Artengo Tr960 Control Tour

Does anyone know whats happening to the LeMonf -- All are out of stock and "New model in design" is shown on the page.
 
I strung up my legads with a full bed of lynx tour and the sw is still 318 stock. Now I’m going to check and see if the old string was LT as well but I don’t think so. My sw machine is calibrated so who knows.

Either way I just lean towards playing this frame stock even though on paper it’s pretty light. For whatever reason it swings perfectly through the air for me while other frames at this weight would be a bit too light for me to control.
 
Power Player said:
I strung up my legads with a full bed of lynx tour and the sw is still 318 stock. Now I’m going to check and see if the old string was LT as well but I don’t think so. My sw machine is calibrated so who knows.

Either way I just lean towards playing this frame stock even though on paper it’s pretty light. For whatever reason it swings perfectly through the air for me while other frames at this weight would be a bit too light for me to control.
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Yeah, I play with it stock too and loving it so much.

The lynx tour full bed bites the ball so good but the power is kinda low. I prefer hybrid setup with multifilament and will try TF X-One Biphase on cross + Restring Zero on main after this lynx tour full bed retires.
 
Power Player said:
I strung up my legads with a full bed of lynx tour and the sw is still 318 stock. Now I’m going to check and see if the old string was LT as well but I don’t think so. My sw machine is calibrated so who knows.

Either way I just lean towards playing this frame stock even though on paper it’s pretty light. For whatever reason it swings perfectly through the air for me while other frames at this weight would be a bit too light for me to control.
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This might be one of those frames that accommodates almost any string you like. I tried G-Tour 3 in LeGads and loved it. Followed that with Hawk Touch and loved it. Curious what you think of LT because I really like that string as well.
 
Pneumated1 said:
This might be one of those frames that accommodates almost any string you like. I tried G-Tour 3 in LeGads and loved it. Followed that with Hawk Touch and loved it. Curious what you think of LT because I really like that string as well.
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Nice. Ill get some hits in with it Friday most likely.
 
Does anyone knows which brand butt cap will fit the TR960CT good? I want to make a more flared butt cap on the TR960CT and I just replaced the base grip of the racket. The base grip is so low quality, it literally torn when I pull. I use 1 circle on the base then lay over the new replacement grip on top of it but the shape becomes too rounded now. It's fugly and weird.

I have a Head Gravity MP that I replace the grip with a head leather grip and the butt cap flares well. I love the shape of that racket and I wish to make the TR960CT grip to resemble that GMP.

Can a wilson or head butt cap fit on the artengo racket?
 
Hi everyone, I need some help regarding the TR960 Tour grip size. I read a few feedbacks on mismatched grip "buttcap + grip reference size" vs actual pallet size, with a number on the pallet being lower than the grip number on the buttcap. I got the same situation with a size 3 that feels too small and a "2" molded on grip pallet. What I'm lacking is feedback from anyone that does have the same numbers on both. Maybe it's normal to have this number difference and I just have to deal with the fact that Artengo size 3 would be too small for me. I asked the question to Decathlon directly but it's taking some time to get an answer.

Could anyone here check the number on the pallet and say if it matches the buttcap number or not? The number on the pallet should appear on both sides of the handle, at the very top on one side and closer to the bottom on the other side (so no need to unwrap the base grip too much).
Thanks in advance for your help!
 
jrzinho said:
Hi everyone, I need some help regarding the TR960 Tour grip size. I read a few feedbacks on mismatched grip "buttcap + grip reference size" vs actual pallet size, with a number on the pallet being lower than the grip number on the buttcap. I got the same situation with a size 3 that feels too small and a "2" molded on grip pallet. What I'm lacking is feedback from anyone that does have the same numbers on both. Maybe it's normal to have this number difference and I just have to deal with the fact that Artengo size 3 would be too small for me. I asked the question to Decathlon directly but it's taking some time to get an answer.

Could anyone here check the number on the pallet and say if it matches the buttcap number or not? The number on the pallet should appear on both sides of the handle, at the very top on one side and closer to the bottom on the other side (so no need to unwrap the base grip too much).
Thanks in advance for your help!
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mine did not match. label and butt cap L3 but pallet had an L2 stamp
 
djNEiGht said:
mine did not match. label and butt cap L3 but pallet had an L2 stamp
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Thanks. I guess what I'm missing is someone saying "mine did match". I confess I did not read all the messages in the 35 pages, but if there are only mismatch reports then maybe having a "2" stamp on the pallet with an L3 label and buttcap could actually be the norm for this model ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
ivanjo said:
What's the static weight and swing weight after this? How does it make the racket play better?
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Both versions of the TR960 CT are platform racquets. They play OK in stock form, but need some weight to stabilize the head for better groundstroke (& volley) penetration, and not be pushed around by heavy-ball-hitters. I personally like adding some weight at the tip of frame, which helps me to naturally unleash my OHBH. Total weight 340g, 6pts balance, and SW at 335-338.
 
TNNSDR said:
Both versions of the TR960 CT are platform racquets. They play OK in stock form, but need some weight to stabilize the head for better groundstroke (& volley) penetration, and not be pushed around by heavy-ball-hitters. I personally like adding some weight at the tip of frame, which helps me to naturally unleash my OHBH. Total weight 340g, 6pts balance, and SW at 335-338.
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I just add a head leather grip and double overgrip, it's already at 340gr. No idea about the SW since I don't have any machine nor my stringer. That's no added weight on the hoop tho
 
ivanjo said:
I just add a head leather grip and double overgrip, it's already at 340gr. No idea about the SW since I don't have any machine nor my stringer. That's no added weight on the hoop tho
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Strings 16-18g, 2 OGs 10-12g, and a leather grip adds roughly 10g more. So, I guess your frame came around 302-304g, unstrung. Make sure you have the balance your like and start finetuning if necessary. That would be a good start and @Boubi is right. 340g without any lead is quite heavy IMO.
 
LeMonf and LeGads. I have 1g at 12 with approx. 10g under the butt cap on each. They're 335g and 8 pts hl without an overgrip. Unfortunately, I have no idea about swingweight.

They swing better with tip weight but have better feel with weight at 3/9. I may add a gram back there.
 
TNNSDR said:
Strings 16-18g, 2 OGs 10-12g, and a leather grip adds roughly 10g more. So, I guess your frame came around 302-304g, unstrung. Make sure you have the balance your like and start finetuning if necessary. That would be a good start and @Boubi is right. 340g without any lead is quite heavy IMO.
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Yeah, prolly I'd swap it back to synthetic replacement grip if this one is too heavy to play with. I think the leather grip change adds about 6gr extra on the handle. I use double OG because the grip #2 of it is a bit too thin.

Even my UP is just 328.6 strung then I add 1.8gr using head tape guard.
 
Putting 2 OG adds 10-12g, no need for a leather grip, indeed. As mentioned, find the right balance and take it from there. I play with a OHBH and like my racquets at 6pts HL (I am also used to play with a 330+ SW for more than 25 years), but this is just a personal preference if not a habit. A mate of mine is crushing OHBHs with an evenly balanced racquet with a 325 SW.
 
The Gravity Tour and Pro... Will report after a tournament match over the weekend. 100D and 97D on a demo waiting list! ✌
 
Rob2D said:
Hmmmmmm........ I might take a chance now and see. Or if anyone wants to sell a sparkly LeGads, let me know!
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The sparkly paint is nicer, but not a big deal either, IMO. I don't feel any difference between the first and latest release.
 
Décathlon France now has an online racket testing program, where you can test frames for 10 days and a fee 20-25€. I picked up a TR960 Control Tour 18x20 and its polar opposite, the TR930 Spin Pro. Here are the specs with overgrip :

Artengo TR960 Control Tour (18x20): 330.95g, 32.5cm, 316SW, 11.93TW, 148.45RW
Artengo TR930 Spin Pro : 328.34g, 32.6cm, 320SW, 13.25TW, 152.3RW

I got to play a bit over an hour today with both of them. The 960... it played exactly as you can expect from the specs : anemic. I'm glad I wasn't playing against big hitters, or it would have been a really long day out there. It's not even that headlight, which came as a surprise. At least that made hitting towards the bottom of the stringbed somewhat decent; too bad I'm not accurate enough to consistently hit there. I'll have to figure out where to add lead, but I don't have a lot of lead on hand and this racket needs it really bad. Since the racket isn't headlight at all relative to its swingweight, it's going to need to be heavy to be playable. We'll see what I can make of it. It feels like that this specific specimen is a bit of a dud, which is a shame.

The 930 was a departure from the rackets I usually play, since I mostly play 18x20 frames. I wanted to shake my habits; after all I have a Soft Drive that I quite like, and I really don't mind Pure Drive rackets. It came with the stock strings on it, and the launch angle was wild despite not having that much swingweight to it. Mid swings made balls fly easily high and past the baseline, but commitment to swinging fast made the balls comfortably drop in. I should really restring it; the strings didn't feel that loose, but perhaps I could tame the launch angle just with a fresh stringjob and not the factory worn out fishing line on it. I think there's a good racket in there if the launch angle can be tamed, pretty crisp and clean feeling, not uncomfortable. It won't really please purists however considering that it doesn't really have that thick graphite feel you get on older rackets (which my Soft Drive to some extent has), but I think there's a decent frame there for the intended target audience.
 
Lukhas said:
Décathlon France now has an online racket testing program, where you can test frames for 10 days and a fee 20-25€. I picked up a TR960 Control Tour 18x20 and its polar opposite, the TR930 Spin Pro. Here are the specs with overgrip :

Artengo TR960 Control Tour (18x20): 330.95g, 32.5cm, 316SW, 11.93TW, 148.45RW
Artengo TR930 Spin Pro : 328.34g, 32.6cm, 320SW, 13.25TW, 152.3RW

I got to play a bit over an hour today with both of them. The 960... it played exactly as you can expect from the specs : anemic. I'm glad I wasn't playing against big hitters, or it would have been a really long day out there. It's not even that headlight, which came as a surprise. At least that made hitting towards the bottom of the stringbed somewhat decent; too bad I'm not accurate enough to consistently hit there. I'll have to figure out where to add lead, but I don't have a lot of lead on hand and this racket needs it really bad. Since the racket isn't headlight at all relative to its swingweight, it's going to need to be heavy to be playable. We'll see what I can make of it. It feels like that this specific specimen is a bit of a dud, which is a shame.

The 930 was a departure from the rackets I usually play, since I mostly play 18x20 frames. I wanted to shake my habits; after all I have a Soft Drive that I quite like, and I really don't mind Pure Drive rackets. It came with the stock strings on it, and the launch angle was wild despite not having that much swingweight to it. Mid swings made balls fly easily high and past the baseline, but commitment to swinging fast made the balls comfortably drop in. I should really restring it; the strings didn't feel that loose, but perhaps I could tame the launch angle just with a fresh stringjob and not the factory worn out fishing line on it. I think there's a good racket in there if the launch angle can be tamed, pretty crisp and clean feeling, not uncomfortable. It won't really please purists however considering that it doesn't really have that thick graphite feel you get on older rackets (which my Soft Drive to some extent has), but I think there's a decent frame there for the intended target audience.
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IMO, the tr960 16m is a platform racquet and the same might apply to the 18m. i know you said you have limited lead on hand. IIRC, I have lead at 3/9/12 and a leather grip. Strung SW was in the 320s
 
djNEiGht said:
IMO, the tr960 16m is a platform racquet and the same might apply to the 18m. i know you said you have limited lead on hand. IIRC, I have lead at 3/9/12 and a leather grip. Strung SW was in the 320s
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It's not so much that it's a platform racket, but relative to the targeted manufacturer specs, the balance is not headlight enough by roughly a whole centimetre, which is quite a bit off specs. It limits options a bit when it comes to customization.

For now, I've added some of those Tourna H-pattern power strips which are 3 grams each (they really don't stick that well to that paint) , some protective tape, a leather grip picked up from one of my other frames and some tungsten putty in the buttcap. The racket is around 349g, 32.3cm, and 333 SW. We'll see how it goes.
 
Lukhas said:
For now, I've added some of those Tourna H-pattern power strips which are 3 grams each (they really don't stick that well to that paint) , some protective tape, a leather grip picked up from one of my other frames and some tungsten putty in the buttcap. The racket is around 349g, 32.3cm, and 333 SW. We'll see how it goes.
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Those lead H-Power Strips suck! They are too thick and too narrow and don't stick well. Make sure you get regular lead strips/tape. They're day and night better (and aesthetically also).
 
konstantinos kalfountzos said:
Those lead H-Power Strips suck! They are too thick and too narrow and don't stick well. Make sure you get regular lead strips/tape. They're day and night better (and aesthetically also).
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They hold up fine on my 6.1s Team, but they slid all over the place today. I'll put some adhesive tape to keep it in place.

I restrung the Spin Pro with BHS7T at 23kg. It played pretty well: the high launch angle still was there but with fresh strings it was very controllable. Could be a bit meatier though, but it hit a much nicer ball than its swingweight would suggest on face value. That being said I was playing on clay and I guess it helped a bit. Everything was fine until I hit near the top of the frame one too many times and broke the freshly strung racket right there, right in the middle. Not quite my style of racket, but I see what it brings to the table.

I also used the Control Tour. It played fine; I was a bit worried about the fairly low twistweight, but it didn't bother me and I haven't yet felt major instability off centre. It's a in the upper range of what I'd like in terms of weight though, and it'd be nice if there was less dead weight around the throat. I got caught out a few times by the low launch angle and haven't yet managed to consistently get a ball with more height over the net, even though I'm used to play with 18x20 rackets. I had to open up my forehand grip to get over the net more often. I'd have to play a bit more with it to see if I can get used to it. It could be the string as it doesn't seem to help, but I don't really feel like restringing it as it performed decently; just not quite what I'm used to.
 
My time with both Artengo rackets is coming to an end. I had restrung the TR 930 Spin Pro with one of Artengo's strings, the TA 930 Spin in 1.25mm gauge. It's a shaped co-poly, but without as noticeable as a shape as BHS7T. I was slightly bummed by not being able to find it in a thicker 1.30mm gauge at the Decathlon stores in my area. I think it would've suited the frame well. One of my younger practice partners who plays with a weighed up Pure Aero Lite really enjoyed it though, and I agree with him that it was a fine racket. Despite the more open pattern compared to his regular frame, he didn't seem to mind the launch angle as much as I did.

As the temperatures picked up slightly and thanks to the added weight, the TR960 Control Tour came alive nicely. It played really much more solidly than I would've expected, without as much flutter off-centre than I thought would be present. I still think that 348g is a bit over my weight range and that I would've probably preferred that the frame was more around 340g. I probably would've liked it a bit more with my usual string since the round co-poly paired with it (according to the test guidelines, it should be Artengo Power Pro in gauge 1.27mm) didn't grab the ball too much.
 
Lukhas said:
My time with both Artengo rackets is coming to an end. I had restrung the TR 930 Spin Pro with one of Artengo's strings, the TA 930 Spin in 1.25mm gauge. It's a shaped co-poly, but without as noticeable as a shape as BHS7T. I was slightly bummed by not being able to find it in a thicker 1.30mm gauge at the Decathlon stores in my area. I think it would've suited the frame well. One of my younger practice partners who plays with a weighed up Pure Aero Lite really enjoyed it though, and I agree with him that it was a fine racket. Despite the more open pattern compared to his regular frame, he didn't seem to mind the launch angle as much as I did.

As the temperatures picked up slightly and thanks to the added weight, the TR960 Control Tour came alive nicely. It played really much more solidly than I would've expected, without as much flutter off-centre than I thought would be present. I still think that 348g is a bit over my weight range and that I would've probably preferred that the frame was more around 340g. I probably would've liked it a bit more with my usual string since the round co-poly paired with it (according to the test guidelines, it should be Artengo Power Pro in gauge 1.27mm) didn't grab the ball too much.
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May be a bit of a silly question, the one you ended up liking in the end was the 16x19 pattern? Over the 18x20?

Glad to hear despite that despite the weight it still felt like a good stick. Where did you end up putting the weight?
 
Give me two weeks and I will let you know. I purchased two 16x19s yesterday while travelling in France. For the 18x20 4g at 12 and 3-4g at 3&9 + leather grip.
 
snr said:
May be a bit of a silly question, the one you ended up liking in the end was the 16x19 pattern? Over the 18x20?

Glad to hear despite that despite the weight it still felt like a good stick. Where did you end up putting the weight?
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There were two different rackets, the 930 Spin Pro and the 960 Control Tour. I haven't tried the 16x19 version of the Control Tour. I'm so used to 18x20 that I didn't even think about it, even though in hindsight I do realise I could have tried three rackets instead of two.

I put 6 grams at 3&9 o'clock, the protective tape added a further 2 grams at noon, and five grams in the handle as the base grip is pretty heavy.
 
I'm now demoing both 18x20 and 16x19 versions side by side. I wonder if I'll be able to pick up the difference; I might have to restring them. Stock without OG, they're not that far off in terms of specs. I'm going to straight add a bunch of weight to them since I already know how they play stock anyway...

Artengo TR960 Control Tour (18x20): 325.24g, 32.6cm, 311SW, 12.08TW.
Artengo TR960 Control Tour (16x19): 323.23g, 32.7cm, 306SW, 12.07TW.
 
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