaks at the right time if used in the mains.

 

[pjv]

…but MultiFeel has great tension maintenance and breaks at the right time if used in the mains.

Exactly. The multifeel mains will break (even for non-string-breakers) before the poly crosses are totally kaput.

Also, the crosses tension seem to me to be a lot less important than the mains tension.

 

[devoker]

It played more than 20-30 hours with multis but never broke them. Should I really try doing the same with soft poly crosses?
I thought soft polys lose tension much faster than anything else. Wouldn't it be weird to have a very low tension in the crosses after 20+ hours? Would it be safer to choose a stiffer poly with better tension maintenance?

 

[Happi]

Ok then multistrings are for sure not for you,

Perhaps try RPM soft or Triax, good long time review here.

https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/tecnifibre-triax-16-a-long-range-review.742684/post-17681259

 

[pjv]

It played more than 20-30 hours with multis but never broke them. Should I really try doing the same with soft poly crosses?

I’m a pretty flat hitter and not a typical “string breaker” (i.e. when I used to play with full bed, very skinny - like 1.15 gauge polys, i never broke them ever) and I never get more than 12 - 14 hours of play on the 1.25 multifeel I use in the mains. Sometimes (depending who I am hitting with and how dirty the courts are) they’ll break in as little as 8 hours.

String-feel might be the most personal thing in tennis, so you could easily hate what I love. I suggest you try it and see how it feels and performs for you. Multifeel is like $12 a pack and the crosses I mentioned above are all about $10, so it’s a cheap experiment.