ATP 500 - Erste Bank Open (Vienna)

Who wins in Vienna (2024)?

  • Alex de Minaur

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Frances Tiafoe

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Lorenzo Musetti

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Alexei Popyrin

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Other

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    8
  • Poll closed .
Scenes in Vienna !! Musetti breaks back deep down in 2nd set
Edit : immediately gets broken at love ....
 
Watched quite a bit Vienna this week and I like the surface speed and dimensions there. Some general observations: .......
Enjoyed your whole analysis, man - just abbreviated to avoid repetition. Agree more evidence now of serve+/volley, and greater variety of shots.

Watching a bit of this Draper / Musetti sf and almost fell off my chair in disbelief as LM broke back and then lost serve! I stopped myself though because this is of course, LM after all. Pity, because I like his game, but dude gets these mind cramps far too often.
Draper has got to get into better shape...calling medical staff out before he serves for the match...can't even get through two sets indoors without looking wasted
True, man, I thought he looked cooked in the qf, but managed to play a compelling final set against Machac. Dude did well to stay focused and take advantage of the implosions across the net by LM, and to win it in straights without the need for a tb. ADM / Khachanov likely to be more incisive than LM, so Jack will need to find those reserves of energy for the final.
 
Enjoyed your whole analysis, man - just abbreviated to avoid repetition. Agree more evidence now of serve+/volley, and greater variety of shots.

Watching a bit of this Draper / Musetti sf and almost fell off my chair in disbelief as LM broke back and then lost serve! I stopped myself though because this is of course, LM after all. Pity, because I like his game, but dude gets these mind cramps far too often.

As ‘Magic’ Musetti revels in wizardry but that takes space and time. Zverev gives you more than Draper.

In short linear power-hitter Sinner suffered against big servers counter-puncher but was excellent at taking time from the more creative characters. Musetti has been better at finding angles and solutions but can get rushed by heavy hitting. A tennis triangle of matchups so to speak.

True, man, I thought he looked cooked in the qf, but managed to play a compelling final set against Machac. Dude did well to stay focused and take advantage of the implosions across the net by LM, and to win it in straights without the need for a tb. ADM / Khachanov likely to be more incisive than LM, so Jack will need to find those reserves of energy for the final.

Late-growing Jack has been held back so much by injuries and condition that he could have very big upside in the next years. At least I expect a big improvement in match fitness, which would make him a top5 player in 2026.
 
........... A tennis triangle of matchups so to speak.

......Late-growing Jack has been held back so much by injuries and condition that he could have very big upside in the next years. At least I expect a big improvement in match fitness, which would make him a top5 player in 2026.
Fascinating how, facts aside, there is also the 'X' factor, something derived from inspiration, innate feel and creativity. Given that we discuss players and not machines, and as has been identified time and again, most players in the top bracket of the game can play very well. What separates them from great players/limits them, are small margins and, in my view, the 'X' factor, evoked consistently. Matchups / conditions and effective delivery of skills, as well as luck on the day, a cocktail that makes certainty impossible.

Yah, man - agree re: Jack. Unfortunate that some youngsters have already had to deal with injury / fitness issues, but this adversity could lead to a more focused regime and better understanding of what is required to consistently remain fit.

Who you are picking for the title tomorrow?
 
Fascinating how, facts aside, there is also the 'X' factor, something derived from inspiration, innate feel and creativity. Given that we discuss players and not machines, and as has been identified time and again, most players in the top bracket of the game can play very well. What separates them from great players/limits them, are small margins and, in my view, the 'X' factor, evoked consistently. Matchups / conditions and effective delivery of skills, as well as luck on the day, a cocktail that makes certainty impossible.

Agreed.

Yah, man - agree re: Jack. Unfortunate that some youngsters have already had to deal with injury / fitness issues, but this adversity could lead to a more focused regime and better understanding of what is required to consistently remain fit.

Who you are picking for the title tomorrow?

I would have taken Draper but I missed that they had such an early start :whistle:

Lots of people know that fitness plays a huge part in the modern game but are afterwards surprised when a former struggler makes a big performance step once he improves there…
 
..........Lots of people know that fitness plays a huge part in the modern game but are afterwards surprised when a former struggler makes a big performance step once he improves there…
True man. Seeing the potential can be a challenge if there are early exits / gaps in playing for any reason, including injury. Even players with established credentials are often taken to task if they go off form from time to time. It's rewarding though, to see the younger players find form and start winning titles, excellent by Jack to win his 2nd ATP title this year. He seemed tired in the sf, but got the job done against an in-form KK in straights.
 
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