Arthur Ashe Stadium - worst sports venue in America

tenisdecente

Hall of Fame
"Watching a top-50 player from 20 feet away is a far more rewarding experience than watching a top-fiver obliterate some qualifier from a distance where you can hardly hear the ball come off the racket."

I have to agree with this and I experienced it at Miami Masters. I loved the Nadal-Federer final because it was like a dream come true but I was far from them. What I most enjoyed was the Kohli-Fritz match, as well the Thiem-Coric meltdown and Kyrgios 130+ mph serves against Dzumhur. Because I was so near of them. I also enjoyed the Escobedo-Verdasco match, or even the Nishioka-Sock match (the little I watched it because the jap quitted due injury).
 

kabob

Hall of Fame
It has great architecture but I am not sure about architecture history. Most of the buildings are from not too long ago (relative to a London or Paris), right ?
Many of the buildings in New York predate not only the beginning of the United States but before New York was known as New York and was still New Amsterdam. Many newer buildings have been constructed in the style of that period, too.

https://ny.curbed.com/2014/5/5/10103614/see-11-centuries-old-remnants-of-new-amsterdam-in-nyc
 
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kabob

Hall of Fame
Why'd they change it? I can't say. People just liked it better that way.
The Dutch ceded control of the colony to the British empire and it was renamed New York in honor of the Duke of York who financed the invasion effort to wrest control.

Also, really? That song was dumb and awful like so many other things to come out of the 90s.
 

sportmac

Hall of Fame
Ash is no place to watch a tennis match unless you can afford a seat that is a good place to watch a tennis match. I can't afford those.
It really is enormous. Been there twice but no more.

I don't even go into the Citi Open stadium when literally a hundred feet away are the stadium courts where you can watch a match like you're standing next to a public court. You're that close.
 

Mr.Lob

Legend
do they have some really bad hotdogs there ? do they have at least some good fries ?
No crapp. I'm not a touring pro. I couldnt care less if the prima donnas have to take a lesser limo, or don't get the practice time they want. As a fan I want a good hot dog, fries, and ice cold nonflat beer for under $25. That and a decent seat...Im gold.
 
1 Mojito and a snack for $20...No thanks.

I eat a great breakfast before i go. From my pocket, an apple and some nuts, maybe a protein bar. Watch a ton of tennis, and drink a lot of overpriced bottled water.
Then, if i am there for a night session, i will grab a touristy meal on-site with friends and fam. If not, i am savin'it for some truly great food in queens, down in brooklyn, or back in the city.
 
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Firstservingman

Talk Tennis Guru
do they have some really bad hotdogs there ? do they have at least some good fries ?
Charging you $10 for a soggy, allegedly meat preparation in a carefully dry aged bread roll should be a Class I misdemeanour at the very least.
Sports venues are tragically guilty of this.
 
Charging you $10 for a soggy, allegedly meat preparation in a carefully dry aged bread roll should be a Class I misdemeanour at the very least.
Sports venues are tragically guilty of this.
Haha, the bread is dry aged, instead of the beef!

Overpriced. But The chargrilled burgers are actually fairly good at the US Open.
Roland Garros food is good, too.

But your misdemeanor logic works both ways. For me, it is a crime to eat on site if you can avoid it. So much better food out in the real world in a city like NY. Or even my house.
 

MasturB

Legend
I don't think it's a dump anymore.

After the roof has been built, aesthetically it looks very cool from bottom of the court to the ceiling. I'm still not used to the change of acoustics on TV.
 

SonnyT

Hall of Fame
Before the roof was built, Ashe hosted so many great matches; I thought it was the greatest tennis theater in the world. But the ill designed roof, with circulation and acoustical problems, ruined everything. Probably the best match since was Nadal-Thiem. Doesn't help that there hasn't been a Big3 USO match since 2013.
 

Swingmaster

Hall of Fame
Wimbledon center court is mostly attended by snobs. At least Arthur Ashe gets a decent amount of lower class citizens up there in the nosebleeds, even if they can't see. Having an extra 10,000 people making noise and getting to tell people they saw a big match isn't so bad.
 

weakera

G.O.A.T.
Ashe can be epic feeling in the crowd but there are just too many polite people for it to ever get truly loud and the acoustics are also not conducive to real noise because it's built to give everyone comfort/leg room. It's also small, relatively speaking, at 23,000 capacity.

The old Yankee Stadium and Shea Stadium would get infinitely louder because the upper decks were built on a borderline dangerous include/slant so the noise cascaded onto the field level. In addition to over twice the capacity of Ashe at roughly 55,000 each.
 
Ashe is a monstrosity , been once and wouldn’t ever go again not to mention no matter where you sit you need binoculars to even see what’s going on, people shouting and screaming inbetween play , people getting drunk and not caring what’s going on. Wimbledon does things right because everyone there wants to watch a Tennis Match and they are all respectful
 

Swingmaster

Hall of Fame
The chili-dog eating, overpriced-beer drinking NY Crowd is GOATY af :D

Their applause always seems a bit poorly timed, but they get around to it. It was probably pretty quiet for a few seconds after Nadal's fist pump, but then a huge roar finally came crashing down, followed by a ton of loud chatter.
 

MichaelNadal

Bionic Poster
Ashe is a monstrosity , been once and wouldn’t ever go again not to mention no matter where you sit you need binoculars to even see what’s going on, people shouting and screaming inbetween play , people getting drunk and not caring what’s going on. Wimbledon does things right because everyone there wants to watch a Tennis Match and they are all respectful
Boooorrrring :p
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
If the spectators can't see what's going on, they are not going to care about it. Getting drunk and screaming seems a better option.

Ashe is a monstrosity , been once and wouldn’t ever go again not to mention no matter where you sit you need binoculars to even see what’s going on, people shouting and screaming inbetween play , people getting drunk and not caring what’s going on. Wimbledon does things right because everyone there wants to watch a Tennis Match and they are all respectful
 
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I've been in town when it's on but I am not paying big bucks for tickets or paying to sit all the way up there. Even the 60$ day ticket is a real rip off imo. Considering the price of food and drinks etc will be high. They have these big screens round the city where you can sit and watch it with a bodega coffee lol.
 

Kralingen

Legend
It's definitely expensive - as is basically everything in NYC - but I don't get the hate for the USO. I was able to see like 6 high level matches and have an amazing time pretty affordably.

I bought an Ashe day ticket (it grants access to every single court, including Ashe, during the day) and it was perfect for my needs. I'm not going to drop $300+ on a QF/SF match in Ashe but seeing Wawrinka-Sinner live was my favorite experience of the tournament and honestly for a tennis fan it's paradise. I didn't hate Ashe and still much prefer it to TV tennis but I do agree it's a cauldron. And if you sit far away, it can be difficult to see. But any of the other courts, even Louis Armstrong, are accessible and seeing high level tennis up close is worth it.
 

nachiket nolefam

Hall of Fame
Arthur Ashe looks amazing. It's huge. Night match atmosphere is amazing.

I was probably at row number 30 or something lol. And there were still 5/6 rows above.
 

King No1e

G.O.A.T.
"Watching a top-50 player from 20 feet away is a far more rewarding experience than watching a top-fiver obliterate some qualifier from a distance where you can hardly hear the ball come off the racket."

I have to agree with this and I experienced it at Miami Masters. I loved the Nadal-Federer final because it was like a dream come true but I was far from them. What I most enjoyed was the Kohli-Fritz match, as well the Thiem-Coric meltdown and Kyrgios 130+ mph serves against Dzumhur. Because I was so near of them. I also enjoyed the Escobedo-Verdasco match, or even the Nishioka-Sock match (the little I watched it because the jap quitted due injury).
Then again, watching in the middle of such a gargantuan stadium is also something of a religious experience. The way the shots and cheers echo through that giant arena is something every hardcore fan should experience at least once if they can.
 

NedStark

Semi-Pro
1997-2002 Arthur Ashe Stadium was excellent and better than any versions of Rod Laver Stadium except for the 2000 one.
 

ollinger

G.O.A.T.
The way the shots and cheers echo through that giant arena is something every hardcore fan should experience at least once if they can.
I wouldn't bother; feeling like you're a quarter mile from the action holds no particular appeal. Armstrong and the grandstand court are the larger venues of choice, and up close and personal out on the field courts is always enjoyable. We go every year and haven't bothered with Ashe for years. Ashe also, at least the first week, largely features non competitive matches between mismatched opponents.
 

Nadal_King

Hall of Fame
Arthur Ashe when packed has best Atmosphere in all of tennis!!!
When I was new to tennis I thought Us open would be biggest slam since it's US and we have that image of US being best at pretty much everything although not so
 
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