Djokovic_is_the_best#1
Bionic Poster
It’s meant to be for Novak. Hopefully wins Rome the perfect tonic to get over the us open disappointment!
ATP 1000: Italian Open 2020
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Arguably 5'8" but if we are willing to extend to that range there was this other 5'8" guy named Laver that apparently was pretty good, maybe even better than his buddy Rosewall who was an inch shorter.
MeatTornado
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Only lunatics would think he even has a chance of reaching the 2nd week in this pathetic form
Beckerserve
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Not sure either of their form matters. I have huge doubts FO will actually be completed. I wonder if both are a bit distracted. Not looking good in paris currently
Krish872007
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It will probably go ahead. RG organisers are too proud to cancel now.
Though they may be forced to make some concessions like getting rid of the crowds.
Meles
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Beckerserve
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Will the players want to play though as if they thought US Open was restrictive they will hate Paris
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TheNachoMan
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The French do have a history of giving up in tough times..
Sephiroth
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What? i don't even kno what that means
3fees
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PrinceMoron
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Should move FO to September permanently
NoleFam
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Well 43% to be exact which is still terrible but he hasn't played much and only in his 3rd match back so it's somewhat expected . I thought everybody was jumping the gun just because he thrashed a couple of players not playing a high enough level. Diego was the 1st real test and he can be beaten in these tuneups. He is still a heavy heavy favorite for RG and I expect to him play much better there. But in his 3rd match in months he is going to be rusty. Still, I couldn't resist asking you to analyze Nadal's game like you did Djokovic's earlier.
Im(moral) Winner
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StrongRule
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Why? It's a matter of reputation. Nadal has no chance against Thiem or Djokovic in RG this year, and if he loses in a semifinal or final he will hurt his legacy A LOT. Because from this moment he will not even be the most dominant player at a single slam. This will go to Djokovic for never losing in AO semifinal or final.
As great as Schwartzman played today, prime Nadal would find a way to beat him. Like he found against Gulbis in Rome 2013. Getting broken 3 times in a row in the second set is just inexcusable.
NoleFam
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Novak didn't look good today for big chunks of his match but I was more so talking about him saying that about USO Novak.
StrongRule
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ROFL. You want to join @Yugram and @Krish0608 or something? Is there a trolling competition which I didn't hear about?Well 43% to be exact which is still terrible but he hasn't played much and only in his 3rd match back so it's somewhat expected . I thought everybody was jumping the gun just because he thrashed a couple of players not playing a high enough level. Diego was the 1st real test and he can be beaten in these tuneups. He is still a heavy heavy favorite for RG and I expect to him play much better there. But in his 3rd match in months he is going to be rusty. Still, I couldn't resist asking you to analyze Nadal's game like you did Djokovic's earlier.
Beckerserve
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I like Novak so dont take any criticism i make of him as bashing him. Ill criticise Nadal as well. I know how amazing Novak can be but since lockdown he is way off that level.Well 43% to be exact which is still terrible but he hasn't played much and only in his 3rd match back so it's somewhat expected . I thought everybody was jumping the gun just because he thrashed a couple of players not playing a high enough level. Diego was the 1st real test and he can be beaten in these tuneups. He is still a heavy heavy favorite for RG and I expect to him play much better there. But in his 3rd match in months he is going to be rusty. Still, I couldn't resist asking you to analyze Nadal's game like you did Djokovic's earlier.
As for Rafa the serve does not worry me as that occasionally happens. I am.worried about his foot speed. He used to do little small steps like lightening but he is now taking long lurching movements which is not the way to move on clay. I felt that USO final v Medvedev really took a lot out of Nadal. I had hoped the enforced break would have helped but he looks slower. It could be the sands of time are running away from him.
Let us see if he goes to Paris. I would not be surprised if he doesnt. I have said that for weeks.
Krish872007
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Nad will win the next 3 Slams.
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I took you for somebody else. Well you could have answered sooner to make this situation less awkward.
GabeT
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Not saying Novak is playing his best but since the end of the lockdown he’s won 11 matches and the only one he lost so far was a DQ. I get he hasn’t played top 10 players but he’s done well so far. His days of winning and dominating everything are in the past.
Sephiroth
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I took you for somebody else. Well you could have answered sooner to make this situation less awkward.
you wrote to me with just one word "cinera?" wtf was I supposed to go on? lol
NoleFam
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Lol, stop it. Everyone here but you know Nadal is a big favorite win RG.
I Am Finnish
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Thanks to StrongRule and his clones
Beckerserve
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I still think he has another level to go to. His attacking play is outstanding. Its the defensive side that i feel has gone off but he still moves like a panther so i think he can go on a huge run again. Nadal the one who i think is looking like physically he may be declining.
a10best
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It's been known that all other red clay surfaces in Europe are faster than RG. His losses in these prep clay matches have happened before he wins the French. Still a great win for Diego but this does not translate to beating him at RG.
zvelf
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Congrats to Diego on his first win over Nadal, especially on clay.
Don't know what wrong with this forum that everyone is StrongRuling now, but it's an annoying trend. This loss doesn’t mean Nadal’s chances of winning Roland Garros are diminished. Nadal has lost Rome 4 times before and gone on to win the French. Last year Nadal lost several clay court matches on the way to Roland Garros and still won it.
Don't know what wrong with this forum that everyone is StrongRuling now, but it's an annoying trend. This loss doesn’t mean Nadal’s chances of winning Roland Garros are diminished. Nadal has lost Rome 4 times before and gone on to win the French. Last year Nadal lost several clay court matches on the way to Roland Garros and still won it.
StrongRule
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Based on WHAT? How he played there in the past is irrelevant. He got schooled by the first opponent who can actually play from the baseline. I'd say he isn't even relevant in RG anymore. Djokovic is a lock for the title.
StrongRule
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Last year he at least won Rome right before RG. The only year when he was coming into RG in real bad form and still won was 2014. Don't see him winning again though. That was 6 years ago.
Breakpointerer
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Nadal doesn't care about Masters anymore
zvelf
Hall of Fame
Saying the most dominant player ever at Roland Garros by a huge margin is the favorite to win it is not trolling. That's ridiculous.
NoleFam
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Djokovic won Cincy though, although he was shaky at times, and was pushed by some well playing opponents. By USO, he started playing much better so I just didn't see what you were seeing. Now he's not playing well in Rome so far, which I think is more so about the changing of surfaces, but if you were to say something wasn't right in his game here then I would agree; today in his 2nd set his timing was way off. But Rafa is not match tough, and he hasn't been pushed by difficult opponents until now. He also isn't getting any younger either, however, there is no way Nadal is not going to Paris.
StrongRule
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So if 49 years old Sampras comes back now he will be the favorite for Wimbledon? History is irrelevant. Only current form matters.
How will he have a tough time recovering? It was just 2 sets.
zvelf
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First, my larger point is saying something positive about a player you like is not trolling. Second, that analogy is bonkers. Nadal is 34, not 49, so comparing him to a 49 year old is nonsense.
Maybe they will cancel the FO "due to the virus" to spare Rafa an early exit????
Beckerserve
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They cannot afford to cancel it to start with. I do think Nadal may not go.
veroniquem
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Djoko is a lock at RG? I wish!
zvelf
Hall of Fame
With Rafa's best chance to tie Federer for most slams ever, there's no way Rafa will skip it if he's uninjured. His chances only decline from here on out.
Poisoned Slice
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I'm you, only a little more bizarre.
StrongRule
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Harry_Wild
G.O.A.T.
very well with Rafa, matches are always pretty close. 1st win for Schwartzman!
Rafa not very happy about that! No 10th Italian single title this year for Rafa!
Put him on notice that he will have to play outstanding to win another FO now!
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marc45
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"Because from this moment he will not even be the most dominant player at a single slam. This will go to Djokovic for never losing in AO semifinal or final."
help me Jesus!
Beckerserve
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I get your point but he is way off where he needs to be. He may want the full clay court calendar. The warning sign is Nadal saying he is Rome to see if he will be competitive in Rome. Little hint there perhaps
I Am Finnish
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@vive le beau jeu ! nowhere to been seen
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