at a demo crossroad...need some help

Tide

New User
45 year old doubles player 4.5 level. I have always played 105-107 frames, but the older I get I am actually craving more CONTROL than pop. The pop has always been there for me with the 107's and had decent control...but something is missing even with poly at 57 lbs in my 107 Pure Drive. I have been on a LONG demo journey with various sticks but it is so tough with never knowing what I am going to get when I demo rackets at TW relative to stringing on the demos. Liked Gravity one day and hated it the next...same with the Aero. Need some help...just not sure where to go next.
 
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Have you tried different tension or different strings?

Lower tension or a softer more elastic string can get you more power in a racquet you are already comfortable with
 

ZanderGoga

Semi-Pro
If you're looking for more power than a PD 107, you're probably going to need to go to a specialty retailer like Weed Tennis in search of super oversize frames with ultra-thick profiles.
 

esgee48

G.O.A.T.
That is a major issue with demo frames. You don't really know what you are getting spec wise, string wise. I suggest using racquetfinder and see what is available. Another option is to buy a used frame, put your string of choice in, then play with it. If you don't like it, sell it. 3rd option is to change the string setup in your current frames to see if you can increase power that way. May I suggest you look at the PWR frames from Head?

edit: D A M N! I come back a day later and OP changed his wishes. Now he wants more control. I will change PWR to Prestige or Radical S.
 
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puppybutts

Rookie
45 year old doubles player 4.5 level. I have always played 105-107 frames, but the older I get I am actually craving more power than pop. The pop has always been there for me with the 107's and had decent control...but something is missing even with poly at 57 lbs in my 107 Pure Drive. I have been on a LONG demo journey with various sticks but it is so tough with never knowing what I am going to get when I demo rackets at TW relative to stringing on the demos. Liked Gravity one day and hated it the next...same with the Aero. Need some help...just not sure where to go next.
it's a little difficult to advise without more details. have you tried just lowering your string tension if you're looking for more power? when you say something is missing, what exactly is missing? just power? the gravity is a relatively low powered racket. are you looking for more control or spin? how quickly are you demoing these rackets? try to play the same racket for multiple days to get an average perspective of how you like the racket. liking a racket one day and hating it the next could simply be playing well one day and not having a good day the next. take notes on what exactly you like or dislike so you can reflect on if it was you or the racket and track what kind of things you gravitate toward. also, make sure you are demoing the rackets through different scenarios - it is quite hard to narrow down your choice just by hitting down the middle.

more than likely, it could be multiple rackets fulfill your need, in which case, one thing that can be helpful is picking the racket that highlights your strengths. so if you really want to focus on your net game, pick a racket that feels good at net (whether you crave stability, maneuverability, etc.) , or if you like your flat backhand and first serve, pick a racket that feels good on those shots.
 

Tide

New User
Have you tried different tension or different strings?

Lower tension or a softer more elastic string can get you more power in a racquet you are already comfortable with
I am tried a ton of set ups I have plenty of power just lost some control somehow
 

FlamingCheeto

Professional
as you get older SPIN >>>>> POWER. I'd definitely check out a 98 spin monster racquet at about 55lbs with a shaped poly, you'll never go back. Power doesn't stand a chance against consistent spin in the corners.
 

Tide

New User
it's a little difficult to advise without more details. have you tried just lowering your string tension if you're looking for more power? when you say something is missing, what exactly is missing? just power? the gravity is a relatively low powered racket. are you looking for more control or spin? how quickly are you demoing these rackets? try to play the same racket for multiple days to get an average perspective of how you like the racket. liking a racket one day and hating it the next could simply be playing well one day and not having a good day the next. take notes on what exactly you like or dislike so you can reflect on if it was you or the racket and track what kind of things you gravitate toward. also, make sure you are demoing the rackets through different scenarios - it is quite hard to narrow down your choice just by hitting down the middle.

more than likely, it could be multiple rackets fulfill your need, in which case, one thing that can be helpful is picking the racket that highlights your strengths. so if you really want to focus on your net game, pick a racket that feels good at net (whether you crave stability, maneuverability, etc.) , or if you like your flat backhand and first serve, pick a racket that feels good on those shots.
Sorry for the confusion! TYPO...I meant I am craving more control
 

beltsman

Legend
Sorry for the confusion! TYPO...I meant I am craving more control
Okay gotcha. The Pure Aero will have slightly less power than the 107 PD. But it will still have tons of power and spin. The Gravity is the opposite end of the spectrum. It is low powered and makes you do the work. For something in the middle, check out the Speed MP. For more power than Speed but more control than Aero, check out Extreme. The Speed has lower launch angle; the Extreme higher (like Pure Aero).
 
You're familiar with Babolats (grip shape, feel, etc). Why not try the regular Pure Drive. I know, this answer sounds boring, but it seems like the 1st logical step. If that turns out too much of a change, try the Pro Kennex ki 15 or the Volkl VFeel 7 or the Prince Phantom 107.
 

socallefty

Hall of Fame
I used to demo new model players racquets from TW for fun. Then, I started trying the same racquet from TW and from a local pro shop to see the effect of different strings. I realized quickly that the same racquet with different strings and tensions plays very differently especially when the number of hours of the string job in unknown and varies a lot too. Like you said, you can love or hate the same racquet depending on the string job.

Now, I‘ll buy a racquet with the specs, look and brand I like and then experiment with different strings and tensions till I tune it to be exactly what I like. Beats being down the rabbit hole of perpetual demos looking for the perfect stick.
 

Lorenn

Professional
45 year old doubles player 4.5 level. I have always played 105-107 frames, but the older I get I am actually craving more CONTROL than pop. The pop has always been there for me with the 107's and had decent control...but something is missing even with poly at 57 lbs in my 107 Pure Drive. I have been on a LONG demo journey with various sticks but it is so tough with never knowing what I am going to get when I demo rackets at TW relative to stringing on the demos. Liked Gravity one day and hated it the next...same with the Aero. Need some help...just not sure where to go next.
Which Gravity ?
What did you like or hate about the racquets? Two handed or one handed backhand?

Half step maybe a blade 104 or Gravity S.
Full Step Speed MP, Radical MP, Extreme MP, Prince Textreme Tour 290, 310, Maybe Gravity Tour Pure Aero.
Double Step Gravity Pro
 

Anton

Legend
45 year old doubles player 4.5 level. I have always played 105-107 frames, but the older I get I am actually craving more CONTROL than pop. The pop has always been there for me with the 107's and had decent control...but something is missing even with poly at 57 lbs in my 107 Pure Drive. I have been on a LONG demo journey with various sticks but it is so tough with never knowing what I am going to get when I demo rackets at TW relative to stringing on the demos. Liked Gravity one day and hated it the next...same with the Aero. Need some help...just not sure where to go next.
2019 PA or Clash 100 should be your answer.

I know you've tried "Aero" which I assume is 2019 PA, but I think with the right stringjob it will work for you.
 

kailash

Professional
45 year old doubles player 4.5 level. I have always played 105-107 frames, but the older I get I am actually craving more CONTROL than pop. The pop has always been there for me with the 107's and had decent control...but something is missing even with poly at 57 lbs in my 107 Pure Drive. I have been on a LONG demo journey with various sticks but it is so tough with never knowing what I am going to get when I demo rackets at TW relative to stringing on the demos. Liked Gravity one day and hated it the next...same with the Aero. Need some help...just not sure where to go next.
I would recommend demoing:
Head Microgel Radical OS
ProKennex Q+5 or Q+5 Pro
Volkl V1 MP
Prince Phantom 100X 18x20

Those all are very arm friendly and offer good control.
 

Tide

New User
Okay gotcha. The Pure Aero will have slightly less power than the 107 PD. But it will still have tons of power and spin. The Gravity is the opposite end of the spectrum. It is low powered and makes you do the work. For something in the middle, check out the Speed MP. For more power than Speed but more control than Aero, check out Extreme. The Speed has lower launch angle; the Extreme higher (like Pure Aero).
The Speed is on my list next!
 

Tide

New User
Which Gravity ?
What did you like or hate about the racquets? Two handed or one handed backhand?

Half step maybe a blade 104 or Gravity S.
Full Step Speed MP, Radical MP, Extreme MP, Prince Textreme Tour 290, 310, Maybe Gravity Tour Pure Aero.
Double Step Gravity Pro
2 hand backhand. Gravity MP with the new colors. I loved the Gravity MP at first...but made terrible pinging sound when I demoed it again from TW. The Aero was just ok...maybe not enough control to make me want to switch frames? I think TW had RPM blast in it.
 

Tide

New User
You're familiar with Babolats (grip shape, feel, etc). Why not try the regular Pure Drive. I know, this answer sounds boring, but it seems like the 1st logical step. If that turns out too much of a change, try the Pro Kennex ki 15 or the Volkl VFeel 7 or the Prince Phantom 107.
The regular PD was ok but did not love it compared to my 107. Funny that you should mention the Prince 107...I have been thinking about trying that one too! Thx!
 

Anton

Legend
What would your string these 2 with....thanks!
PA likes thick shaped poly. Try 16g RPM at 55 as baseline. Drop tension if you want more action/ softness or go to 15L guage for more control.

I personally have my weighted up PA strung at 55lbs with 15L shaped poly (like Diadem and smooth 16 cross like Kischerbaum Max Power.

Clash I would string lower with smooth poly - 50 lbs something like Alu Power or similar.
 
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