ATP does not look at the interest of its players

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maxxy777

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It would be normal that their interest is to get more money and better conditions for the players.
But in case of ATP they are more then happy to hand out profits to another organisation like WTA.
Even if the profit is rightfully made with bigger generated revenue they are more then happy to
refuse benefits of it for their players.
Basically they negotiate same conditions for more popular and less popular sport.
Its not even a question for them if that is fair for players ,its just normal and something
that cant even be questioned.
THey dont even fight for their players but for increases in another organisation.
Do you know any other organisation that works in such manner.
 
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Vanhool

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First thing I think they should fight for is a heat rule. If they stood up for their players, they could get that pretty easily, like tomorrow. It's inhumane and ridiculous. It's some macho holdover from old times. Hardcourts get way hotter than the grass they used to play on and the matches also drag on much longer now. They could also negotiate to play Bof3 if that's what they want (I'm not sure if they do or not).

Of course, you're really talking about "pay." Does anyone really think ticket sales in Shanghai cover the prize money? LOL. Who is always up there handing them the check and/or trophy at the end of any tournament? The sponsor. The combined events (besides sharing operations cost) give the sponsor a unique opportunity to subtley create goodwill with female consumers (Hey ladies, come fly Emirates Air, we promise we won't make you wear a burka, we respect you and think of you as equal). It is a marketing message, and it doesn't really cost them much more to do it.

The fact is neither ATP or WTA players are paid. They technically don't "earn" anything. They are not paid by the hour or through profit sharing or gate percentage. If the male players want a bigger cut, they would be better off taking another tactic. Leave the prizemoney alone, it is a "prize" for competing. ATP players could negotiate a separate contract with their organization (for base pay or per diems or percentage of gate/TV rights, etc.). They should, and more power to them, but it is a separate issue from prize money. If you take away women's prizemoney, it just goes away. KIA or whoever will just spend that money elsewhere. Crying about the prizemoney just makes them look bad (imo) and it hasn't really accomplished anything for them.
 
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maxxy777

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First thing I think they should fight for is a heat rule. If they stood up for their players, they could get that pretty easily, like tomorrow. It's inhumane and ridiculous. It's some macho holdover from old times. Hardcourts get way hotter than the grass they used to play on and the matches also drag on much longer now. They could also negotiate to play Bof3 if that's what they want (I'm not sure if they do or not).

Of course, you're really talking about "pay." Does anyone really think ticket sales in Shanghai cover the prize money? LOL. Who is always up there handing them the check and/or trophy at the end of any tournament? The sponsor. The combined events (besides sharing operations cost) give the sponsor a unique opportunity to subtley create goodwill with female consumers (Hey ladies, come fly Emirates Air, we promise we won't make you wear a burka, we respect you and think of you as equal). It is a marketing message, and it doesn't really cost them much more to do it.

The fact is neither ATP or WTA players are paid. They technically don't "earn" anything. They are not paid by the hour or through profit sharing or gate percentage. If the male players want a bigger cut, they would be better off taking another tactic. Leave the prizemoney alone, it is a "prize" for competing. ATP players could negotiate a separate contract with their organization (for base pay or per diems or percentage of gate/TV rights, etc.). They should, and more power to them, but it is a separate issue from prize money. If you take away women's prizemoney, it just goes away. KIA or whoever will just spend that money elsewhere. Crying about the prizemoney just makes them look bad (imo) and it hasn't really accomplished anything for them.

No idea what you are talking about ATP has done nothing to get more money for the players GS show that.
 

Vanhool

Hall of Fame
No idea what you are talking about ATP has done nothing to get more money for the players GS show that.
I have no idea what you are talking about either. The sentence above doesn't make sense and your OP is rambling.
 
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