at what age do women stop looking at you

Idk, but looks aren't the only factor in attractiveness. I've seen plenty of men dating women who are out of their league looks wise. Confidence, being able to hold a conversation, taking care of yourself, not being an entitled jerk while respecting women, and being financially and emotionally stable are just as important to attracting women as looks are.
 
Sean is now 88 and the photo posted of him looking like a homeless bum was taken when he was 84. At age 67, he looked like this.
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Yes, I figured he was close to 90 in the other picture. Not bad for 67.
 
I also think that if you notice women staring at you, you might been staring at them as well ;)
Maybe the woman thinks, wth is that married man staring me?
Married men flirting w other women is something of the least attractive I know. As you know they are not good men and trustworthy.

Well, I'm dealing with the aftermath of cancer treatment, an important organ removed, the side-effects of radiation, chemo, perhaps permanent, and multiple surgeries, and surveillance for five years. I also have a demanding job. I hope to someday get back on the tennis court, maybe this year. So I have a lot on my mind and am generally preoccupied with making it to the next month. I actually thought I was going to die a few times this past week. Small bowel obstructions are incredibly painful and sometimes fatal.
 
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Is it important for you guys that women look at you regardless of age?

Personally, I don't care if men look at me or not. Or women for that matter.
 
Is it important for you guys that women look at you regardless of age?

Personally, I don't care if men look at me or not. Or women for that matter.

I have a female friend with MS and she had to take LT Disability. The MS is a side-effect of a chemotherapy drug that she took in the 1990s (it's no longer used). MS is where the electrical signaling from your brain to your muscles starts to fail so that you gradually lose control of muscles and you could imagine the effects of that. I try to provide whatever support I can via text and email. I haven't seen her since last winter - she spends a lot of time traveling to and from hospitals and we chat because some of the things that might be used to treat her have been things that I've already been through.

There are lots of relationships that are mostly online these days - I also a member of a couple of very large cancer support group forums. And you form relationships with people around the world - mostly to survive or to help others out with knowledge that you may have that they don't. In the vast majority of cases, nobody knows what anyone else looks like.
 
Well, I'm dealing with the aftermath of cancer treatment, an important organ removed, the side-effects of chemo, perhaps permanent, and multiple surgeries, and surveillance for five years. I also have a demanding job. I hope to someday get back on the tennis court, maybe this year. So I have a lot on my mind and am generally preoccupied with making it to the next month. I actually thought I was going to die a few times this past week. Small bowel obstructions are incredibly painful and sometimes fatal.
Thats terrible you felt were going to die!!
The aftermath of cancer is a topic that many not aware about. Wish you didnt have to work!

I think my non staring approach comes from my dad teaching me that. I was a blonde and staying south Italy me and my mother and 2 sisters got a lot of attention. My Italian father taught me how men were thinking and mens flirtations meant nothing good. It was also disturbing to feel I was looked at all the time. There men stop you on the streets to talk, specially if you look in their eyes, they its a higher chance they will make contact, which is awkward and I try to avoid that. Also if I dont look in their eyes I dont know if I am stared at or not.
 
You can say what you want, but do you expect to be believed as well, or don’t you care about that either? :unsure:

Ten years ago, I cared and I loved the attention. These days I don't give a flying fack about it. That's probably because relationships no longer interest so whether men look at me or not is totally irrelevant to me. I do like to look nice but I do it for myself only.

And I don't look at men at all. I am always minding my own business, you see.
 
Ten years ago, I cared and I loved the attention. These days I don't give a flying fack about it. That's probably because relationships no longer interest so whether men look at me or not is totally irrelevant to me. I do like to look nice but I do it for myself only.

And I don't look at men at all. I am always minding my own business, you see.
OK, just in case, I didn’t mean to sound rude.
 
I have a female friend with MS and she had to take LT Disability. The MS is a side-effect of a chemotherapy drug that she took in the 1990s (it's no longer used). MS is where the electrical signaling from your brain to your muscles starts to fail so that you gradually lose control of muscles and you could imagine the effects of that. I try to provide whatever support I can via text and email. I haven't seen her since last winter - she spends a lot of time traveling to and from hospitals and we chat because some of the things that might be used to treat her have been things that I've already been through.

There are lots of relationships that are mostly online these days - I also a member of a couple of very large cancer support group forums. And you form relationships with people around the world - mostly to survive or to help others out with knowledge that you may have that they don't. In the vast majority of cases, nobody knows what anyone else looks like.

Yes, life can be harsh and it is for many. I have lost half of my family to cancer and other diseases so I know. That's why I always tell others to not take things for granted whatever those are. Even the air that we breathe we should be grateful for.

Sorry to hear about your conditions and your friends'. Sometimes a small gesture can go such a long way.

Looks are just superficial stuff. Part of social structure etc. Being healthy is far more important. If I am going to live a long life then I want to make sure I am very healthy. I want to die with a bang and not in some hospital bed (or so I wish). But I think my death would be a very peaceful one.
 
OK, just in case, I didn’t mean to sound rude.

I didn't think you're rude. You can relax now. :)

I have a guy friend at work and I know he is interested in me and my friends at work always go ga-ga over him and always tell me how cute and good looking he is, but to be honest, I have not looked at him that way so how good looking he is, is just beyond me. In fact, never once it crossed my mind to look at him any other way than just a friend, although I am aware of his liking of me. But I am careful not to go down that road so I keep things very general - like go out as a group rather than just with him alone. Do not want to give him a chance to ruin our friendship.

It's just very liberating for me, you see and that's far more important. Relationships and good looks - they bore me to death these days.
 
Thats terrible you felt were going to die!!
The aftermath of cancer is a topic that many not aware about. Wish you didnt have to work!

I think my non staring approach comes from my dad teaching me that. I was a blonde and staying south Italy me and my mother and 2 sisters got a lot of attention. My Italian father taught me how men were thinking and mens flirtations meant nothing good. It was also disturbing to feel I was looked at all the time. There men stop you on the streets to talk, specially if you look in their eyes, they its a higher chance they will make contact, which is awkward and I try to avoid that. Also if I dont look in their eyes I dont know if I am stared at or not.

What millennials do is wear headphones and sunglasses. They may or not actually be listening to anything but it allows them to ignore people talking to them and the sunglasses hide where they are looking.
 
I also think that if you notice women staring at you, you might been staring at them as well ;)
Maybe the woman thinks, wth is that married man staring me?
Married men flirting w other women is something of the least attractive I know. As you know they are not good men and trustworthy.

Blaming the victim?
 
Blaming the victim?
Not sure who you refer as a victim? I dont see any victims in that post? Would you like if your partner stared at men while she walked w you?
Its just hard for me to believe that women feel more lust for married men than others. I know kids can be a "babe magnet".
Are you referring to the poster that had cancer as a victim? How could I know he was that ill?
Maybe you are right you do get more stared at as a married man, I wouldnt do it though in respect for both of you. Probably me thats abnormal? Im sorry if i misunderstood and offended anyone.
 
when you look like you have the face of a 30 year old?

im early 20s in biological age but look damn old. the UVs too much in australia.

don't attract the eyes of women anymore. not that i was handsome to begin with but now it feels non-existent

Its often not an age thing or even a biological looks thing really. I'm in my 20s and people generally ignore me, but thats because I'm very introverted and quiet. I don't know what you mean by "attracting eyes" but if you expect women to walk up to you without you initiating it... I don't know I've never had that happen to me, I've never even really seen that happen to anyone in casual settings.
 
when you look like you have the face of a 30 year old?

im early 20s in biological age but look damn old. the UVs too much in australia.

don't attract the eyes of women anymore. not that i was handsome to begin with but now it feels non-existent

If it's important to you then you can take several steps towards; that is, if you have the means for it. Live in some other country where the sun doesn't do as much damages. Perhaps move to a cooler country, use plenty sunscreen, eat foods that help your skin, use a really good moisturizer (like NiveaQ10) after shower each time, drink plenty water and sleep really well.

Work on other things too like your physical body to make it more attractive. Change your character. You can walk a certain way, talk a certain way. Make your personality charming and dashing. Smell nice etc. Women will notice these things. Even a few changes can go a very long way. And you've got time on your side. Why not give it a shot? You can turn things around.
 
skin care products actually work...?

Of course they do. Just use one of those good ones even if they are expensive and avoid the sun as much as possible. I tend to wear long sleeves during the summer and I prefer to go to the beach in the evening when the sun is setting.

Sun light ages your skin much faster than anything else. That’s why I prefer not to expose myself too much but I do take vitamin D on a regular basis and double the amount in winter.

I also drink a lot of water and eat lots of vegetables and fruits that are low in sugar. They tend to hydrate my skin enough. I also avoid too hot water when I shower or wash my hands even though I am from Canada.

I am just giving you tips so that you can protect your skin. Trust me, you can turn things around if this is important to you.
 
Its often not an age thing or even a biological looks thing really. I'm in my 20s and people generally ignore me, but thats because I'm very introverted and quiet. I don't know what you mean by "attracting eyes" but if you expect women to walk up to you without you initiating it... I don't know I've never had that happen to me, I've never even really seen that happen to anyone in casual settings.
Ive had men talking to me on the street, strangers, of course 99% of men that would do something like that I think is crazy. Also if I go out on bars of course men come and talk, men are drunk and fake confident, not nice to meet like that at all for me. In bars I am busy with my friends I go out w. I can like to go to male gay bars to not get the hassle from men as it takes precious time away from the time I have w my friends. In London I felt men too much time I just said I was married and had a fake ring. I also dont go into strangers private sphere and try to make contact.

If you want contact, do it more clever if you are serious. That is much more appreciated. Its not common women would make contact with strangers and those kind of women I would get very sceptical about.

If you want to meet women, join some meetup groups, get a hobby. Get to learn them gradually in your own speed and hers as well. Try to have fun at the same time doing something that is inspirering for your life!
 
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American woman in Italy. Famous photo.

She seems to be in a hurry! Do you think she is looking back at all those men? Nope. She just want to get away from there.
 
Would you like if your partner stared at men while she walked w you?
Its just hard for me to believe that women feel more lust for married men than others.

Most people want what they can’t have. I’ve seen guys hit on my girl friends harder when they say they have a bf. I’ve also had girls pursue me more aggressively if they see me with another girl. Not all men and women do it but in my experience most do. I’m the same as you I lose interest if I find out a girl I like is taken


Third one down that whole interview is hilarious. She can barely control herself
 
What was most shocking to me was the number of women who would stare at me, once I was married. Not sure why. . . is marriage a seal of approval, meaning, that guy's not whacky or dangerous? I don't know. It was unpleasant.

That's exactly it.

It conveys that you have some degree of status, and are somewhat reliable, or else you'd be alone.

I also think that if you notice women staring at you, you might been staring at them as well ;)
Maybe the woman thinks, wth is that married man staring me?
Married men flirting w other women is something of the least attractive I know. As you know they are not good men and trustworthy.

There's also this.

You are more attractive as a married guy, because of the aforementioned qualities the ring conveys...but then if you flirt like a single guy, you're a creep.

Well, I'm dealing with the aftermath of cancer treatment, an important organ removed, the side-effects of radiation, chemo, perhaps permanent, and multiple surgeries, and surveillance for five years. I also have a demanding job. I hope to someday get back on the tennis court, maybe this year. So I have a lot on my mind and am generally preoccupied with making it to the next month. I actually thought I was going to die a few times this past week. Small bowel obstructions are incredibly painful and sometimes fatal.

Sorry to hear this man. My wife is a cancer survivor and lost the ability to have children. It has crushed us. Thank God we got one good child (an accident) before it happened. But it has changed everything.
 
That's exactly it.

It conveys that you have some degree of status, and are somewhat reliable, or else you'd be alone.



There's also this.

You are more attractive as a married guy, because of the aforementioned qualities the ring conveys...but then if you flirt like a single guy, you're a creep.



Sorry to hear this man. My wife is a cancer survivor and lost the ability to have children. It has crushed us. Thank God we got one good child (an accident) before it happened. But it has changed everything.
I don’t find married men more attractive. I’m not sure most women think like you say.
But I like a bit of adventurous men so that can be the reason. Many married men seem controlled by their wife maybe and losing their “glow”.
 
Most people want what they can’t have. I’ve seen guys hit on my girl friends harder when they say they have a bf. I’ve also had girls pursue me more aggressively if they see me with another girl. Not all men and women do it but in my experience most do. I’m the same as you I lose interest if I find out a girl I like is taken



Third one down that whole interview is hilarious. She can barely control herself

First of all women that would make contact like that from the beginning can’t be right in their head.
Women that would go and try to hit on strange men, what kind of women is that? On married men?
What a waste of time and it’s cruel as well since it makes his partner uncomfortable. Maybe it’s that what these women want, make the wife feel sad.

My point is, get stared at from strangers isn’t something that is leading to anything good and those people doing that probably people to stay away from anyway.

It’s ok not to be stared at. It’s not something that will make you happy in the long run. Don’t feel bad if you don’t get attention from strangers!
 
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Of course they do. Just use one of those good ones even if they are expensive and avoid the sun as much as possible. I tend to wear long sleeves during the summer and I prefer to go to the beach in the evening when the sun is setting.

Sun light ages your skin much faster than anything else. That’s why I prefer not to expose myself too much but I do take vitamin D on a regular basis and double the amount in winter.

I also drink a lot of water and eat lots of vegetables and fruits that are low in sugar. They tend to hydrate my skin enough. I also avoid too hot water when I shower or wash my hands even though I am from Canada.

I am just giving you tips so that you can protect your skin. Trust me, you can turn things around if this is important to you.

Vitamin D3 deficiencies are common in areas further from the equator - if you're not getting enough from sunlight, then supplements are the way to go. It may not be a bad idea to get your levels checked. Some people have difficulty absorbing it due to genetic conditions.
 
Vitamin D3 deficiencies are common in areas further from the equator - if you're not getting enough from sunlight, then supplements are the way to go. It may not be a bad idea to get your levels checked. Some people have difficulty absorbing it due to genetic conditions.

I had it. likely still do-but I cannot take the supplements due to the crap they put in them.
 
Sorry to hear this man. My wife is a cancer survivor and lost the ability to have children. It has crushed us. Thank God we got one good child (an accident) before it happened. But it has changed everything.

A lot of folks with my kind of cancer can't have kids or anything else after treatment. Radiation can damage tissue, skin and organs - I think that women have it worse because there are more organs that can be damaged. Things can get damaged after surgery too. There's been a big increase of Cervical cancer among young women (I had a long chat with a nurse during my last stay) and she says that women are usually crushed when they find out that they can't have kids. Cancer is horrible stuff.
 
First of all women that would make contact like that from the beginning can’t be right in their head.
Women that would go and try to hit on strange men, what kind of women is that? On married men?
What a waste of time and it’s cruel as well since it makes his partner uncomfortable. Maybe it’s that what these women want, make the wife feel sad.

My point is, get stared at from strangers isn’t something that is leading to anything good and those people doing that probably people to stay away from anyway.

It’s ok not to be stared at. It’s not something that will make you happy in the long run. Don’t feel bad if you don’t get attention from strangers!

My main tennis partner lost his long-time girlfriend (she wanted kids, he didn't) and went on the online dating community. He's handsome, owns his house, millionaire, athletic, can repair cars and appliances, teaches art and he's an engineer. I thought that he would have no problems but he did because he's short. He also told me that a lot of women out there are crazy - there are a lot of them that are single parents and are in some level of financial desperation. I suggested that he join a running club but he hates running. He eventually became suicidal so a bunch of us made sure to chat and be around him a lot.

One day, we were playing doubles and I noticed that he seemed really happy. I asked him what had happened and he found someone. And they've been together, traveling around the world for about 7 or 8 years. It might be easier when you don't focus on looks.

Men and women have dates via online services and this to me seems really dangerous and risky. It would seem to be easier to meet people in college, work, church, your running club or network of friends. And the stuff with STDs is crazy. Some of the increasing cancer is probably due to STDs. But there are risks with STDs in general outside of increased cancer risk.

And then there's the famous example of Marla Maples.
 
My main tennis partner lost his long-time girlfriend (she wanted kids, he didn't) and went on the online dating community. He's handsome, owns his house, millionaire, athletic, can repair cars and appliances, teaches art and he's an engineer. I thought that he would have no problems but he did because he's short. He also told me that a lot of women out there are crazy - there are a lot of them that are single parents and are in some level of financial desperation. I suggested that he join a running club but he hates running. He eventually became suicidal so a bunch of us made sure to chat and be around him a lot.

One day, we were playing doubles and I noticed that he seemed really happy. I asked him what had happened and he found someone. And they've been together, traveling around the world for about 7 or 8 years. It might be easier when you don't focus on looks.

Men and women have dates via online services and this to me seems really dangerous and risky. It would seem to be easier to meet people in college, work, church, your running club or network of friends. And the stuff with STDs is crazy. Some of the increasing cancer is probably due to STDs. But there are risks with STDs in general outside of increased cancer risk.

And then there's the famous example of Marla Maples.
I know two couples in my network that met on Tinder. Married and kids. Nice normal people. So online can be a good idea. I think that is better than for example meeting drunk out on town.
The ones I have ended up w and developed feelings for are men I have had contact with as friends first. Then later I can fall for that person. I have to sort of know the nature of a person first. With the one I had kids w it took me 7 years before I made the move.
So Tinder hasn’t been a huge success for me hahahaha
People are different and do this different ways. It’s no recipie.
To me the sex is very important so I think it’s a good thing to not date for ages but find out quick if compatable there. While for other women other things more important. I’ve tried to date rich men, very handsome men (models), successful, but this doesn’t help anything for me to feel passionate about the man, but that’s me. For women that wants security they would probably want a rich guy and that makes them happy and actally fall in love w that person. For me my feelings develop like it’s an energy or something. Almost feels supernatural when it happens. While others can be calculated, and that’s natural for them.
 
It's funny how many women say they like outgoing, adventurous men. . . and then once they find one to marry, work hard to bring him under their control and turn him into their personal large dog. Funny how there are "ladies' nights out" that women believe are perfectly fine to go to, and leave Old Joe at home. . . but if Old Joe and his friends want to have a beer and busllhit about local politics and sports. . . well, that's not allowed: the dog doesn't have that freedom. You and I often enough hear about whacky men who are controlling. . . but in my experience, women as a group are far more into controlling their husbands.
 
It's funny how many women say they like outgoing, adventurous men. . . and then once they find one to marry, work hard to bring him under their control and turn him into their personal large dog. Funny how there are "ladies' nights out" that women believe are perfectly fine to go to, and leave Old Joe at home. . . but if Old Joe and his friends want to have a beer and busllhit about local politics and sports. . . well, that's not allowed: the dog doesn't have that freedom. You and I often enough hear about whacky men who are controlling. . . but in my experience, women as a group are far more into controlling their husbands.

Part of marriage - you don't get everything that you want but you think that you can make changes in the other person to get there or something close to there. So we try - and some things you can change and some things you can't - and then at some point, you stop trying to change them and work around the remaining issues.
 
It's funny how many women say they like outgoing, adventurous men. . . and then once they find one to marry, work hard to bring him under their control and turn him into their personal large dog. Funny how there are "ladies' nights out" that women believe are perfectly fine to go to, and leave Old Joe at home. . . but if Old Joe and his friends want to have a beer and busllhit about local politics and sports. . . well, that's not allowed: the dog doesn't have that freedom. You and I often enough hear about whacky men who are controlling. . . but in my experience, women as a group are far more into controlling their husbands.

That is the result of biology and evolution, when females of many species (but not all) needed males to take care of them and the kids.

Nowadays, the number of women who prefer to be single is increasing, and that is because it is possible these days.
 
Ive had men talking to me on the street, strangers.. not get the hassle from men as it takes precious time away from the time I have w my friends..... In London I felt men too much time I just said I was married and had a fake ring.

But you'd agree that its different for you because your not a man right? Otherwise my post is wrong and the OP has passed some sort of looks barrier because all strangers have to go off of is looks and he isn't getting attractive eyes anymore.
 
But you'd agree that its different for you because your not a man right? Otherwise my post is wrong and the OP has passed some sort of looks barrier because all strangers have to go off of is looks and he isn't getting attractive eyes anymore.
If he was looking very strange he would be stared at! Like my son when he was was small saying out loud and pointing: Look at that fat man! Or: What is he having in his face, mum? (lots of acne)
People with disabilities are getting stared at, also people that look little different :)
So he cannot look that bad me thinks :)
Looking ordinary can be a blessing as people will not like you because of looks, same gender not see you as a competition and act bad to you out of jealously and such.
Maybe people are indeed looking without he noticing it? Maybe he has been little depressed lately and his perception is negative loaded? Why care about this anyway?
 
I don’t find married men more attractive. I’m not sure most women think like you say.
But I like a bit of adventurous men so that can be the reason. Many married men seem controlled by their wife maybe and losing their “glow”.

Let's be honest, when women meet a man for the first time, any attraction is tempered with apprehension:

"What if he's a psychopath?"
"What if he's broke?"
"What if he's a pervert?"
"What if he's asexual/micropenis?"

Etc.

The wedding ring takes away all those. It's a form of social proofing, at least the woman knows you're much less likely to be harboring a dark side or some nasty secret.

It's not an exact science but I know the women at my job feel more free/safe with me because they know I'm not trying to get in their pants. That makes them relaxed, and ends up in some of them being MORE attracted than they would have been if I were single.

Having a kid helps even more.
 
Let's be honest, when women meet a man for the first time, any attraction is tempered with apprehension:

"What if he's a psychopath?"
"What if he's broke?"
"What if he's a pervert?"
"What if he's asexual/micropenis?"

Etc.

The wedding ring takes away all those. It's a form of social proofing, at least the woman knows you're much less likely to be harboring a dark side or some nasty secret.

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After some life experience I know thats not the case, so I dont think like that. So many loser men are married. Men are men single or not. But I am very independent and like my own company so I dont see every man I meet as a potential life partner lol.
 
After some life experience I know thats not the case, so I dont think like that. So many loser men are married. Men are men single or not. But I am very independent and like my own company so I dont see every man I meet as a potential life partner lol.

The women who "think like that" aren't thinking at all. Simply observing and subconsciously reacting.

I take your point. None of this is exact or universal. But much of it is subconscious.
 
Of course they do. Just use one of those good ones even if they are expensive and avoid the sun as much as possible. I tend to wear long sleeves during the summer and I prefer to go to the beach in the evening when the sun is setting.

Sun light ages your skin much faster than anything else. That’s why I prefer not to expose myself too much but I do take vitamin D on a regular basis and double the amount in winter.

I also drink a lot of water and eat lots of vegetables and fruits that are low in sugar. They tend to hydrate my skin enough. I also avoid too hot water when I shower or wash my hands even though I am from Canada.

I am just giving you tips so that you can protect your skin. Trust me, you can turn things around if this is important to you.
I am just very, very ignorant of sikn care products...bad experiences probably because I've bought the stuff that aren'ts so good... which made me worse hoho.

I did end up buying the Q10 yesterday at your recommendation as well as have been eating healthier, so I am taking your tips to heart. Was just skeptical due to my own experiences
 
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