at what age do women stop looking at you

Let's be honest, when women meet a man for the first time, any attraction is tempered with apprehension:

"What if he's a psychopath?"
"What if he's broke?"
"What if he's a pervert?"
"What if he's asexual/micropenis?"

Answer to the last question should be easy to find out.

As to the first and third, there are now many online services available which will tell you if the guy has any convictions etc.
 
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Jesus, brutal! LOL!
 
There is a cynic inside me that thinks women want men for:

(a). physical protection
(b). paycheck
(c). someone they can talk to who is not in their female kaffee klatch; someone "safe" to talk at because he's not going to tell her friends what she says
(d) someone to fix the car, fix the house, be the yard man.
(e) if they have a son, to provide some "male influence," albeit in carefully measured, watered-down and mother-approved doses.
 
As a half american half filipino living in Cebu, I catch stares or glances a lot. Been having it happen to me since I was a kid. I know what they *say*, it's supposedly because I'm handsome. But it's hard for me to think that way, when I lived in the US for the first half of my life no one looked at me like that, so instead it just feels like I'm a freak living where I don't belong. I still catch stares from girls, usually drunk ones, and they'll actually be bold and try to strike up conversation on the sidewalk. But I usually ignore because I'm just way too awkward to speak to a human being on the sidewalk, plus I've got places to go. :P
 
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After some life experience I know thats not the case, so I dont think like that. So many loser men are married. Men are men single or not. But I am very independent and like my own company so I dont see every man I meet as a potential life partner lol.

A couple that hosted my wife while we were courting (she also took care of their children) met in a work environment. He was the CEO of a medium-sized company and she was his administrative assistant. She was previously married with one child. One thing led to another and she became pregnant. They got married and then had an additional child (so three altogether). At some point down the road, she went on a convention trip with another female friend of mine (single) and they went out to a club and the married woman went dancing. The single friend asked her if she should be doing this. One thing led to another of course. It turned out that the lady was good at hooking men. The couple got divorced but the lady wound up with an even bigger guy who was somewhat older than the first guy. The guy wound up marrying a rather conservative woman with four or five kids (widower I think).

You may want to marry someone that has high earning potential or that is earning a lot now in the present but a lot of these guys are workaholics to get there and you may have all of the nice things but not the time that you want.
 
As a half american half filipino living in Cebu, I catch stares or glances a lot. Been having it happen to me since I was a kid. I know what they *say*, it's supposedly because I'm handsome. But it's hard for me to think that way, when I lived in the US for the first half of my life no one looked at me like that, so instead it just feels like I'm a freak living where I don't belong. I still catch stares from girls, usually drunk ones, and they'll actually be bold and try to strike up conversation on the sidewalk. But I usually ignore because I'm just way too awkward to speak to a human being on the sidewalk, plus I've got places to go. :p

A couple of things moved me from being an introvert to being comfortable with most anyone:

- Five years of public-speaking training.
- Being a Church greeter for many years.
 
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Answer to the last question should be easy to find out.

As to the first and third, there are now many online services available which will tell you if the guy has any convictions etc.

Even the best of screening doesn't always work out well.

 
There is a cynic inside me that thinks women want men for:

(a). physical protection
(b). paycheck
(c). someone they can talk to who is not in their female kaffee klatch; someone "safe" to talk at because he's not going to tell her friends what she says
(d) someone to fix the car, fix the house, be the yard man.
(e) if they have a son, to provide some "male influence," albeit in carefully measured, watered-down and mother-approved doses.

Most of this is common knowledge lol. It's part of the deal, just how dudes are looking for a woman to open her legs and pick up their underwear and have dinner waiting on the table.
 
As a teen I remember all the beautiful people in high school.....the dudes who got all the girls and the girls who every guy wanted but was untouchable. I wasn't considered ugly but hardly got any attention but brushed it off because I thought my time would come someday.

I had a chance to go to my high school reunion a couple years ago and what did I discover? Most of the dudes I envied and the girls I thought was the beez kneez really didn't age well. I guess these people peaked in high school/college but has since let themselves go. It was amazing that some of the ladies remembered me as I wasn't popular by any means but I had lots of compliments by some of these women that I look pretty much the same and look really good for my age. I guess some people peak at a certain age and some age gracefully.

I was the shy awkward kid in high school that hardly got any looks but I have to say It felt pretty good to be looked at and complimented after all these years. Some guys said I must of had some work done or botox or whatever and I can honestly say I haven't had anything done. Lots of sunblock, and exercise (tennis) I guess is the fountain of youth. I remember as a youngster when tanning was the rage and I stayed away from the sun as I would get a terrible sunburn. I pretty much covered up when I played and I looked kind of overdressed but it has saved my skin all these years.

As a middle aged guy I honestly get more looks now from women than I did when I was young. As a teen I felt like a freak because I couldn't tan but now it seems to be a blessing in disguise.
 
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As a teen I remember all the beautiful people in high school.....the dudes who got all the girls and the girls who every guy wanted but was untouchable. I wasn't considered ugly but hardly got any attention but brushed it off because I thought my time would come someday.

I had a chance to go to my high school reunion a couple years ago and what did I discover? Most of the dudes I envied and the girls I thought was the beez kneez really didn't age well. I guess these people peaked in high school/college but has since let themselves go. It was amazing that some of the ladies remembered me as I wasn't popular by any means but I had lots of compliments by some of these women that I look pretty much the same and look really good for my age. I guess some people peak at a certain age and some age gracefully.

I was the shy awkward kid in high school that hardly got any looks but I have to say It felt pretty good to be looked at and complimented after all these years. Some guys said I must of had some work done or botox or whatever and I can honestly say I haven't had anything done. Lots of sunblock, and exercise (tennis) I guess is the fountain of youth. I remember as a youngster when tanning was the rage and I stayed away from the sun as I would get a terrible sunburn. I pretty much covered up when I played and I look kind of overdressed but it has saved my skin all these years.

As a middle aged guy I honestly get more looks now from women than I did when I was young. As a teen I felt like a freak because I couldn't tan but now it seems to be a blessing in disguise.
Do you have any photos from your HS reunion? Post your HS photo vs current photo.
 
After reading all posts above, it seems that people who play tennis indoors age better than those who play outdoors.
 
A couple that hosted my wife while we were courting (she also took care of their children) met in a work environment. He was the CEO of a medium-sized company and she was his administrative assistant. She was previously married with one child. One thing led to another and she became pregnant. They got married and then had an additional child (so three altogether). At some point down the road, she went on a convention trip with another female friend of mine (single) and they went out to a club and the married woman went dancing. The single friend asked her if she should be doing this. One thing led to another of course. It turned out that the lady was good at hooking men. The couple got divorced but the lady wound up with an even bigger guy who was somewhat older than the first guy. The guy wound up marrying a rather conservative woman with four or five kids (widower I think).

You may want to marry someone that has high earning potential or that is earning a lot now in the present but a lot of these guys are workaholics to get there and you may have all of the nice things but not the time that you want.
The one I was with for many years wanted to marry, but I turned it down. When the relationship was at its darkest I said yes, as if that was going to make it better. We planned a wedding south France in a castle with Michelin chefs and our families. My wedding dress was planned. Our mothers got into it too. He became very successfull while we were together as he developed some software. Thing is, he worked a lot. All the time. All he needed was internet. I took care of everything else. We had a child as well. I became a stockholder too, but my career was set on hold as I didnt have time for it. We moved and traveled the world together.
4 months before the wedding I left him. With him it wasnt possible for me to be happy as I couldnt express who I am.
So yeah, workaholics not something I look for. I need the connection, making love and make something beautiful. Marriage isnt something i strife for. Im so glad I didnt marry him. If I marry it would be purely out of love and not practical reasons. The security I need I have to create myself.
Wish I was more calculated and less passionate :-D I could have really worked myself up in the grades :p I tried to see a relation as a business thing, but it makes me depressed. Some women can do it. Almost impressive how they are able to be like that. In love with money.
Its male golddiggers too! Not only women are like that.
 
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Wish I was more calculated and less passionate :-D I could have really worked myself up in the grades :p I tried to see a relation as a business thing, but it makes me depressed. Some women can do it. Almost impressive how they are able to be like that. In love with money.
Its male golddiggers too! Not only women are like that.

I'm sure that there are. One of my friends was married to one and he won't let go [of her assets]. But I don't know any of these kinds of folks personally. I do read of them too but I think that it's that similar people hang out with similar people.

I think that being calculating has a lot of benefits. Someone has to teach it though.
 
I'm sure that there are. One of my friends was married to one and he won't let go [of her assets]. But I don't know any of these kinds of folks personally. I do read of them too but I think that it's that similar people hang out with similar people.

I think that being calculating has a lot of benefits. Someone has to teach it though.
Plenty of male golddiggers in Silicon Valley. In London too!
I tried to be more calculated, but I cant. I think its hard for people from my culture to be a golddigger as we arent desperate. Ive seen Russian golddiggers, and I heard about it too, men having problems w them. From my culture its common to be independent and we see it as a bad thing to not have our own career and make our own money. My parents wouldnt be impressed if I married a rich guy and stopped working, they would feel sorry for me.
 
The one I was with for many years wanted to marry, but I turned it down. When the relationship was at its darkest I said yes, as if that was going to make it better. We planned a wedding south France in a castle with Michelin chefs and our families. My wedding dress was planned. Our mothers got into it too. He became very successfull while we were together as he developed some software. Thing is, he worked a lot. All the time. All he needed was internet. I took care of everything else. We had a child as well. I became a stockholder too, but my career was set on hold as I didnt have time for it. We moved and traveled the world together.
4 months before the wedding I left him. With him it wasnt possible for me to be happy as I couldnt express who I am.
So yeah, workaholics not something I look for. I need the connection, making love and make something beautiful. Marriage isnt something i strife for. Im so glad I didnt marry him. If I marry it would be purely out of love and not practical reasons. The security I need I have to create myself.
Wish I was more calculated and less passionate :-D I could have really worked myself up in the grades :p I tried to see a relation as a business thing, but it makes me depressed. Some women can do it. Almost impressive how they are able to be like that. In love with money.
Its male golddiggers too! Not only women are like that.

From what I can tell, there's a trend to apply an economic model to relationships, chiefly coming from political libertarians. They say women are out for money and men are out for sex, and it's all a transaction. Radically simplifies things to the point where, for me, it is unrecognizable as a full description. I think women also want sex and men also want money. Both often want stable families and children. More than this, they want the feeling of joy and fulfillment that we in life so rarely completely sense.
 
From what I can tell, there's a trend to apply an economic model to relationships, chiefly coming from political libertarians. They say women are out for money and men are out for sex, and it's all a transaction. Radically simplifies things to the point where, for me, it is unrecognizable as a full description. I think women also want sex and men also want money. Both often want stable families and children. More than this, they want the feeling of joy and fulfillment that we in life so rarely completely sense.

People see what they want to see.

8-)
 
The one I was with for many years wanted to marry, but I turned it down. When the relationship was at its darkest I said yes, as if that was going to make it better. We planned a wedding south France in a castle with Michelin chefs and our families. My wedding dress was planned. Our mothers got into it too. He became very successfull while we were together as he developed some software. Thing is, he worked a lot. All the time. All he needed was internet. I took care of everything else. We had a child as well. I became a stockholder too, but my career was set on hold as I didnt have time for it. We moved and traveled the world together.
4 months before the wedding I left him. With him it wasnt possible for me to be happy as I couldnt express who I am.
So yeah, workaholics not something I look for. I need the connection, making love and make something beautiful. Marriage isnt something i strife for. Im so glad I didnt marry him. If I marry it would be purely out of love and not practical reasons. The security I need I have to create myself.
Wish I was more calculated and less passionate :-D I could have really worked myself up in the grades :p I tried to see a relation as a business thing, but it makes me depressed. Some women can do it. Almost impressive how they are able to be like that. In love with money.
Its male golddiggers too! Not only women are like that.
Sounds like a romance novel. So because its a page turner what happened to the guy?
 
Sounds like a romance novel. So because its a page turner what happened to the guy?
He is still single, works a lot. He got problems w golddiggers and cant trust anyone. Probably more lonely than ever. He is shopping all kinds of stuff to make himsel happy, has a studio at home where he makes electronical music when he doesn’t work. His identity and career are bound together, that’s his life. He is not so healthy without me so he gained weight. He is younger than me but his body older than mine. Not sure how he gets sex, maybe escorts? I don’t know. I think he is too introverted for that. I hope he finds a nice girl, he needs that.

I speak to him sometimes. He likes my family so he speaks w them too, specially my mother he likes a lot. I don’t have contact w his family anymore.
 
He is still single, works a lot. He got problems w golddiggers and cant trust anyone. Probably more lonely than ever. He is shopping all kinds of stuff to make himsel happy, has a studio at home where he makes electronical music when he doesn’t work. His identity and career are bound together, that’s his life. He is not so healthy without me so he gained weight. He is younger than me but his body older than mine. Not sure how he gets sex, maybe escorts? I don’t know. I think he is too introverted for that. I hope he finds a nice girl, he needs that.

I speak to him sometimes. He likes my family so he speaks w them too, specially my mother he likes a lot. I don’t have contact w his family anymore.
It's amazing how life works out sometimes. Tough to find the right person. Glad I was able to. Very lucky in that.
 
He started to like socialism? Jk:)
Do you mean a hypocrite socialist? Hiring cheap workforce from India, try to pay as little taxes as possible? Going around in BLM t-shirts and saying Trump sucks while can only sleep in Egyptian cotton, and have a music studio he only uses for himself worth 4 times the more than his workers getting paid? Now in a mid life crisis trying to be cool looking like a punk in Dr Martens and a crazy haircut and even tweeting about it?
:X3:
 
Do you mean a hypocrite socialist? Hiring cheap workforce from India, try to pay as little taxes as possible? Going around in BLM t-shirts and saying left wings are the best while can only sleep in Egyptian cotton, and have a music studio he only uses for himself worth 4 times the more than his workers getting paid? Now in a mid life crisis trying to be cool looking like a punk in Dr Martens and a crazy haircut and even tweeting about it?
Nailed it!:cool:
 
I also think that if you notice women staring at you, you might been staring at them as well ;)
Maybe the woman thinks, wth is that married man staring me?
Married men flirting w other women is something of the least attractive I know. As you know they are not good men and trustworthy.
Yes, behave as asexual at all times. When around women better to stare at your shoes then make eye contact.
 
It would be extremely difficult for me if I were a college man today.

I think I would look offcampus for female companionship. Things might be more realistic and genuine.
 
It would be extremely difficult for me if I were a college man today.

I think I would look offcampus for female companionship. Things might be more realistic and genuine.
I agree, you would have to video a date to protect yourself. Lol.
 
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It would be extremely difficult for me if I were a college man today.

I think I would look offcampus for female companionship. Things might be more realistic and genuine.

I've worked on a college campus since I graduated froma college campus (over 24 years now). The view is the same, but how I see them is all different now.

I have tons of friends in the 40+ range that end up divorced and go for younger partners. Very few times it works for very long, but sure they have fun and enjoy each other for what it is. Me, I could never consider anyone without similar life experience and goals overall. I certainly am not interested in someone still working up the ladder in their career while I am planning my retirement in a few. It would take an extraordinary young person to change that, and most likely not a snowballs chance in hell of it.
 
It would be extremely difficult for me if I were a college man today.

I think I would look offcampus for female companionship. Things might be more realistic and genuine.

It is difficult and really crappy. I live in the middle of nowhere and the only women close to me in age are at this college 25 minutes away from me. There are so many hurdles you have to jump through with college women.
 
when you look like you have the face of a 30 year old?

im early 20s in biological age but look damn old. the UVs too much in australia.

don't attract the eyes of women anymore. not that i was handsome to begin with but now it feels non-existent
A lot of women like tanned looking men. So, play a lot of tennis and beach volleyball.
 
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