ATP 500 China Open - Beijing, China - 2016.10.03 - 2016.10.09

Who do you think is most likely to win the title?

  • Andy Murray

    Votes: 7 46.7%
  • Rafael Nadal

    Votes: 4 26.7%
  • Milos Raonic

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • John Isner

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Richard Gasquet

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Grigor Dimitrov

    Votes: 4 26.7%
  • Dominic Thiem

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • David Ferrer

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Someone else

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    15
  • Poll closed .
Looks like Djokovic has withdrawn, as he's no longer listed amongst the entrants. So, no seven-time winner there. Who will step into the breach?
 

JonnyMac

Hall of Fame
One thing - If I was stupid Murray - the last thing I'd want to do right now is fly to bloody China. And I like travel !

Any of them, all of them - They must be Knackered !

I'm exhausted just watching them ..
 

Meles

Bionic Poster
Daaaayum Thiem vs Zverev

Always heartbreaking early in the draw

@Meles
Wow. Thiem likely to go down in that one given their recent form. Reminds me of Queens where Kyrgios got Raonic first round. Too many top players at Queens and opposing ATP 500 had a weaker draw where Kyrgios would have been seeded. Sure enough, Zverev would have been seeded at Japan Open.:rolleyes:
 

Meles

Bionic Poster
Zvrv-Muzziah is in the cards. He should really do his Zebra bro a favour and give him some rest
Zverev hasn't had Murray's number lately, so hopefully Thiem wins that match. Zverev went down 6-0, 6-1 to Ferrer at Hamburg millions of years ago. Not sure that declined Ferrer will not be trouble for Z. Sock will be no joke for winner of Thiem/Zverev.
 
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Meles

Bionic Poster
Gasquet may be vulnerable after Chengdu run so chances for Querrey and Tomic and even PCB to get a shot at RaoBot. Pouille has quite the draw. Would like to see in form Gasquet come through to SF with Pouille. Dimitrov vs Pouille 2nd round would be nice.:D I'd rather see Nadal get his Pouille rematch in QF. Wonder what Nadal will do with a rested Pouille?:oops:
 

Gytha

Legend
Ooh, Thiem-Zverev 1R. Zverev has played into good form after a slump whereas Domi is looking to be running out of gas.

Nadal-Pouille rematch? I'll have some of that pls
 

Meles

Bionic Poster
Lately? When did he ever have it (given that Murray destroyed him in their only encounter)? o_O
Haha. Agree 100%; only you would find the error of my ways.

I doubt Thiem will make it, but I'd love to see him round into form for a nice match with Murray.:D
 

Meles

Bionic Poster
Ooh, Thiem-Zverev 1R. Zverev has played into good form after a slump whereas Domi is looking to be running out of gas.

Nadal-Pouille rematch? I'll have some of that pls
Stamina has been an issue in the Thiem vs Z matches this year to Zverev's detriment. That won't be an issue this time. Zverev has taken sets in every match and looks good to take 2 this time.;)
 

Meles

Bionic Poster
Ferrer - Cuevas in first round??? That makes absolutely no sense.
Heck of a first match for the tournament. Cuevas (like Zverev) would have been seeded at Japan Open. China Open's purse is twice the size so they get some good opening matches.
 

Aussie Darcy

Bionic Poster
Interesting to look at the ranking and see how close they are between number 19 and 26 in the world.

19: Cuevas- 1745 pts
20: Dimitrov- 1735 pts
21: Karlovic- 1705 pts
22: Tomic- 1680 pts
23: Johnson- 1670 pts
24: Zverev- 1655 pts
25: Sock- 1585 pts
26: Isner- 1555 pts

Just 190 points between 8 players. Insane.

Additonally this week of those players, the following are defending some points
Cuevas: 90 points
Johnson: 45 points
Sock: 90 points
Isner: 90 points (he's not playing this week so his non countable tournament moves up meaning he loses just 45 points)

So that'll cause some movement amongst those players and of course all of them (except Isner) are playing this week in Beijing except Karlovic who's in Tokyo.

For fun lets take a look at the race to London rankings. This gives us an idea of which player has more points to defend by the end of the year.

17: Cuevas- 1680 pts
18: Dimitrov- 1645 pts
20: Zverev- 1475 pts
21: Karlovic- 1470 pts
22: Tomic- 1455 pts
28: Johnson- 1230 pts
31: Isner- 1150 pts
32: Sock- 1110 pts

So we can see that Cuevas has just 65 pts to defend for the rest of the year (1745 - 1680) meanwhile Jack Sock has over 445 pts to defend! (1555 - 1110).

It'll be interesting to see where the players land at the end of the year. Imagine Isner being outside the top 30 and maybe not being seeded for the Australian Open! Crazy.
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
Very close match between Ferrer and his South American cousin Cuevas. Only one BP in 18 games and Ferrer converted it for the 6-4 4-4 lead.
 

Aussie Darcy

Bionic Poster
Cuevas falls 2 spots out of the top 20 to 21st. Many more can overtake him. Luckily he has minimal points to defend by year end so should get back to top 20.
 

Aussie Darcy

Bionic Poster
Defending doubles champ were Pospisil/Sock.
Pospisil not playing whilst Sock plays with Tomic. Odd combination considering Sock is 22nd in the world and if he chose a high ranked player he could've been seeded here, instead went with Tomic and due to Tomic being ranked 230th in the world, they weren't seeded.

Tomic/Sock won their 1R match over Begemann/Paes. Next face qualifiers Lorenzi/Pella who upset 4th seeds Huey/Mirnyi.

Good chance for Tomic to get his double rankings up. @Meles ;) Or imagine Tomic with a doubles title :eek: Haha as if :p
 

Meles

Bionic Poster
Defending doubles champ were Pospisil/Sock.
Pospisil not playing whilst Sock plays with Tomic. Odd combination considering Sock is 22nd in the world and if he chose a high ranked player he could've been seeded here, instead went with Tomic and due to Tomic being ranked 230th in the world, they weren't seeded.

Tomic/Sock won their 1R match over Begemann/Paes. Next face qualifiers Lorenzi/Pella who upset 4th seeds Huey/Mirnyi.

Good chance for Tomic to get his double rankings up. @Meles ;) Or imagine Tomic with a doubles title :eek: Haha as if :p
It seems Sock is looking for new doubles partner. Tomic could be the one!
 

jaggy

Talk Tennis Guru
Pouille getting past Dimitov/Johnson could be a task, he must be knackered too with all his play.
 

Sela

Rookie
For the record I think Pouille wins China Open.;)
He said he still thinks he has a chance to qualify for the WTF. That'd help him mightily. That'd be great but I'm not so sure he's ready to take on an in-form Andy quite yet.
 

Meles

Bionic Poster
He said he still thinks he has a chance to qualify for the WTF. That'd help him mightily. That'd be great but I'm not so sure he's ready to take on an in-form Andy quite yet.
Its good that he is thinking about making WTF. A tried and true way of beating Murray is blowing his doors off. I didn't think Pouille could light up Nadal like he did at the US Open, but that backhand. Pouille will find a way. He's improving by leaps and bounds atm. Nadal QF will be quite tasty. If Luca takes Nadal, Raonic, and Murray out this place will erupt.
Dimitrov has been in fine form lately, so that match should be a cracker too. Please Pouille this week.
 
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Meles

Bionic Poster
Pouille getting past Dimitov/Johnson could be a task, he must be knackered too with all his play.
Had the week off. He was knackered when he played Nadal at US Open after back to back 5 set matches. He's playing better now to my eyes which makes sense as he's similar level without the fatigue issues. Pouille has won his last three sets. 6-2, 6-1, 6-2. Thiem took him to TB in their first set at the Metz final, but other than that Pouille has been on a major roll. Goffin went won 7-6, 6-1 and that easily could have been 1 and 1 as Pouille was up 4-1 with triple break point on Goffin in the first.
 

Mainad

Bionic Poster
He said he still thinks he has a chance to qualify for the WTF. That'd help him mightily. That'd be great but I'm not so sure he's ready to take on an in-form Andy quite yet.
Big question is how in-form will Andy be? He's been very erratic since Rio. Has he recovered sufficiently yet?
 
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