ATP And WTA Websites Hide Discontent Over French Open Management
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vive le beau jeu !
Talk Tennis Guru
too much sun last week... that's unacceptable
Sure the positive voice is to be seen but the sites have obligations to viewers/readers to report objective news from there.
Controversial officiating - control of the audiences, line call decisions, influencing matches, questionable medical timeouts etc.
Organizational inadequacies - injuries on courts/practice courts due to hazardous layout, scheduling without considering weather conditions etc.
nighthawkrr
Professional
They have an obligation to the shareholders.
Bartelby
Bionic Poster
1. Even most of the media is unconcerned about objective news these days.
2. All-human officiating is bound to be controversial given the take-over of machines elsewhere.
3. It's an AGW-induced heat wave and everyone is in denial about that problem.
2. All-human officiating is bound to be controversial given the take-over of machines elsewhere.
3. It's an AGW-induced heat wave and everyone is in denial about that problem.
helterskelter
G.O.A.T.
too much sun last week... that's unacceptable
Not enough bovines in the tournament this year, which is also unacceptable.
vive le beau jeu !
Talk Tennis Guru
my bullometer shows perfectly acceptable values this year...
SwissMaestro81
Rookie
Let the Yankees whine....
Feels like a family of many children who are being lied to that their parents are "just fine" while they in fact are either separated or divorced. Now I am not sure whether the sport's org is the wife and investor husband or the other way around.
4UTRMoutet
Hall of Fame
"Victory belongs to the most tenacious"
Greatest quote in all of tennis alongside "god it's killing me" and "if if if"
Greatest quote in all of tennis alongside "god it's killing me" and "if if if"
"In God We Trust"
Terenigma
Talk Tennis Guru
What exactly are the shortcomings? Can you tell me what they are, what you think they should be posting about? Also don't link me anything, I want to see you write what the shortcomings are what it is you think people are referencing and talking about. Once again, No links. I want you to tell me.
Bartelby
Bionic Poster
They are some faults and double-faults of (not players) the organizers
Yes, I can tell you like I've said here
I don't want to sound snobby here but I'd suggest you follow the tennis tournament closer to find out for yourself what goes on there. Let me just say how Ruud's loss of his R16 tiebreaker setpoint and the second set is worse than unprofessional from the professional officials, and how players such as Blockx or Sonmez have got injured and had to prematurely leave for the organizers'/sponsors' issues. The suggested medical timeout from the umpire to Sinner during an unfinished game has yet been another irregularity in officiating. You could look for links to those problems yourself as there are quite a few across all kinda media but let me help you with some here;
“Casper Ruud Got Robbed” – Fans Shocked After Line Call Blow-Up, Hawkeye Controversy Vs Joao Fonseca At French Open
Casper Ruud and Joao Fonseca’s showdown witnessed controversy at the French Open court after a line call mishap that reportedly cost the Norwegian his win. Fans expressed their shock over the incident, passing supportive remarks for Ruud online.
If you don't like yahoo
French Open: What Casper Ruud had to say after disputed call costs him during Joao Fonseca match
Roland Garros organisers have been criticised for not using line technology at the French Open following a controversial moment during the Casper Ruud-Joao Fonseca match.
www.tennis365.com
Sonmez injury due to the court
Blockx injury due to the court is followed by the player's asking for financial compensation
Blockx will ask Roland Garros for financial compensation for his injury
Alexander Blockx is determined to seek justice after having to withdraw from Roland Garros 2026 due to twisting his ankle on one of the tarps that the tourname...
www.puntodebreak.com
Here is the news how Roland Garros is planning to make changes after complaints filed
Roland Garros to make change after controversial injury trend at French Open
French Open to make changes to court advertising following complaints from Britain’s Katie Boulter and Iga Swiatek
www.independent.co.uk
Unprofessional umpire offering Sinner a timeout during the unfinished game
@Terenigma there are scores of links at your fingertips to plenty of SHORTCOMINGS from the French Open 2026 but little from the ATP/WTA sites to point to the controversies and unprofessionalism of the Grand Slam tournament powers. They can't control the weather but they can work out a better scheduling or posting news (info) of events with issues.
jackson vile
G.O.A.T.
They need to give the ATP 50% of profits, but spread out so new talent can emerge.
If WTA wants the money they’re more then welcome to try playing in ATP, otherwise I don’t want to hear about wanting more pay for less work.
If WTA wants the money they’re more then welcome to try playing in ATP, otherwise I don’t want to hear about wanting more pay for less work.
Bartelby
Bionic Poster
You are correct. They don't get anything directly.
The revenue share in Grand Slams that are independently managed is a serious issue as players are getting in between 12% and 16% as oppose to the 22% they get out of Masters (the 1000) events that are under the ATP/WTA umbrella. I doubt the difference in the percentages of the revenue share in between the Masters and GSs does not go under the table to the ATP/WTA for ulterior motives beyond the knowledge of most people. There could be one reason why Grand Slams get away with shortcomings.
Another meddling in the results of the match; this time in quarterfinals when the rooftop closes during the match for windy conditions that persist before the match too. Organizers clearly do not follow the weather forecasts or wisdom when they should close the roof. Felix Auger Aliassime was leading his quarterfinal match as he adjusted to the weather pattern better than Cobolli. But the Canadian's focus and rhythm were interrupted and so he lost after the closure of the rooftop.
Another controversial officiating that has given a qualifier Adolfo Daniel Vallejo 65,000 dollars fine. That's half of his earnings at RG 2026. How have the officials arrived to fine the lowly player such an amount of money?
John McEnroe has said it
"This guy, he doesn't make the type of money. For this guy to walk out, he's obviously stupid, but that is a big-time fine. It's his second language. He's not a natural English speaker. He speaks Spanish. You've got to cut the guy a little slack," McEnroe said during the TNT Sports coverage.
www.yahoo.com
John McEnroe has said it
"This guy, he doesn't make the type of money. For this guy to walk out, he's obviously stupid, but that is a big-time fine. It's his second language. He's not a natural English speaker. He speaks Spanish. You've got to cut the guy a little slack," McEnroe said during the TNT Sports coverage.
John McEnroe Draws Naomi Osaka Comparison as He Slams ‘Absurd’ $65K French Open Fine for ATP Pro
When Adolfo Daniel Vallejo made his first-ever appearance at the French Open‘s main draw, he didn’t predict being at the center of a major controversy. However, that is exactly how things transpired for the Paraguayan as he was fined $65,000 for making inappropriate remarks towards the chair...
Bartelby
Bionic Poster
It often seems that fines are a way of clawing back prize money.
Another controversial officiating that has given a qualifier Adolfo Daniel Vallejo 65,000 dollars fine. That's half of his earnings at RG 2026. How have the officials arrived to fine the lowly player such an amount of money?
John McEnroe has said it
"This guy, he doesn't make the type of money. For this guy to walk out, he's obviously stupid, but that is a big-time fine. It's his second language. He's not a natural English speaker. He speaks Spanish. You've got to cut the guy a little slack," McEnroe said during the TNT Sports coverage.
John McEnroe Draws Naomi Osaka Comparison as He Slams ‘Absurd’ $65K French Open Fine for ATP Pro
When Adolfo Daniel Vallejo made his first-ever appearance at the French Open‘s main draw, he didn’t predict being at the center of a major controversy. However, that is exactly how things transpired for the Paraguayan as he was fined $65,000 for making inappropriate remarks towards the chair...
Better_Call_Raul
Legend
Mac is suggesting that the fine be proportionate to the player's prize earnings/wealth.
“$65,000 to say something asinine. That seems absurd! I can see $5,000, maybe $10,000. But this guy doesn’t make the type of money that Naomi Osaka does,”
There is a reason why McEnroe feels that such a massive fine makes no sense. For context,
Serena Williams was fined $17,000 after she had accused chair umpire Carlos Ramos of sexism and had also called him a “thief” during the 2018 US Open final.
Having earned a whopping $1.85M for making it to the final, Serena barely lost any money because of her outburst.
“$65,000 to say something asinine. That seems absurd! I can see $5,000, maybe $10,000. But this guy doesn’t make the type of money that Naomi Osaka does,”
There is a reason why McEnroe feels that such a massive fine makes no sense. For context,
Serena Williams was fined $17,000 after she had accused chair umpire Carlos Ramos of sexism and had also called him a “thief” during the 2018 US Open final.
Having earned a whopping $1.85M for making it to the final, Serena barely lost any money because of her outburst.
He's the right protagonist to point to the fine for he's had quite a few runs with the officials too.Mac is suggesting that the fine be proportionate to the player's prize earnings/wealth.
She's one example of a crime but there are a lot more of those. I can recall Nick Kyrgios with his numerous infractions (some serious) and none of them was given such a high honor.
I wonder where Amelie Mauresmo stands, or has stood, when those fines are given and when weather forecasters call the weather and when winds blow etc.
Better_Call_Raul
Legend
Just look at the double standard from Mauresmo and slam officials.
Serena directly insults the most respected male chair umpire in the world, Ramos.
Calls him a thief during a match and has the male umpire banned from ever working her US Open matches.
Compare and contrast with Vallejo, who said nothing to the chair umpire during the match.
Merely opined in post-match interviews that a female umpire could not handle the crowd.
And Vallejo is hit with one of the largest fines in RG history for merely voicing his opinions.
After the match, Vallejo raised questions over Carvalho’s officiating and opined that such matches should have a male umpire.
“Matches like this have to be umpired by a man; it’s very difficult for a woman to do it. It has to be umpired by a man.
Because it’s a very demanding crowd and you need a lot of strength to go against it,”
Roland Garros director Amélie Mauresmo called the comments 'unacceptable.'
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anarosevoli
Professional
It doesn't matter at all if this ball is called in or out. For such small margins a random decision is the best you can expect. 1 mm left or right wouldn't make the shot better or worse (a shot to the outside of the line is a bad shot anyway, nobody would aim there). Not even the lines are that perfect. And the electronic system also has some tolerance...
Did you see the match? Do you know which call/ball you are talking about? This really ain't bout "1 mm left or right".
The female tournament director may as well be the reason why that oversized fine of 65,000 has been given to the player. We Canadians have recently begun having issues with pronouns in some provinces which seems to be spreading to French Open office of Amerie She Mauresmo.
Drob
Hall of Fame
you mean he was fined not for behavior but for a socio-political incorrect remark? Half his earnings?Just look at the double standard from Mauresmo and slam officials.
Serena directly insults the most respected male chair umpire in the world, Ramos.
Calls him a thief during a match and has the male umpire banned from ever working her US Open matches.
Compare and contrast with Vallejo, who said nothing to the chair umpire during the match.
Merely opined in post-match interviews that a female umpire could not handle the crowd.
And Vallejo is hit with one of the largest fines in RG history for merely voicing his opinions.
After the match, Vallejo raised questions over Carvalho’s officiating and opined that such matches should have a male umpire.
“Matches like this have to be umpired by a man; it’s very difficult for a woman to do it. It has to be umpired by a man.
Because it’s a very demanding crowd and you need a lot of strength to go against it,”
Roland Garros director Amélie Mauresmo called the comments 'unacceptable.'
Bartelby
Bionic Poster
Officials change over time, you dunderhead, so you are comparing apples with oranges.
And just maybe the officials were being ironic?
What better way to show him that women are strong by whacking him with a huge fine!
And just maybe the officials were being ironic?
What better way to show him that women are strong by whacking him with a huge fine!
Just look at the double standard from Mauresmo and slam officials.
Serena directly insults the most respected male chair umpire in the world, Ramos.
Calls him a thief during a match and has the male umpire banned from ever working her US Open matches.
Compare and contrast with Vallejo, who said nothing to the chair umpire during the match.
Merely opined in post-match interviews that a female umpire could not handle the crowd.
And Vallejo is hit with one of the largest fines in RG history for merely voicing his opinions.
After the match, Vallejo raised questions over Carvalho’s officiating and opined that such matches should have a male umpire.
“Matches like this have to be umpired by a man; it’s very difficult for a woman to do it. It has to be umpired by a man.
Because it’s a very demanding crowd and you need a lot of strength to go against it,”
Roland Garros director Amélie Mauresmo called the comments 'unacceptable.'
Better_Call_Raul
Legend
We are morally compelled to correct the disinformation campaign.
There are only about 30 Gold Badge Umpires in the world and Ramos was considered one of the very best.
The final rounds of majors are exclusively umpired by these select few Gold Badge Umpires.
Prior to the ban, Ramos had umpired 10 singles major finals.
Following the ban, Ramos umpired 0 singles major finals.
We have no Horse In The Race but we take the info straight from the Horse's Mouth:
There are only about 30 Gold Badge Umpires in the world and Ramos was considered one of the very best.
The final rounds of majors are exclusively umpired by these select few Gold Badge Umpires.
Prior to the ban, Ramos had umpired 10 singles major finals.
Following the ban, Ramos umpired 0 singles major finals.
We have no Horse In The Race but we take the info straight from the Horse's Mouth:
Following the ban, Ramos never umpired a majors final.
"Scheduling without considering weather conditions." Anyone in particular they have in mind?
Bartelby
Bionic Poster
Still flogging the same horse years after the event.
We are morally compelled to correct the disinformation campaign.
There are only about 30 Gold Badge Umpires in the world and Ramos was considered one of the very best.
The final rounds of majors are exclusively umpired by these select few Gold Badge Umpires.
Prior to the ban, Ramos had umpired 10 singles major finals.
Following the ban, Ramos umpired 0 singles major finals.
We have no Horse In The Race but we take the info straight from the Horse's Mouth:
Following the ban, Ramos never umpired a majors final.
Better_Call_Raul
Legend
The event epitomizes the corruption, hypocrisy, and double standards that have yet to be addressed and fixed.
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Serena Williams: Carlos Ramos will not umpire Williams sisters at US Open
US Open umpire Carlos Ramos will not chair any matches involving Serena or Venus Williams in New York this year following last year's final.
www.bbc.com
Opinion | Martina Navratilova: What Serena Got Wrong (Published 2018)
Just because the guys might be able to get away with it doesn’t mean it’s acceptable.
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Would you close the stadium roof before the match, if the weather report of strong winds was called? Would you close the stadium roof after a badly wind affected match when another match was to be played and weather forecast called for more winds? Or, would you wait to see how much the wind affects the next match with the open roof top and close it only after the first set then? Note that I am not saying the French Open org wouldn't close the roof top if FAA lost the first set.
Amelie Mauressmo has the male player's earnings cut 50%, even though he put twice as much effort into his match as any female competitors in Roland Garros have in their half that time matches. Under such a heat, it's a double insult.
Not sure if there are rhetorical questions, but I'll answer. Unless the wind is so strong that the players would need to leave the court, wind should be regarded as something they have to deal with. The roof should remain open.
natalia
Hall of Fame
Yep - even your avatar melted!!!too much sun last week... that's unacceptable
First of, I didn't really mean to pose any "rhetorical questions" but hypothetical ones to think of those situations which I believe were the RG orgs dealing with. On the other note, I agree that the roof should have remained open not to influence the FAA match that had already been into the second set.
vive le beau jeu !
Talk Tennis Guru
@vive le beau jeu ! is that the residue from FO advertisments?
vive le beau jeu !
Talk Tennis Guru
just an old Perrier advertising campaign...
RSJfan
Legend
We are morally compelled to correct the disinformation campaign.
There are only about 30 Gold Badge Umpires in the world and Ramos was considered one of the very best.
The final rounds of majors are exclusively umpired by these select few Gold Badge Umpires.
Prior to the ban, Ramos had umpired 10 singles major finals.
Following the ban, Ramos umpired 0 singles major finals.
We have no Horse In The Race but we take the info straight from the Horse's Mouth:
Following the ban, Ramos never umpired a majors final.
natalia
Hall of Fame
Aaaaawwww….those were the days… J’adore!
I don't think "those ... days" were as chaotic as these days on RG courts that just happened.
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