ATG - numbers don't lie

pasta

Rookie
Winning counts ...

There are 4 Big Time Titles ...

Each one carries certain points/weight ...

Grand Slam - 2000
Masters - 1000
WTF - 1500
Olympics -2000 (?)

And between the "Big Three" ...

Federer - 75200
Djokovic - 76000
Nadal - 77000

Numbers do not lie !!!
 

NoleFam

Talk Tennis Guru
What about total points , ie including the points they get even when they don’t win the tournament?
Federer and Djokovic would move ahead imo since they have more deep runs than Nadal. They both have more QF and SF runs than him. Nadal has one more Slam final than Djokovic but he has like 4 more SFs and 5 more QFs.
 

BlueB

Legend
Winning counts ...

There are 4 Big Time Titles ...

Each one carries certain points/weight ...

Grand Slam - 2000
Masters - 1000
WTF - 1500
Olympics -2000 (?)

And between the "Big Three" ...

Federer - 75200
Djokovic - 76000
Nadal - 77000

Numbers do not lie !!!
I agree that using the official weighing is the best. However, the Olympics used to be 750 points, before being reduced to 0.
If we started adding points arbitrarily to them, we'd have to assign something to other achievements, too.
 

r2473

G.O.A.T.
Winning counts ...

There are 4 Big Time Titles ...

Each one carries certain points/weight ...

Grand Slam - 2000
Masters - 1000
WTF - 1500
Olympics -2000 (?)

And between the "Big Three" ...

Federer - 75200
Djokovic - 76000
Nadal - 77000

Numbers do not lie !!!
WTF should not be included

Olympics is worth 8,000. It's really worth 2,000 as you say, but only happens once every 4 years (4 X 2,000).

Could you please recalculate
 

pasta

Rookie
Why WTF should not be included ?

OK, let's take Olympics out ... I still believe that Olympic Gold Medal in Tennis do have some weight in ATG conversation.
 

r2473

G.O.A.T.
Why WTF should not be included ?

OK, let's take Olympics out ... I still believe that Olympic Gold Medal in Tennis do have some weight in ATG conversation.
WTF is an exho.

Leave Olympics in. Just increase to the true value.
 

pasta

Rookie
WTF is an exho.

Leave Olympics in. Just increase to the true value.
OK, what is the "true value" of Olympic Gold ?

I still think that it has a very good value ?

WTF exho ?

I think it carries certain weight, player has to beat at least 3 top 10 players in a tournament to win it ... counts for something, no ?
 

r2473

G.O.A.T.
OK, what is the "true value" of Olympic Gold ?

I still think that it has a very good value ?

WTF exho ?

I think it carries certain weight, player has to beat at least 3 top 10 players in a tournament to win it ... counts for something, no ?
Zverev and Dimitrov won WTF. WTF?

Olympics worth 8,000. At least 5,000.

LMAO @ Olympic = 2000
See, you have to increase the value for Olympics
 

BlueB

Legend
WTF should not be included

Olympics is worth 8,000. It's really worth 2,000 as you say, but only happens once every 4 years (4 X 2,000).

Could you please recalculate
It's a lot harder to qualify for the WTF than Olympics. For one you have to play well whole year and end up in top 8. You get to the other by a country quota. There are several examples where the winner of the Olympics hasn't ever been able to qualify for the WTF.
 

NonP

Hall of Fame
Numerology should be more fun than this.

P.S. Tennis shouldn't be an Olympic sport. Ditto football/soccer, basketball, baseball, golf, etc. (Ice hockey is an exception 'cause, well, the Winter Os need their own marquee team event. No, curling doesn't count.) Let less heralded sports enjoy their spotlight for a change.
 

blablavla

Legend
Winning counts ...

There are 4 Big Time Titles ...

Each one carries certain points/weight ...

Grand Slam - 2000
Masters - 1000
WTF - 1500
Olympics -2000 (?)

And between the "Big Three" ...

Federer - 75200
Djokovic - 76000
Nadal - 77000

Numbers do not lie !!!
last time I checked ATP results, they say:
2016 Nadal received ZERO points for Olympic Gold
2012 Murray received 750 points for Olympic Gold

how do you jump from this to 2000 points is a mystery to me.
 

CYGS

Legend
Winning counts ...

There are 4 Big Time Titles ...

Each one carries certain points/weight ...

Grand Slam - 2000
Masters - 1000
WTF - 1500
Olympics -2000 (?)

And between the "Big Three" ...

Federer - 75200
Djokovic - 76000
Nadal - 77000

Numbers do not lie !!!
Olympics - 0 or 750 points, so Nadal actually scores 75000 or 75750, 3rd or 2nd. Numbers do not lie, agreed.
 

thrust

Hall of Fame
Winning counts ...

There are 4 Big Time Titles ...

Each one carries certain points/weight ...

Grand Slam - 2000
Masters - 1000
WTF - 1500
Olympics -2000 (?)

And between the "Big Three" ...

Federer - 75200
Djokovic - 76000
Nadal - 77000

Numbers do not lie !!!
Olympics- 0
 

taster

New User
numbers don't lie but they are arbitrarily given to the tournaments. Why does winning a Slam have twice as many points as a Masters, why not 3 times as many or 5 times as many.
I suspect that a person's IQ is the crucial number here
 
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